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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheilasandhu



Sorry to again differ from your POV but they did not make a choice here as they had no choice. In order to safe someones life they decide to play charades for the time being so that suicidal person's life could besaved. It was not a choice wanting to marry each other or not but it was a choice of wanting to safe a life or not. Please do not confuse the two.😊😊



If they wanted to save her life they should have taken her to a psychiatrist and told haseena to piss off.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheilasandhu


Sorry to again differ from your POV but they did not make a choice here as they had no choice. In order to safe someones life they decide to play charades for the time being so that suicidal person's life could be saved. It was not a choice wanting to marry each other or not but it was a choice of wanting to safe a life or not. Please do not confuse the two. 😊😊


Sorry to butt in...Sham it is, I agree. As you said, wht was the purpose of this charade? - To save Nikhat's life.
Now, what if Haseena Bi had been the one clicking the pics instead of Razia; what then??
Ofcourse - she would have raised a hue and cry and this would be worsening Nikhats situation. So the entire purpose is at once defeated!

If this is a charade for x number of days that Zoya and Ayaan have entered into, why not stick to it completely? Once Ayaan and Asad had made the decision to go ahead and Zoya agreed to be a sacrificial lamb till the time Nikhats wedding was over, shouldnt they stick to the decision and respect it?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90



If they wanted to save her life they should have taken her to a psychiatrist and told haseena to piss off.


Well that is where they show how regressive this show is. They could not do that cause they were worried about society. It were them who gave nikhat a physiological problem in the first place but last bit not least

THEY ARE NOT VERY SMART AND CONFIDENT people and thats why people like Haseena gets away with murder.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankita.M


EXACTLY MAN :\ there is so much moral policing. But what about the fact that this entire marriage is a put up, just to show the world, but the entire families know that this is only a fake marriage. Signing papers does not change the truth. Fine they're married on paper, but that doesn't take away from the fact that neither of the people involved in this decision ever wanted this to happen at all. In a real situation also , if anyone of us would make such a decision to pretend a marriage and even go through it temporarily, me going and meeting my loved one wouldn't kill my conscience when everyone knows my relation with him.


I agree with every word. Moral policing on not so logical grounds is a joke. Zoya and Ayaan didn't chose this Nikah but it was FORCED and not given a choice.
Zoya and Ayaan signed up for drama and they will keep it for 7 days or whatever period but they didnt sign up for killing their feelings for their real love and to not meet them in private, therefore, morals or ethics don't come in to picture here. As far as they are doing it in private they can interact with their loved one while the Nikah drama is still on.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well said👏
I agree with u...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheilasandhu



Well that is where they show how regressive this show is. They could not do that cause they were worried about society. It were them who gave nikhat aphysiological problem in the first place but last bit not least

THEY ARE NOT VERY SMART AND CONFIDENT people and thats why people like Haseena gets away with murder.



I agree they are idiots - so I ask the question - why are we as an audience justifying bad behavior/stupidity etc?

Admit the characters are grey and call them out on inappropriate behavior. (General statement not specifically at anyone)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely agree !
I don't get what adultery and infidelity is there when both ayaan and zoe don't consider it a marriage only
Infidelity happens when you respect your marriage with the other person
But in this case they are already planning to leave after 1 week then how does the question arises of adultery and infidelity
People on this forum just love to bash sometimes without thinking much 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hsvs


Sorry to butt in...Sham it is, I agree. As you said, wht was the purpose of this charade? - To save Nikhat's life.
Now, what if Haseena Bi had been the one clicking the pics instead of Razia; what then??
Ofcourse - she would have raised a hue and cry and this would be worsening Nikhats situation. So the entire purpose is at once defeated!

If this is a charade for x number of days that Zoya and Ayaan have entered into, why not stick to it completely? Once Ayaan and Asad had made the decision to go ahead and Zoya agreed to be a sacrificial lamb till the time Nikhats wedding was over, shouldnt they stick to the decision and respect it?


If you noticed that meetings were not planned by the parties. Each their own Asad and Ayaan were hoping that they would be able to meet their Loves. And anyways what is wrong with meeting to explain the situation and keep the gals calm before more destruction. Women can be destructive when unsure and confused. So whats wrong with intending to keep the situation calm.

Anyways Infidelity and adultery does not play in this scenario at all. Not that the were humping their woman, just giving an ensuring hug.

We do that to our friends be it male or female when they are in pain and in need of moral streght. Does that mean i have done adultery since i am married. OH BOY ... i shall refrain from my next comment as it may hurt the sentiments of many. Darling i am 49 and been married 21 yrs, Been there, done that, seen that kind of scenarios.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As long as Ayaan and Zoya do not lead each other on emotionally and Zoya does not spout that Ta-umra shit to Ayaan and starts working on this marriage...it's cool...but if u honestly ask me...the writers are half a dozen shots down because they cannot decide whether marriage means so much to Zoya or does not mean so much to Zoya...crap track
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90



Being forced is a ridiculous way of looking at it because nobody forced Ayaan to agree to this mess. He made the decision himself - seeing the state of his idiotic and suicidal sister. Instead of getting her help and telling Haseena to jump he made the decision to claim zoya as his wife.

Asad in turn made the decision to hand his fianc over to Ayaan and zoya made the decision not to walk away from the situation. In fact nothing stopped her from walking. She is an American citizen and she could have happily told everyone to Fo and walked but she didn't.

Now that they signed the papers, for whatever reason, it needs to be respected. All characters have acknowledged zoya as ayaans wife - especially asad who used "ayaans biwi" to stop dilshaad from getting zoya back. Zoya herself acknowledged the marriage by yelling at Ayaan for making marriage into a joke. It has been acknowledged. So, until Gul has one of her characters identify the marriage as invalid - all four of them are committing infidelity.

On a separate issue - zoya melting into asads arms after be literally bartered her life for his sister's is disgusting too. Where did progressive and modern zoya go? This sure as hell isn't her and where is the asad who got mad at dilshaad for meeting rashid.

Just a question - I am curious - if imran has married Nikhat and not believed it to be a real wedding or marriage had gone and met another woman he loved, would you call him a cheat? Genuine question.


Every situation is different, and hence every rule for it is different as well. Rashid for whatever reasons had without informing left Dilshad and not looked back for 17 years. But here Asad Zoya and Ayaan have only gotten into this situation forcefully. We've had too many discussions on the right and wrong, so won't even go there BUT All three of them have gotten into this to save a situation which according to them had no escape. Asad took Zoya there only because Ayaan and Zoya had accidentally had a nikaah, he had taken her to bring her back, the situation twisted and they had to take extreme decisions then, same goes for Ayaan. And as for Zoya whether she did or did not run away was her decision at the end of the day, but from day 1 they have only intended to keep up with this decision till the end of Nikhat's ceremony. They regret having to have signed the papers, which were only a formality NOT REAL for them.

You're just going out of the way to stand up for morals here, when that is not even the question. The point is that their love for the others is not hidden from anyone and nor is the fact about how fake this marriage is, hence if they do go meet their respective partners I do not see anything to be questioned in it.

As for Imran, if he would willingly go through EVERY ritual of a marriage and not speak a word through it and then go out to another woman I would call it cheating, but if his marriage happened in situations such as these and was intended to be broken in 7 days like it didn't exist, I wouldn't.

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