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sheilasandhu

@sheilasandhu

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: delena90

I agree they are idiots - so I ask the question - why are we as an audience justifying bad behavior/stupidity etc?

Admit the characters are grey and call them out on inappropriate behavior. (General statement not specifically at anyone)

Human nature sweetheart. Entertainment, Entertainment and Entertainment😆😆

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delena90

@delena90

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: sheilasandhu

If you noticed that meetings were not planned by the parties. Each their own Asad and Ayaan were hoping that they would be able to meet their Loves. And anyways what is wrong with meeting to explain the situation and keep the gals calm before more destruction. Women can be destructive when unsure andconfused. So whats wrong with intending to keep the situation calm.

Anyways Infidelity and adultery does not play in this scenario at all. Not that the were humping their woman, just giving an ensuring hug.

We do that to our friends be it male or female when they are in pain and in need of moral streght. Does that mean i have done adultery since i am married. OH BOY ... i shall refrain from my next comment as it may hurt the sentiments of many. Darling i am 49 and been married 21 yrs, Been there, done that, seen that kind of scenarios.

Don't make the mistake of assuming you are the only adult here in an adult relationship 😊

As for hugging male friends - who is saying that is a problem? However meeting an ex-flame / lover while married who you may still be in love with that sure as hell is wrong.

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes
As long as Ayaan and Zoya do not lead each other on emotionally and Zoya does not spout that Ta-umra shit to Ayaan and starts working on this marriage...it's cool...but if u honestly ask me...the writers are half a dozen shots down because they cannot decide whether marriage means so much to Zoya or does not mean so much to Zoya...crap track

The track is crap. BUT ATM none are even working on this marriage, they're intending to get away from this boundation in 7 days and do not consider it a marriage, hence I do not see this as unethical 😊 It would be if they had decided to move on with life and forget their partners, or decided to have it for keeps

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Maya786

@Maya786

Beginner

Posted: 12 years ago

#24

I agree with you Ankita.

Whatever is being shown in the show between both couples does not amount to adultery or infidelity.

The nikah was invalid to begin with and signing the nikahnama does not make it valid.

I guess Gul has made this track way too complicated.

If there was no signing of the nikahnama and , Zoya was forced to stay at the SM after the invalid nikah at the community wedding, then the nikah was definitely invalid. ASYA or Arya hugging and meeting one another would have been absolutely fine but since the nikahnama drama has been added, it has made the audience confused.

Some sections of the audience (the older generation in particular) will believe that the nikah is valid because zoyaan have signed on the nikahnama but others who have a much deeper and broader thinking will still see this as invalid.

Both Ayan and Zoya were in such an appalling state whilst signing the nikahnama that it clearly looked forced and unwilling. Both of them were crying and nothing was being done willingly.

Why is everyone forgetting that the Zoya being mentioned in the papers is not Zoya Farooqui but Zoya Mohammad Fareed. Zoya Farooqui does not even exist in this marriage.

Gul has purposely created this divide between the audience to make the story complicated.

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sheilasandhu

@sheilasandhu

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: delena90

Don't make the mistake of assuming you are the only adult here in an adult relationship 😊

As for hugging male friends - who is saying that is a problem? However meeting an ex-flame / lover while married who you may still be in love with that sure as hell is wrong.

Well like i said they were not romping and humping each other. It was just to give assurance since everything happened so fast and time to explain or sort out their thoughts was not there.

Well you POV differs from mine and i should leave it as that.

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: MisZoobieDoobie
I completely agree !
I don't get what adultery and infidelity is there when both ayaan and zoe don't consider it a marriage only
Infidelity happens when you respect your marriage with the other person
But in this case they are already planning to leave after 1 week then how does the question arises of adultery and infidelity
People on this forum just love to bash sometimes without thinking much 😆

I agree LOL its just hilarious how even when there is no such scene, people keep mentioning such heavy duty terms as if they just wait for some opportunity to moral police, whether the situation even demands it or not.

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starsinmyeyes

@starsinmyeyes

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: Ankita.M

The track is crap. BUT ATM none are even working on this marriage, they're intending to get away from this boundation in 7 days and do not consider it a marriage, hence I do not see this as unethical 😊 It would be if they had decided to move on with life and forget their partners, or decided to have it for keeps

If I can put it in better words if loaning and forceful marriages were lapped up as good drama..I personally do not see this as adultery (which is having sex outside your marriage) or infidelity( cheating on your partner who trusts you)...since neither is the case here...neither of the terms can be used..it's no big deal if loaning fiancees is drama...this is drama too...that was cheap drama and it's given rise to more cheap drama...when the foundation had no morality, the structure cannot possibly have it...so if I am ok with what happened during the forced marriage, I should have no problem with this too...that was much worse on moral grounds

P.S: I do not watch shit hai😆

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Maya786
I agree with you Ankita.

Whatever is being shown in the show between both couples does not amount to adultery or infidelity.

The nikah was invalid to begin with and signing the nikahnama does not make it valid.

I guess Gul has made this track way too complicated.

If there was no signing of the nikahnama and , Zoya was forced to stay at the SM after the invalid nikah at the community wedding, then the nikah was definitely invalid. ASYA or Arya hugging and meeting one another would have been absolutely fine but since the nikahnama drama has been added, it has made the audience confused.

Some sections of the audience (the older generation in particular) will believe that the nikah is valid because zoyaan have signed on the nikahnama but others who have a much deeper and broader thinking will still see this as invalid.

Both Ayan and Zoya were in such an appalling state whilst signing the nikahnama that it clearly looked forced and unwilling. Both of them were crying and nothing was being done willingly.

Why is everyone forgetting that the Zoya being mentioned in the papers is not Zoya Farooqui but Zoya Mohammad Fareed. Zoya Farooqui does not even exist in this marriage.

Gul has purposely created this divide between the audience to make the story complicated.

My own grandmom watches this show with me, and this is her view too,that the marriage is a sham and pretense and means nothing, which has been made clear. None of them involved take it as real, and they intend to solve this situation asap. When someone who is as elderly as her does not go down to scrutinize it on levels of morals I think there is nothing left to say then 😆

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#29

You are right! At face value there is no infidelity nor is their adultery etc.

But the other side of the coin is that Ayaan and Zoya have agreed to carry on a farce of a marriage. The marriage vows may not be real to them, but after signing the Nikanama the marriage appears real, at least temporarily.

The issue of them meeting and continuing to carry on interactions and romantic exchanges with their respective love interests is that the "appearance" of their so called marriage is compromised by this. If you agreed to pretend to be married, then you have to carry on that pretence of a real marriage too. This includes not getting romantic with your ex.

Please don't get me wrong I don't think it's infidelity. But I think its asking for trouble!! The kind of trouble neither Zoya nor Ayaan needs right now, with people like Haseena swooping down like vultures on anything they can find!!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 12 years ago

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

If I can put it in better words if loaning and forceful marriages were lapped up as good drama..I personally do not see this as adultery (which is having sex outside your marriage) or infidelity( cheating on your partner who trusts you)...since neither is the case here...neither of the terms can be used..it's no big deal if loaning fiancees is drama...this is drama too...that was cheap drama and it's given rise to more cheap drama...when the foundation had no morality, the structure cannot possibly have it...so if I am ok with what happened during the forced marriage, I should have no problem with this too...that was much worse on moral grounds

P.S: I do not watch shit hai😆

Exactly jab the foundation of the entire marriage means nothing, and is as close to null and void then their meeting their partners is excusable and cannot be termed as such heavy duty crimes 😆

I can't believe we'd have to see this day with QH. I don't understand why this Zoya Ayaan track had to be gotten in this way TBH.