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Posted: 11 years ago
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I normally don't make topics because its hard to sustain a topic without getting into squabbles 😆 and lately the show's not been having matter that I can really talk about.. But there is one thing I keep reading about and I cannot relate to that point of view at all.
In the show, all the three protagonists. Asad,Zoya and Ayaan have gotten into a situation which is only a compromise or rather sacrifice for all three. They have done what they have for Nikhat and not out of their own will. Ayaan and Zoya went ahead and got married accidentally which was the root issue of the the whole mess. Asad and Ayaan further took a decision (which can be right and wrong , depends on POV's) but none of them believe this marriage is true and for keeps. This is a temporary alliance. Then why do words like infidelity and adultery come into play here? A marriage is not just a marriage on paper,it is a marriage if its believed by the two people, but when the marriage here doesn't hold any meaning at all and is with an intention of being called off ..then why is there a problem if Ayaan and Humaira interact or Asad and Zoya do.

We're in a day and age where neither of us girls would agree with carrying on a marriage like this which holds no meaning. In reality of course the situation like this wouldn't arise, but if hypothetically we would take such decisions and make such a sacrifice knowing it is temporary, would terms like infidelity and adultery even come into our mind.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with your post!
There cant be any infidelity or adultery because all of them know that the marriage is invalid. They are putting up a show in front of the society & nothing else.
And you have said it all I have nothing more to add. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well said...and I also feel there is no wrong in AsYa and AyRa meeting bcoz Asad,Zoya and Ayan nvr considered it as a marriage...It was an accident and they dint say quboolhai in the real senses.AsYa and AyRa are made for each other.⭐️Marriage is not signing of papers...(even that is invalid here).As Zoya said ye ek vaada hai jo dil se nibhayi jaati hai...Jab tak shaadi ko dil se nahi maana jaata hai,uska koi matlab hi nahi hai.Although nothing of this sought happens in real life,still there is no wrong in AsYa and AyRa meeting each other...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Not that a situation like this would ever occur in real life but if you are married and you are engaging in such behavior it is in fact infidelity. If you don't love the person or don't care for the person you are married to then dump him and do what you will with your life. But if at the end of the day you made the choice to marry someone then respect it.

If people are so modern and progressive there is such a thing as being ethical and of course the inability to force you to do something.

In case of our story - Ayaan made the choice to claim zoya as his wife. His own choice. Zoya made the choice to not walk out and go back to NY so again her choice. Now that they have made it they need to respect it for whatever time frame they are bound in it. Or are they so pathetic and weak that they cant maintain a respectable distance for the so called seven days????
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You are bang on with this post.
I too saw posts on adultery and it made me laugh. Sometimes people make issue out of nothing. There is absolutely no need for Zoya or Ayaan to restrain themselves from meeting their loved ones in private as they are doing this Nikah drama for public and they don't need to live the drama when they are alone. This Nikah is invalid to begin with but even if we assume that the nikah was performed in accordance with Nikah rules, the main concept consent is missing.

Paper work and signature etc are just formalities but here both bride and groom do not consider it as Nikah and thats the key. They are not obligated to respect this Nikah because this was forced on them against their will by ignorant and arrogant maulvi team and sadistic Haseena, which resulted in Nikat's sensitive state of mind. This drama is only a temporary arrangement to shut mouths of such public, who may indirectly drive Nikat who is not currently stable to death. All trio care about is to buy sometime to get Nikat out of her sensitive state of mind. Although there could be better ways to address this issue, they took path of drama and it will continue to be a drama for them, they don't need to live the drama when they are not in public eye.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90

Not that a situation like this would ever occur in real life but if you are married and you are engaging in such behavior it is in fact infidelity. If you don't love the person or don't care for the person you are married to then dump him and do what you will with your life. But if at the end of the day you made the choice to marry someone then respect it.

If people are so modern and progressive there is such a thing as being ethical and of course the inability to force you to do something.

In case of our story - Ayaan made the choice to claim zoya as his wife. His own choice. Zoya made the choice to not walk out and go back to NY so again her choice. Now that they have made it they need to respect it for whatever time frame they are bound in it. Or are they so pathetic and weak that they cant maintain a respectable distance for the so called seven days????


Like I said, this decision is nothing short of pretending to be married, they've signed those papers because they were forced to. NONE of them want it, even if they've signed it. If they had a choice of dumping and walking away the marriage wouldn't have happened at all. Unethical would be if no one knew Asad and Zoya were to get married, or loved each other, same goes for Ayaan and Humaira. Everyone only did this for Nikhat,s well being and to secure her life (of course that was silly)

Why should they not meet or talk or so on in the seven days, neither does the marriage mean anything NOW nor will it later when they part after 7 days. It is a sham and will be.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Go4welkin

You are bang on with this post.

I too saw posts on adultery and it made me laugh. Sometimes people make issue out of nothing. There is absolutely no need for Zoya or Ayaan to restrain themselves from meeting their loved ones in private as they are doing this Nikah drama for public and they don't need to live the drama when they are alone. This Nikah is invalid to begin with but even if we assume that the nikah was performed in accordance with Nikah rules, the main concept consent is missing.

Paper work and signature etc are just formalities but here both bride and groom do not consider it as Nikah and thats the key. They are not obligated to respect this Nikah because this was forced on them against their will by ignorant and arrogant maulvi team and sadistic Haseena, which resulted in Nikat's sensitive state of mind. This drama is only a temporary arrangement to shut mouths of such public, who may indirectly drive Nikat who is not currently stable to death. All trio care about is to buy sometime to get Nikat out of her sensitive state of mind. Although there could be better ways to address this issue, they took path of drama and it will continue to be a drama for them, they don't need to live the drama when they are not in public eye.



EXACTLY MAN :\ there is so much moral policing. But what about the fact that this entire marriage is a put up, just to show the world, but the entire families know that this is only a fake marriage. Signing papers does not change the truth. Fine they're married on paper, but that doesn't take away from the fact that neither of the people involved in this decision ever wanted this to happen at all. In a real situation also , if anyone of us would make such a decision to pretend a marriage and even go through it temporarily, me going and meeting my loved one wouldn't kill my conscience when everyone knows my relation with him.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90

Not that a situation like this would ever occur in real life but if you are married and you are engaging in such behavior it is in fact infidelity. If you don't love the person or don't care for the person you are married to then dump him and do what you will with your life. But if at the end of the day you made the choice to marry someone then respect it.

If people are so modern and progressive there is such a thing as being ethical and of course the inability to force you to do something.

In case of our story - Ayaan made the choice to claim zoya as his wife. His own choice. Zoya made the choice to not walk out and go back to NY so again her choice. Now that they have made it they need to respect it for whatever time frame they are bound in it. Or are they so pathetic and weak that they cant maintain a respectable distance for the so called seven days????


Sorry to again differ from your POV but they did not make a choice here as they had no choice. In order to safe someones life they decide to play charades for the time being so that suicidal person's life could be saved. It was not a choice wanting to marry each other or not but it was a choice of wanting to safe a life or not. Please do not confuse the two. 😊😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: manognasai

Well said...and I also feel there is no wrong in AsYa and AyRa meeting bcoz Asad,Zoya and Ayan nvr considered it as a marriage...It was an accident and they dint say quboolhai in the real senses.AsYa and AyRa are made for each other.⭐️Marriage is not signing of papers...(even that is invalid here).As Zoya said ye ek vaada hai jo dil se nibhayi jaati hai...Jab tak shaadi ko dil se nahi maana jaata hai,uska koi matlab hi nahi hai.Although nothing of this sought happens in real life,still there is no wrong in AsYa and AyRa meeting each other...


Thanks :)

I agree, when the marriage is nothing but a temporary pre decided contract or plan for a while, it means nothing. A marriage is honestly only legal when it happens with the will of the people involved in it. When it is done in order to be broken, what marriage and what morals at all :\
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankita.M



Like I said, this decision is nothing short of pretending to be married, they've signed those papers because they were forced to. NONE of them want it, even if they've signed it. If they had a choice of dumping and walking away the marriage wouldn't have happened at all. Unethical would be if no one knew Asad and Zoya were to get married, or loved each other, same goes for Ayaan and Humaira. Everyone only did this for Nikhat,s well being and to secure her life (of course that was silly)

Why should they not meet or talk or so on in the seven days, neither does the marriage mean anything NOW nor will it later when they part after 7 days. It is a sham and will be.



Being forced is a ridiculous way of looking at it because nobody forced Ayaan to agree to this mess. He made the decision himself - seeing the state of his idiotic and suicidal sister. Instead of getting her help and telling Haseena to jump he made the decision to claim zoya as his wife.

Asad in turn made the decision to hand his fianc over to Ayaan and zoya made the decision not to walk away from the situation. In fact nothing stopped her from walking. She is an American citizen and she could have happily told everyone to Fo and walked but she didn't.

Now that they signed the papers, for whatever reason, it needs to be respected. All characters have acknowledged zoya as ayaans wife - especially asad who used "ayaans biwi" to stop dilshaad from getting zoya back. Zoya herself acknowledged the marriage by yelling at Ayaan for making marriage into a joke. It has been acknowledged. So, until Gul has one of her characters identify the marriage as invalid - all four of them are committing infidelity.

On a separate issue - zoya melting into asads arms after be literally bartered her life for his sister's is disgusting too. Where did progressive and modern zoya go? This sure as hell isn't her and where is the asad who got mad at dilshaad for meeting rashid.

Just a question - I am curious - if imran has married Nikhat and not believed it to be a real wedding or marriage had gone and met another woman he loved, would you call him a cheat? Genuine question.

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