12/4 Dragon Club:Silence of AarYa finally breaks - Page 30

@Samana, yes I absolutely could wrap my head around your thoughts. 😃 But I have to come back to it, to contribute to that absolutely fantastic thought of Aarti intruding between Yash and Arpita.

Originally posted by: jikky_84

@Samana,

True, I also felt that its Arpita who is always leading him to Arati from his past, may it be in the temple or yesterday. So, may be its that Arpita also loved him dearly so she wants him to be happy on his present life with Arati, his soulmate.

That is definitely the filmy way to look at it! 😆 KKHH anyone?

But if we take a more clinical approach, since "Arpita" is basically only in his head after she died, and all his "answers" from her were really mere conjectures on his part, it could also be his own mind encouraging him to let go of the sadness and the weight of Arpita's tragedy. He is resisting what is healthy and natural and resisting time when it is trying to heal his wounds. So I think what we and he corporealise as Arpita, could merely be Yash's own subconscious giving him the message to move on and embrace the present.

@Samana,

Yes, its his own thoughts, not Arpita….😆, I just put that in the filimy way and you caught that😆 not done

But I guess, he is happy in the past, so he is reluctant to leave those happy moments because when he comes back to present, there is nothing to be happy about, he is just alone. Now when Arati is there, she will bring that smile in his face which will make him happy and give him the courage to live in the present because for the first time he will feel that the present is more beautiful than past

@Maham: Awesome take there. 👏 "Yashji, thode alag hain." Right pal, that clinches the issue. The protective mode has been switched on this side as well...she wants to take Mansi's class and clear Yash's name asap now. There's no way she will allow her best friend to badmouth her husband after this.

SBS segment GC and KS hosting Tana Premier league - Saas Bahu Tanas will give update on the main forum too. GC was so funny.

@Indu: Oh I agree completely! He has definitely not thought of comparing Aarti and Arpita, partly because Arpita is the proverbial cheese that stands alone. She is literally "beyond" compare for Yash because as she says in her dialogue in the fb, no matter who he is with he is going to miss her so what is the point in comparing? But the bright side of this is that he likes and respects Aarti, Arpita aside and trusts her with the most precious things in his life, Arpita's identity (because of the kangan) and his children (because he has seen her in action!). She has already proved herself to him on both counts.

So it made me think if the flashback is not just making him guilty from the Arpita angle but also from the Aarti angle because "no matter who he is with he will miss Arpita". I might be dreaming here, but I feel like he almost regrets not being able to love Aarti for all her virtues, guilty for being forced into this marriage where he thinks he has nothing to give. Poor kid.

@Jikky: Sorry! 😃 But I love filmy so don't think it was in any way bad that you pointed that out. That scene in KKHH where Rani covers his eyes and he sees Kajol is one of my faves.

But I think you are right. He never had any attractions in the present before that would make him want to come out of his past. His only connection with the present was the needs of his children because of his promise to Arpita and because that was the only happy thing about his life. However, his children have now pulled him further into the present by giving him more incentive in the form of Aarti. The past may hold more allure now, but once they start functioning as a family and well, having fun...the past won't seem like the cool place to hang out anymore!

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Yash on the other side is meeting his past, reliving the moment with Arpita when he realised that nobody would be able to take her place in his life. What was interesting about this flashback, among many other things, is the fact that it was sort of triggered by Aarti's presence. Suddenly Arpita's words had a new meaning because he did have a new partner, it was no longer abstract, even in the memory. So in the subtlest way possible, Aarti has entered his memories and his space with Arpita.

And that directly leads into his awareness of Aarti in the present. He looks at her in relation to the fb and it is then that he realises she is anxious and asks her why. This was again a change because it was not some external force, like a clap of thunder or a cough from his kid, that made him snap out of Arpita's memory but the memory itself led him towards Aarti in the present because of the suggestions it made regarding Aarti's role in his life.

What I found interesting was that in Yash's head, Arpita is talking about Aarti. I mean that is really twisted but if you can wrap your head around what I am trying to say, tell me what you think!

Samana, not ruining the magic at all! Glad you're here, we need you to be bad and be here as much as possible because once this place gets going, it gets going! 😆

Very interesting take, in fact I saw this yesterday, but I didn't have time to reply to it, so I am glad you posted it here again. I have said it before, and I'll say it again, Aarti had already started to take over Yash's thoughts. Ever since she came into his life, everything has been different for him. Whether he likes it or not, his thoughts have not been solely focused on Arpita ever since the engagement. Even when he was worried about whether Aarti will make a good mother or not or if he was doing the right thing by marrying her, she was in his thoughts, he was living in those moments, thinking about the present, about the future, something he had stopped doing ever since Arpita died. Sometimes we need a drastic change and some chaos in our lives to bring us out of a funk, because changes force our attention to be diverted, distracted, and these distractions open the doors to many new possibilities.

And I definitely agree that it was Aarti's presence after that confession that triggered that memory in him. And because that was the memory he went to, it indirectly tells us that his subconscious has started to accept Aarti as a part of his life, and so it was that guilt of somehow being unfaithful to Arpita that triggered that memory. Before today, Yash never had to worry about reminding himself that Arpita was the only woman in his life, but within minutes of Aarti crossing the threshold of this room and with everything that happened after that, he at some level realized that something had changed, and for him right now, change can be volatile to the relationship he shares with Arpita. So he immediately seeks out to remind himself that Arpita's name was the only name etched in his heart, and this reminder and guilt triggered memory is the first of many that are yet to come. The more time he starts spending with Aarti, learning about her, understanding her, the more he'll have to force these memories to stay with him. At that point when his present will be threatening to overtake his past, it will be the guilt of being "unfaithful" that will bring him back to Arpita's memories but the real meaning behind them, the obsessive attachment to them will start getting lost!

Yash needs to cling on these memories to ensure that his mind and heart doesn't waver, but what he doesn't realize is that despite it being just hours after she had officially married him, Aarti has already started to become the catalyst that triggers Arpita's memories in him. Whether it be through trying to clear her misunderstandings or hearing the kangans, Yash's road to Arpita already seems to be going through Aarti, she has already started to come first because she is right there in front of him, living, breathing, creating a havoc on his feelings. It is easy for memories especially those that are more than 3 years old to start blurring, but you can't ignore someone who is going to become a constant force in his life whether you like it or not. We already saw a drastic change today when the flashbacks were shown completely black and white, as compared to the usual ones when Arpita's outfits are colored, the clarity is already fading! Just because he said he doesn't have any expectations from Aarti as his wife doesn't mean that she isn't his wife, he can't run away from her and neither will he be able to run away from all the feelings she will start to trigger in him as time goes on. And whether he likes it or not it's going to be her presence that he feels first from now on as compared to Arpita's memories that made up his entire life before this.

Loved the point where you said that it wasn't any external force that snapped him out of his memory but rather Aarti's presence there was more than enough. You can already see what is going to start taking priority in his life because Aarti has unknowingly gained some kind of control when it comes to Arpita's memories. Even when he starts comparing Aarti to Arpita, it's not going to be him delving into the past because he feels like it, but it will be because of some action of Aarti's that forces him to remember how Arpita used to do the same thing. And there will come a time where it will take almost nothing to snap him out of his past, the durations of the memories will shorten and the intervals between them will increase, because now there are many things in the present that requires his attention and he will learn to give priority to that. He no longer has the leisure to stay in the past, his kids and Aarti won't let him and without him even knowing it, his past is finally going to find it's right place in his life.

And all this leads me to an observation about the precap for today's episode. I read a couple of takes that mentioned that Yash was angry at Aarti's actions, and I went and saw almost every version of the precap online to see what they were talking about, but from what I saw, I didn't see any anger there. He was stunned no doubt and there was a mix of surprise, confusion and shock in his eyes, but anger there was none of it. I mean this was the first time in more than 3 years that someone has probably shown this much concern for him, and it left him in a completely uncharted territory. The way Aarti took his hand with such purpose and firmness and immediately started tending to it without thinking twice about it, it triggered feelings that he hadn't felt in years. Yash emotionally died with Arpita, he has turned himself numb against all feelings of affection, care and concern because he no longer has anyone to elicit these feelings in him, so when all of sudden Aarti goes and do just that he has no idea what to think. I mean we all know what's going to happen after that, Aarti will drop his hand and apologize again and he will walk away, but those feelings that were reawakened in those couple of seconds, those are going to stay with Yash, meaning that from now he'll be creating memories of Aarti that he will find himself going back to from time to time.

This started as something and went on to become something totally different, once again extremely scattered and all over the place, but I hope you found some sort of a lucid opinion in it 😆

Okay Samana, here is my 2 cents. A warning- you may have to take some pain killers for the headache that might develop after reading this.

I find something very unrealistic about Yash and Arpita's relationship. I am not sure what it is but there is something. Maybe future episodes will give me more hints.

But coming back to your thoughts, the way I look at it is that Yash's mind is like an early foggy morning where you see layers of mist surrounding you and at one end is the dreamy life he built with Arpita. Until Aarti came into his life there really was nothing at the other end.

Based on my interpretation that Yash and Aarti are true soul mates, I feel since Aarti came into Yash's life, she calls him to the other side of the mist. The other side that is based on reality. A reality that is a life and love that he can share with her, Aarti, and not a dream. I feel since Aarti came into his life, most of his dreams about Arpita is in connection with something that happened with Aarti. His rain apology to Arpita was after Aarti' soul called out to him when he saw her with Ansh. Then the dream with Arpita and her Kangan was again indirectly because of Aarti. The dream in the kitchen with Aarpita was after Bua put seeds of doubt in his mind about Aarti's maternal instincts. Yet, yesterday was the first time when Aarti herself or her physical presence brought him back to reality.

The way I look at it is its a way of two souls destined to be together finding each other. In this sense I feel Yash's soul is more 'lost' than Aarti's. Yash's soul is still traveling through the mist grieving for a loss but wanting something more tangible and maybe it is because he had a positive relationship with Arpita. Where as Aarti's soul has already done her share of traveling, maybe because of her negative relationship with Prashant. She now silently waits for Yash to join her, pulling him gently away from the dream that was Arpita to the reality that is her, Aarti. And I thought yesterday's scene where Yash slowly turns to Aarti without any other external force (like the Payal coughing) was just that him turning towards reality both figuratively and literally.

I know you said something to the effect that Aarti was already in Arpita and Yash's space. That is so true when you think logically. But since I am not the most logically thinking person here, I see it as Arpita has always intruded on Yash and Aarti's space at a soul level. 😃

Allright, i think I seriously need to get my head checked. 😕 And don't worry if you couldn't understand head or tails of what I was trying to say. 😆

@Maham, Indu, Jikky all your interpretations sound so much more logical. 😆 I just read them. 😆

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Indu: Oh I agree completely! He has definitely not thought of comparing Aarti and Arpita, partly because Arpita is the proverbial cheese that stands alone. She is literally "beyond" compare for Yash because as she says in her dialogue in the fb, no matter who he is with he is going to miss her so what is the point in comparing? But the bright side of this is that he likes and respects Aarti, Arpita aside and trusts her with the most precious things in his life, Arpita's identity (because of the kangan) and his children (because he has seen her in action!). She has already proved herself to him on both counts.

So it made me think if the flashback is not just making him guilty from the Arpita angle but also from the Aarti angle because "no matter who he is with he will miss Arpita". I might be dreaming here, but I feel like he almost regrets not being able to love Aarti for all her virtues, guilty for being forced into this marriage where he thinks he has nothing to give. Poor kid.