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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: saavie

so what do you want her to do that she should sleep with him without having any feeling for him?.....I know that sex is an important aspect of any marriage but why do you forget that this is not an ordinary marriage.......so it will take some time to make the things clear......and remember one thing too , mutual understanding plays an imp role in any marriage.....but one can not expect any sort of understanding from krish side I am not blaming him but his belief system is like that ....It's really hard task to change anyone's belief system.....I think that this shock through which he is passing is a good remedy to change his belief system. "That aurat is a pair ki jooti....". Though he needs some love also side by.....u said that without sex marriage fails then why krish wants to continue this marriage , why he don't let it failed? why he is not ready to take divorce when his needs are not fulfilling ? why again he is forcing prati to come along with him ? why don't he remarry with other girl? has pratigya stopped him to do so?no.....na else she will be happy to see him like that....as she has already mentioned that this marriage has no meaning for her ......so ask krish to divorce her as this is a good alternate for both of them.....krish sexual desire will be fulfilled and prati will also get rid of him......and there is nothing wrong in it instead keep on dragging the meaningless marriage.....

Two things that u said .............'it takes time ' and ' mutual understanding' ......................R CLOSED FROM PRATIGYA"S SIDE .

She has said this situation is FOREVER . And MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING is ZERO from her side due to BLIND ANGER . Her punishment to him is I will stay in this marraige and give u NO SUKH no happiness personally . So qustion of time and mutual understanding with this lady does nOT ARISE .

If she tells anyone of this predicament .........first question any sensible person will ask her is itill when will this continue ....how long , how far , how much . She has NO concrete plan , no time limit and NO understanding of the situation her husband was born in inspite of observing the circumstances that he grew up in at VERY close quarters . Half her anger shud have evaporated by now just by watching SAjjan Singh and his talks . What else cud Krishna have become , shud have been her thought .............instead she tells him Pehle Dhang se baat karna seekho . Arre how will he do that ...........see how his dad talks .He grew up on that dad's lap learning that talk . But You and ur love , ur educated efforts can make a difference . R u [ Prats] doing it ? No na ? Just wearing lovely saris , frowning and blaming him endlessly ............what is she gonna achieve ? Just see how stupid it even sounds to the ears .

He says things like Aurat is Pair ki jooti .............but we see him behaving differently . In reality we see him trying to please her in his clumsy way . His Dad does not do it , nor does his bro .They r the real chauvinists............the hard core ones who REALLY PRACTISE WHAT THEY PREACH . But Krishna.........although he says those things like a parrot by hearing this day and night from his Dad , feels something else , and acts something else when he is in front of her . He went to see her at night egolessly simply to look at her and be with her . The truth is he does not let ego come between him and her although he says those silly statements ............he told his friend I have no problems placating her anger , she is my wife . Is this how SS or Shakti wud act ?

His struggle to keep up chauvinistic appearances before his blood family and being his true self ..........egolessly loving her goes unnoticed by her inspite of her education . Her Education has given her ZERO sensitivity as a woman .

What u said about divorce is so true .Only thing is I feel Pratigya shud be the one filing for divorce , not Krishna as he is very clear in his mind that he wants her .She is the confused one.........she doesnt want him very obviously and yet she is in this marraige ..........so instead of wasting time and saying SS shud come , say sorry , THEN ill go , sraightaway she shud tell her Dad I WONT GO PERIOD and file for divorce . Why stay in the meaningless marraige she conocted with her sabak seekhana plan which seems to be ENDLESS .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago

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saavie

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Posted: 15 years ago

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so according to you Krishna understand pratigya well.... waaaah what an understanding👏👏👏I think there is no understanding from anyone......this marriage is a result of Krishna's obsession for her otherwise this marriage will not ever exist.....what you are not understanding that prati needs time and she is not God if she is an educated girl as education has no concern with someone's emotions and I just want to tell you one thing if u say that an educated person can make the marriage alright then you are wrong ....... In India earlier when girls were not suppose to have good education the percentage of divorces were almost negligible ....reason the girls behaviour was like Kesar .....but now as the girls are being educated rapidly , one can see divorce cases in next two or three houses , percentage has increased because man thinks that this is the man dominated society until now .... but woman being educated now just can not take it easily and she fights for her rights and exploitation......anyways leave that , I think you mentioned right that this is the revenge from pratigya's side as she still thinks that he kidnapped her .....and beat nitin . so may be this is her way to take revenge from him and she wanted to take revenge from him so she hardly cares for him and for other members she is normal and neutral, no feeling of revenge....and for Kesar she is a good human being and nothing else....but I feel that now as the truth will be revealed then it will make pratigya's heart soften and then kriya love story will move on.....so cheers dear , nice debate with you ....but don't blame prati that she has stone heart , she has a good heart but that mind and heart are full of misunderstandings.......think from Prati pov too......

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: saavie
@ koolsadhu

so according to you Krishna understand pratigya well.... waaaah what an understanding👏👏👏I think there is no understanding from anyone......this marriage is a result of Krishna's obsession for her otherwise this marriage will not ever exist.....what you are not understanding that prati needs time and she is not God if she is an educated girl as education has no concern with someone's emotions and I just want to tell you one thing if u say that an educated person can make the marriage alright then you are wrong ....... In India earlier when girls were not suppose to have good education the percentage of divorces were almost negligible ....reason the girls behaviour was like Kesar .....but now as the girls are being educated rapidly , one can see divorce cases in next two or three houses , percentage has increased because man thinks that this is the man dominated society until now .... but woman being educated now just can not take it easily and she fights for her rights and exploitation......anyways leave that , I think you mentioned right that this is the revenge from pratigya's side as she still thinks that he kidnapped her .....and beat nitin . so may be this is her way to take revenge from him and she wanted to take revenge from him so she hardly cares for him and for other members she is normal and neutral, no feeling of revenge....and for Kesar she is a good human being and nothing else....

You did not understand me . I am not saying Krishna understands Pratigya well ..............I am saying he is trying to understand her in his own clumsy way .But she is NOT ...........and she has an advantage of understanding better if she THINKS .....as she is educated.

Neither am I saying Education can make marraiges alright . All I am saying is Education enables a person to understand things better and broaden their mind . If uneducated duo like Krishna and Komal understood that they have to work on their marraige to make it work .........why not Pratigya and adarsh ? At least they r uneducated ............these guys r educted , sanskaari , shareeef , right ? All the time they use those words , setting themselves apart from these other guys ...........so what r they doing ?

About the wah wah and claps......I often feel like doing same thing when I see Pratigya and Aarushi meetings........what an agenda..........I will stay married and teach a lesson .............How did she exactly think that was gonna happen ? So much confidence she had in her abilities or what ? She knew it beforehand that Krishna was Krishna and not like SS or shakti and that her attempts to teach him wud be succesful? If Krishna was like Shakti ...........by now she and her teaching attempts wud have gone out of the window and this professor who is doing so much dramas right now with his conditions of sending her home wud be standing scared in front of sHakti with folded hands .

The truth is her sabak seekhana is seeming succesful to her coz Krishna , out of his basic love for her , entertains and tolerates it as he does not really like hurting her . And that fact is not understood by her at all ...........that if he wants he can do so many things to me , but he doesnt .............my education , my progressive ideas wud NOt protect me from that torture if he chooses to inflict it on me . But he doesn't and restrains himself most of the time............he loses temper but I also push him a lot . This understanding is not in her head full of unrealistic ideas .

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saavie

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Posted: 15 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

You did not understand me . I am not saying Krishna understands Pratigya well ..............I am saying he is trying to understand her in his own clumsy way .But she is NOT ...........and she has an advantage of understanding better if she THINKS .....as she is educated.

Neither am I saying Education can make marraiges alright . All I am saying is Education enables a person to understand things better and broaden their mind . If uneducated duo like Krishna and Komal understood that they have to work on their marraige to make it work .........why not Pratigya and adarsh ? At least they r uneducated ............these guys r educted , sanskaari , shareeef , right ? All the time they use those words , setting themselves apart from these other guys ...........so what r they doing ?

About the wah wah and claps......I often feel like doing same thing when I see Pratigya and Aarushi meetings........what an agenda..........I will stay married and teach a lesson .............How did she exactly think that was gonna happen ? So much confidence she had in her abilities or what ? She knew it beforehand that Krishna was Krishna and not like SS or shakti and that her attempts to teach him wud be succesful? If Krishna was like Shakti ...........by now she and her teaching attempts wud have gone out of the window and this professor who is doing so much dramas right now with his conditions of sending her home wud be standing scared in front of sHakti with folded hands .

The truth is her sabak seekhana is seeming succesful to her coz Krishna , out of his basic love for her , entertains and tolerates it as he does not really like hurting her . And that fact is not understood by her at all ...........that if he wants he can do so many things to me , but he doesnt .............my education , my progressive ideas wud NOt protect me from that torture if he chooses to inflict it on me . But he doesn't and restrains himself most of the time............he loses temper but I also push him a lot . This understanding is not in her head full of unrealistic ideas .

Dear , infact I think that basic idea of our posting is different that's why we are not understanding each other , your basic idea is that how this marriage can be alright and ways you are talking are ok but my basic idea is not like you I am actually more focused on plight of woman in country like india... their emotions , their feel about the person whom they don't like and living with them etc.....so I do appreciate your post.....😊

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laks76

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Posted: 15 years ago

#75

waa that is wonderful analysation of Facts. I really appreciate what u have written. You should send it to the creators , they will also get an idea for their future story line. I think both Krishna and Pratigya make this drama a hit. Without pratigya krishna won;t be this mad and do the things he do. Pratigya's cold attitude and rude behavioor makes him do nasty things. Anyway they both have a wonderful chemistry onscreen. Morevoer whatever they do it looks so natural. Credit goes to both of them. it doesn't feel like artificial.Yesterday;s episode when pratigya got up and rubbed his back the scene look so natural. The way krishna bought the rabadi was the another touch of natural. I think the naturality of the scenes and dialogues are the one which makes this drama a hit. All the actors are improving day by day. Arhann is the super hero. Let us hope that this drama maintain its TRP and stroy line in very good line for a long time so that we vieweres can see lot of kriya scenes in future.

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damon_biteme

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Posted: 15 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

About the wah wah and claps......I often feel like doing same thing when I see Pratigya and Aarushi meetings........what an agenda..........I will stay married and teach a lesson .............How did she exactly think that was gonna happen ? So much confidence she had in her abilities or what ? She knew it beforehand that Krishna was Krishna and not like SS or shakti and that her attempts to teach him wud be succesful? If Krishna was like Shakti ...........by now she and her teaching attempts wud have gone out of the window and this professor who is doing so much dramas right now with his conditions of sending her home wud be standing scared in front of sHakti with folded hands .

The truth is her sabak seekhana is seeming succesful to her coz Krishna , out of his basic love for her , entertains and tolerates it as he does not really like hurting her . And that fact is not understood by her at all ...........that if he wants he can do so many things to me , but he doesnt .............my education , my progressive ideas wud NOt protect me from that torture if he chooses to inflict it on me . But he doesn't and restrains himself most of the time............he loses temper but I also push him a lot . This understanding is not in her head full of unrealistic ideas .

Kools I always love your post but this part is what impressed me the most. She got into this marriage with intention of taking revenge. She was confident that she will be successful in doing so and that is because she was aware of the fact that Baba loved her and she cld use this fact to seek her revenge. What if Baba had just lusted her and didn't love her. Wld statements like 'You can have my body but not my love' have ever made any difference to him? Wld he have stopped himself from forcing himself on her? If Baba was anything like SS or Shakti her revege plan wld have fallen flat on her face and she wld be in a sorry state.

She is weaker then him in every aspect physically, socially, economically and also political connections so if Baba hadn't cared abt her what cld she have done if he had raped her? As you said it kools he just doesn't want her physically he wants an emotional connection with her and Prats is aware of this fact hence she able to direct all the verbal abuse at him. If Baba didn't want to bond with at emotional level she wld have turned into another Kesar.

Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Kools I always love your post but this part is what impressed me the most. She got into this marriage with intention of taking revenge. She was confident that she will be successful in doing so and that is because she was aware of the fact that Baba loved her and she cld use this fact to seek her revenge. What if Baba had just lusted her and didn't love her. Wld statements like 'You can have my body but not my love' have ever made any difference to him? Wld he have stopped himself from forcing himself on her? If Baba was anything like SS or Shakti her revege plan wld have fallen flat on her face and she wld be in a sorry state.

She is weaker then him in every aspect physically, socially, economically and also political connections so if Baba hadn't cared abt her what cld she have done if he had raped her? As you said it kools he just doesn't want her physically he wants an emotional connection with her and Prats is aware of this fact hence she able to direct all the verbal abuse at him. If Baba didn't want to bond with at emotional level she wld have turned into another Kesar.

Precisely ............Very aptly pointed out .This is what I have been saying all along . What did she even KNOW about him at that stage .............to be so confident that HER SABAK SEEKHANA WUD EVEN WORK . It cud have been Sheer LUST . And had it been so ...............she wud be in such a sorry state by now that she wud not have been able to pick up her own pieces .............she shud remember how she wailed after the kidnapping , how shaken she was although she was not techinically raped . This punishment she is giving him is coz she is his EMOTIONAL WEAKPOINT .

I hope she encounters Angad once more ...............simply to see him at close quarters and mentally compare him to Krishna. One day in Angad's company and hearing him talk and she will understand what real hateful men r about . Even his two companions..........see how eager they were to feast on her like wolves when she was kidnapped .These r men for u...........the real chauvinists , the beasts who chew women like sugar cane and spit them out . They dont let u refuse their manhood night after night and give u a false sense of power . Krishna humors her coz deep down he loves her crazily . If this Angad track comes and we see her confronting Angad once more , We can hope to see Angad HIMSELF pointing out this to her and telling her how foolish she was thinking Krishna cud be HIM ............and adding that let God save her from him now as HE IS NO KRISHNA. These words I want to sink in her brain coz it is so unable to detect this difference .

Of course I wud also want to see Krishna entering at some point to give Angad real good ...........nothing shud happen to her .But I wud like to see some wisdom sink in her brain from a negative character .

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AqUaMaRiN

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Posted: 15 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: saavie

@ koolsadhu : so according to you Krishna understand pratigya well.... waaaah what an understanding👏👏👏I think there is no understanding from anyone......this marriage is a result of Krishna's obsession for her otherwise this marriage will not ever exist.....what you are not understanding that prati needs time and she is not God if she is an educated girl as education has no concern with someone's emotions and I just want to tell you one thing if u say that an educated person can make the marriage alright then you are wrong ....... In India earlier when girls were not suppose to have good education the percentage of divorces were almost negligible ....reason the girls behaviour was like Kesar .....but now as the girls are being educated rapidly , one can see divorce cases in next two or three houses , percentage has increased because man thinks that this is the man dominated society until now .... but woman being educated now just can not take it easily and she fights for her rights and exploitation......anyways leave that , I think you mentioned right that this is the revenge from pratigya's side as she still thinks that he kidnapped her .....and beat nitin . so may be this is her way to take revenge from him and she wanted to take revenge from him so she hardly cares for him and for other members she is normal and neutral, no feeling of revenge....and for Kesar she is a good human being and nothing else....

Hey Saavie! Agree with most of everything u said! That was a great example of education and divorce!!! Just wanted to clear one thing - Pratigya never said she wanted revenge from Krishna! She wanted to teach him a lesson that Krishna can not force her to love him even if he had succeeded in forcing her into the marriage!!! Well, everything that Krishna makes Pratigya go through, I think, its really hard for her to try and understand him and without understanding, no chance of falling in love, esp. in case of KriYa!!!

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

You did not understand me . I am not saying Krishna understands Pratigya well ..............I am saying he is trying to understand her in his own clumsy way .But she is NOT ...........and she has an advantage of understanding better if she THINKS .....as she is educated.

Hello koolsadhu1000! Hmmm... U say, Krishna is trying to understand Pratigya ... 😕 I really cant point my finger on exactly which one of Krishna's clumsy ways was his attempt at trying to understand Pratigya. So, IF by chance I missed ny such scene where Krishna is trying to understand Pratigya - WHY should he NOT??? He is the one who claims to love Pratigya and the one who wanted to marry her by hook or by crook!!! Firstly - IF Krishna ever tried to understand Pratigya, the way his character is (always gets what he wants!), I dont think he would have failed to understand Pratigya; Secondly - IF he really tried to understand Pratigya ever, then, his feelings for Pratigya would never have come out as selfish obsession - no matter how clumsy his ways are!!! And thirdly - Its Krishna who HAS to try and understand Pratigya BCOZ he is the one who loves her and I'm sure, when Krishna starts to understand and care about Pratigya's feelings, Pratigya will automatically become drawn towards him!😊

Now, WHY does Pratigya have to think or even try and understand the person whom she claims to hate or who made her suffer and is still making her suffer the most in her life - so far???😕 Just bcoz she is educated? Just bcoz she has to spend the rest of her life with Krishna? Just bcoz not brooding in the past is the wise thing to do??? Then, what about her feelings? I mean, how exactly is she supposed to try and understand Krishna? Lets say, Pratigya paid back Krishna for making her suffer by not letting him touch her during the wedding night BUT b4 she could even think of understanding him, he chokes her and scares the hell out of her!!! And she is expected to understand Krishna as to why she was choked for expressing her feelings and her anger??? Krishna's family wants to give Pratigya a pet-name - Pratigya doesnt agree and Krishna supports her - AND Pratigya is expected to try and understand Krishna, without whom she wont have to be in ny such situation??? I think, Krishna has to give Pratigya that chance and time so that she can try and understand him BUT choking her or abusing her or assaulting her is NOT considered as giving chances and Krishna is impatient and arrogant and short/hot-tempered to even give her some time or sit down and listen to wat she has to say or why she hates him or why she cant love him!!! Now, Pratigya can hardly tie him up and make him listen to what she has to say, can she? Esp. when she doesnt even like him!!!

Neither am I saying Education can make marraiges alright . All I am saying is Education enables a person to understand things better and broaden their mind . If uneducated duo like Krishna and Komal understood that they have to work on their marraige to make it work .........why not Pratigya and adarsh ? At least they r uneducated ............these guys r educted , sanskaari , shareeef , right ? All the time they use those words , setting themselves apart from these other guys ...........so what r they doing ?

Its true what u said about education! BUT I disagree when u say Krishna and Komal understands that they have to work on their marriage!!! COZ they DO NOT!!! What Krishna understands is that he loves Pratigya and so he married her and she should feel herself as the lucky one and love him back... Krishna understands that bcoz he is the husband, he has right on every part of Pratigya's body, even if her soul/heart doesnt want to accept him!!! And Krishna understands that if Kesar can tolerate Shakti's beatings, Pratigya is supposed to do the same - All these are nothing about understanding how to work on a marriage but simply Krishna's MCP thoughts and ways which expresses his illiterate and uncivilized upbringing!!! B4, Komal used to think that a wife's duty is to pleasure her husband and she had some inferiority complex with the educated and civilized Saxenas which she used to cover up with her antics! BUT now, she is starting to understand how to work on a marriage and thats the effect of the educated Saxenas and Naina's love and civilized Adarsh's understanding towards Komal!!!

The BIG difference between Komal-Krishna and Adarsh-Pratigya, other than education, is that the former two loves the latter two, where as, the latter two are in the marriage just for the society and family's sake!!!

So, I think more than education, the emotion of love in Komal and Krishna makes them different than Adarsh and Pratigya... Komal and Krishna does not know how to work on their marriages, ALL they know is HOW to BE WITH the person they love or HOW to KEEP the person they love to themselves... I think working on a marriage needs one partner to consider the other partner's feelings! Komal has just started to consider and is trying to understand Adarsh and his family's feelings and so is Adarsh; where as, Krishna is STILL oblivious to Pratigya or her family's feelings (or ny one's feelings in that case,😆) other than himself and his feelings for Pratigya and Pratigya has tried to understand, not Krishna's heart or his feelings BUT Krishna and his family's ways BUT being the educated one, she does NOT want to accept their thoughts and MCP ways and so the dramas!!!

About the wah wah and claps......I often feel like doing same thing when I see Pratigya and Aarushi meetings........what an agenda..........I will stay married and teach a lesson .............How did she exactly think that was gonna happen ? So much confidence she had in her abilities or what ? She knew it beforehand that Krishna was Krishna and not like SS or shakti and that her attempts to teach him wud be succesful? If Krishna was like Shakti ...........by now she and her teaching attempts wud have gone out of the window and this professor who is doing so much dramas right now with his conditions of sending her home wud be standing scared in front of sHakti with folded hands .

😆 For starters, she thought that she will never let Krishna have the satisfaction of his victory of achieving her BY NOT letting him have her heart or soul or body! I dont think she was thinking in long-terms or was planning out her already ruined future!!!

I'm not sure if she had ny confidence in her abilities but I dont think a teacher starts teaching a lesson with total confidence that each and every student would understand her lesson and her lesson would be a total success!!! Students wont be failing or having average marks while some were acing - all of whom were taught by the same teacher!😉 Now, if Krishna is the type of student who is below average, its not Pratigya's fault that he fails to understand! So, its not like just bcoz she was confident, she had to be successful even though I think she has succeeded, some what! I mean, even Krishna had confidence in his abilities when he was trying to force himself on her during honeymoon trip, but wat happened to that confidence? Wat made him stop??? Sure, even I think it was somehow his unconscious love for Pratigya that stopped him BUT eventually, it was Pratigya who refused to even look at him while he was forcing himself on her that hurt his male-pride and may be, it was also what Pratigya said about the difference between forcing(raping) and loving which made him stop! But, if we consider wat Krishna said b4 he left her alone, it was Pratigya's refusal that hurt his male-ego, which in turn made him leave her alone, by saying that she doesnt deserve to be loved by him,😆!

NOW, I've read many comments where Krishna and Shakti are compared and in the beginning, until the honeymoon blunder, I dint like comparing Krishna to Shakti - simply bcoz I believed that Krishna is different from Shakti! But after they returned from the honeymoon trip, I had a hard time accepting that Krishna is infact, a lot like SS and Shakti - Krishna is just a little less bad than the other two! And the main difference is NOT between Krishna and Shakti BUT between Pratigya and Kesar! If it were Kesar in Pratigya's place, do u think she would have refused Krishna? If Pratigya was in Kesar's shoes, do u think she would have tolerated the beatings and marital r***s??? The only difference between Shakti and Krishna is that Krishna claims to love his wife, where as Shakti hates his wife! Shakti is the way he is - yes, bcoz of his upbringing BUT its also BCOZ Kesar lets him be!!! Bcoz Kesar tolerates his abuses in the hope of being loved by him some day! Bcoz Kesar is uneducated enough to sacrifice her 4 unborn kids just to stay with and be loved by an animal!!! And BCOZ Krishna is married to Pratigya who doesnt accept her fate of being forced to submission by men, there is hope left for Krishna that he will not turn into another SS or Shakti!!!

The truth is her sabak seekhana is seeming succesful to her coz Krishna , out of his basic love for her , entertains and tolerates it as he does not really like hurting her . And that fact is not understood by her at all ...........that if he wants he can do so many things to me , but he doesnt .............my education , my progressive ideas wud NOt protect me from that torture if he chooses to inflict it on me . But he doesn't and restrains himself most of the time............he loses temper but I also push him a lot . This understanding is not in her head full of unrealistic ideas .

Well I think, Pratigya's lesson is becoming a success BCOZ Krishna is no longer thinking of women as simple as paan but that they r more complicated. He is now confused that when he asks(ie. forces) women for something, they dont comply BUT when he is not expecting nything, women can be caring and trusting! He is also confused HOW some women accepts the most beatings by their husbands where as some women does not tolerate being wrongfully slapped!!! Lolzzz.. Can u make it clear what u meant by Krishna entertaining Pratigya? COZ, I dont see Pratigya celebrating her success of teaching Krishna lessons - its just us viewers and crazy Pratigya-fans who love the way Pratigya is steadily but surely changing Krishna's MCP thoughts! I understand and agree that Krishna sometimes try to tolerate Pratigya's refusals BUT entertaining her? And NOT LIKING to hurt her has NEVER really STOPPED him from actually hurting her more and more - so HOW exactly is Pratigya supposed to appreciate such abuse when Krishna's actions speak louder than his thoughts?

Why r u thinking that Pratigya would have nothing to do if Krishna actually does all the things that he could do???😕 I mean, Pratigya is supposed to be different than Kesar, isnt she? So, if she just accepts Krishna's abuses, and marital r***s - HOW is she gonna be ny different from Kesar? And BCOZ Pratigya is educated and has progressive ideas, THAT is MORE the reason why she will never tolerate EVEN if Krishna does all the things that he could do - which I personally think, he CAN NOT do and thats wat makes him different from Shakti!!!

Ohk! I think u expect Pratigya to ignore her feelings about not wanting to love Krishna or let him touch her and just think about how she pushes Krishna and how Krishna refrains himself after scaring the hell out of her??? So, she should pity Krishna's state and give him some/all of the pleasures he is desperately seeking??? Too bad, THATS NOT LOVE!!!

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Opti

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Posted: 15 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

savvie I ask u one thing . Had Krishna done this same thing with HER ...........given her excellent food , looked after her occasionally when she was sick , never taunted him about her education, seen that she sleeping on a bed with satin sheets and NEVER given her a second glance as a man , as a husband , or bothered to touch her even once ...........HOW WUD SHE FEEL ? How wud a woman feel if for days after days her husband does NOT touch her as a man , doesnt even stop to talk to her but runs away constantly to office and his family [ she runs away to kitchen and family right] ?

I'll tell u .........it wud be TORTURE .U said u were a woman and so am I ..........and we both know what we wud feel if we had to live like this in a marraige . FOREVER .

For better or for worse she DID this marraige na ? Then she OWES it to HERSELF not HIM , to MAKE IT WORK . Marraige cannot be used as a platform for vengeance unlimited . She is WRONG .

Infact what u said that treatment is being given to Komal .........a woman , by Adarsh . She is getting respect , good food , not being taunted about education , yet she is extremely unhappy as Adarsh is NOT interested in her as a woman and has not consummated marraige with her .For a woman all these things r meaningless if husband does not treat her as a wife .

It is not just about sex . That is merely a medium to express total acceptance of the situation called marraige . But it is a very necessary medium as without it MARRAIGES FAIL . Acceptance , rejection , warmth , coldness all r conveyed through that medium and that way can be also used to humiliate your spouse or make him feel extremely loved . And she is using this medium consciously to humiliate him as a spouse . This union is sacred and it shud NOT be used for vengeance as it has disastrous effects .

She is doing all things quietly like an efficient maid as she knows very well that she has hit him where it hurts the most . It is taunting him , driving him crazy as a man .......and if these r her goals , Im sorry I don't feel anything for her at all . Coz though her anger is justifiable her revenge is petty ...........had she used her education to deal with her anger positively by changing Krishna and making permanent changes in the chauvinistic household , I wud applaud her . But she wants this petty revenge for LIFE and thinks she is doing some big great thing by listening to that immature Aarushi ...........it only shows how being educated does not necessarily enable u to do the right thing in life .

I agree with savvie here. As not only a woman but a married one at that (been married for a decade and a half) I can say from personal experience that a woman cannot give into her spouse unless she is emotionally in the right place. Irrespective of how much a woman loves her man, if the two have had a fight/misunderstanding, she cannot accept physical advances.It is only after the two have made peace that any physcial communication would be possible. It is different for men. They can dichotomise between the physical and emotional.

In Prats case she does not even love the man and in fact hates his guts. How can she willingly give herself to him, then? Education has nothing to do here as it relates to emotions. IF Krishna really cared about her, he needs to be sensitve to her feelings. The guy is not even willing to listen to good advices from Kesar and Komal. So how can he do that?

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Did not log in during the weekend and come back to see so many arguments and counter-arguments. As I am busy now will come back and put in what I think of the two leads.

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