In Defence of Krishna : Don't Tame him YET - Page 12

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hope . brilliant as usual , and i agree with all that u said [ a very objective post ] but i wud like to add my two cents about the golgappa scene..........

In my opinion ............ Krishna's outburst at the golgappa cart was not so much an attempt to embarass her as much as a real vent out of what he instinctively felt . I identified with him TOTALLY there ............not coz I support every action of his or Im his fan , but for the natural nature of his reaction .

It reminded me of sumthing I experienced years ago ...........a cousin sister of mine had left her sasural similiarly after a spat with her mother in law and moved to a rental flat . She claimed to be very unhappy there and emphasized that she had moved out on principled grounds , not coz she wanted to cut the boy from his family . I wont go into details of what the principled grounds were but thats what she said and told all the relatives of the boys family whenever she visited them . The boys mom was deeply attached to her son and fell sick , missing him . The relatives decided to patch things up between the two and told her that the bahu herself told them that she too was extremely unhappy . So Ma in law decided to swallow her ego and visit bahu at rental flat to patch things up .

Well when she rang the doorbell and entered , she saw the bahu sitting with her mom , dad , and sister at the table and eating gulab jamuns and laughing . The bahu rushed to greet her and talked politely enough and all , showed her around the place but the mother in law while going made this remark to her

I thought u must be missing us too and I came to patch up but obviously I was wrong .U seem quite happy here , eating gulab jamuns . Silly me .

My point is...........this is the way any normal husband will think ..Krishna is not exactly normal . He had been going crazy trying to convince her and his family to arrive at a solution of some sort and each time he was rebuffed as they were UNBENDING . He made a very significant cry the last time before the golgappa scene ...........Yeah well , go on , stick to ur principles , what u dont care about is human feelings . Insaan ke sukh dukh ka tumhe kouno kuch naahi .............it was a heart wrenching statement . This whole SS shud come and take thing was a phoney facade on part of the Saxenas and Pratigya both ..........they just wanted to stretch it to give Krishna a dose of bitter medicene now that they were in a position to do so , after gauging that he was emotionally involved and weak for their daughter .They had figured out by now that although he yelled and stomped he was no Shakti and that Pratigya was his Achilles heel .

And sitting in that frame of mind ...........if he saw her eating chaat happily on the road , do u think any man will even pause and think that cmon its just golgappas and shhe too needs to relieve stress ?

I think not . In fact his reaction was so natural and so much in tune with MY mind as a viewer [ even before he did the tamasha i thought the same way ] that when he said those words , I shook my head .

The hand catching was purely being the husband all the way .Had she kept aside her anger [ which i admit was NOT possible by then] she wud have understood it that he held it as a husband , not to intimidate her at all .When she refused to grant him cognizance as a husband he , crushed , came away . Even in anger women understand their man if he catches hand in this way , unwilling to let go , conveying sumthing thru passionate action and not necessarily with words as men r seldom good with words . And Krishna toh is a rustic boor . But BLIND RAGE simmering in her mind for long has deprived her of these finer sensitivities .

Anyways dear these were my feelings about the scene ........just thought of saying them to u .

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

Merarai:

Thanks

I agree with everything you said. As a woman who lives in North America I would be horrified at her situation and his behaviour. In fact I would be the first one taking her to a women's crisis centre. unfortunately, her situation does not seem so extraordinary in India and sorry but neither does Kesars.

I love my country but I accept it with its plus and minus points. That's pragmatism for you.

Would Krishna be my first pick for HUSBAND OF THE YEAR award. Definitely not. But if I had made the decision on my own will to marry this man whatever my reaasons I would tough it up and find a way to survive. the keyword here being survive not thrive. If I wanted to thrive I would have picked Husband of the year and evaded the stalker and eve-teaser type. I would definitely not take my sister - another vulnerable person - and roam around freely with no male protection in a crowded marketplace immediately after the stalkers and thugs came on the scene. I would advise my parents and would have insisted that a male member of my family accompany me at all times until the situation is resolved. Does this mean I have succumbed to fear? temporaily maybe but in the larger picture I have strategically controlled my exposure in a highly risky and charged environment.

Ok let's talk about the Professor. Someone said his reactions were understandable, I did not feel that. He did not try to stop the marriage because his daughter was probably going to face marital and domestic abuse everyday. No No. he tried to stop it because the groom was illiterate. My friend when the groom is loaded like Krishna is the education is a matter of indulgence not necessity or survival or livelihood. Your daughter can spend the rest of your life teaching the dude and he can get a honorary degree with your university connections if it matters to you that much.

He takes his daugher away from the hellhole but is willing to send her back after she gets an apology. Is this where his daughter learns her naivety and this constant state of oblivion? Did he expect that the apoloy would not humiliate the extremely extremely chauvinistic FIL and her fate would be a hundred times worse upon her return. Why send her back. the marriage is not consummated so apply for an annullment. This is more honourable and rationale behaviour of a protective and loving father.

Originally posted by: MERARAI

Hey Stillhopeful (nice username)😃

First lesson to learn about eve-teasers is to ignore them. If they get a reaction out of the person they are teasing they look at it as encouragement and carry it further. Prat's behavior on the train on the very first episode knowing fully well that there were the sleazy dudes around should have had her antenna way up and been cautious about her behavior. She instead in her own head seemed to believe she was living in a western society where such behavior is not as common as in India. Society here in the USA has very different norms than those in India. I don't know if India has changed that much in the past few decades that society emulates the western culture in such matters in small towns as well.

I think Pratigya gave Krishna the first signs she was drawn/interested/bothered by him when they saw each other for the first time. Krishna was bowled over after seeing her. All he did for the duration of her stay there was just tracking her movements with his eyes and staring at her dumbfounded. After Prats locked eyes with him the first time she looked down and away a lttle shy/embarassed whatever. But then she kept looking back at him again and again at least 5 more times. Why? Wasn't she sending a signal that she was drawn to him? I thought so. In any society, one of the first signals of interest between two people is when they exchange glances, unable to look away,etc. So I would say she encouraged him by looking back at him time and again.

I think Prats is having a hard time coming to terms with the fact she is drawn to an unpud like Krishna but she can't do anything about it.nor does she know how to cope with it. She is essentially directing her anger at Krishna instead of herself. She started hiding and lying point blank to Nainaji when she wore the sari Krishna sent her. Where were her sanskaars when she was trying to do all these on the sly and using not wanting to pareshaan her parents as an excuse to hide behind her behavior. She has made choices in her life of her own free will but refuses to acknowledge it as such and places the blame on Krishna for her own decisions. She over thinks things after the fact and acts out to counter her poor decision.

Krishna on the other hand has been someone who lets his heart lead. Good or bad, right or wrong, what you see is what you get. He deals with what is and makes choices and moves on. The only thing that baffles me about him is why does he need Pratigya so much in his life. He said hum sabko chod sakthe lekin Pratigyaji kol nahi chod sakthe". What was it about her that has in tied up in knots all the time since their marriage. We know it's not lust, so is it a hunger for an emotional attachment with her?

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In reality he hated to see fear on her face . Dar jaisi bakwaas cheez tumhare sundar chehre pe achi nahi lagti he always told her ...........what a paradox . Little did he know that he scared her . Ironic isn't it? his oblivion is endearing and disturbing at the same time.

Truth is she wud have been RAPED by Angad long back ...........unknowingly Krishna stood between her and Angad . Angad was afraid .........very afraid of crossing krishna . Krishna was too formidable a foe for him .👏 yes if my choice was Angad or Krishna. I would go with Krishna. A lot of potential there. Nitin was actually a distant and unrealistic dream. in the situation that they were in he was extremely brave to have lasted unharmed as long as he did. and it was extremely unrealistic to show that he maintained the commitment for as long as he did.

Stalkers r often cowards at heart and so Angad began his IAGO plotiing . I dont see cowardice in Krishna..........an essential hallmark of stalkers . Krishna is unafraid to speak bluntly or act bluntly .The day he understood she was getting engaged he went straight to the engagement hall . Stalkers r not like that at all . Krishna came across as a stalker but he essentially was nOT ONE . He is not even a womanizer . He is rather naive about women . Pratigya was his first love and will be his only love . He went about it in the wrong way ...........but then he does all things in a wrong way only ..........be it expressing love to his Ghanti Dadi or Komal ..........or protecting Tunna .👏👏

Angad ....the true stalker has STILL not given up on Pratigya. The way he asked the Professor ..how is Pratigya ...........showed his true colors .He lusts still after her and if not her , he will have Arushi who is like her .Now THERES a real stalker for u .👏👏