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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan



I wasn't specifically talking about the Screen Awards. Overall, SRK Is capable of being beaten to an award, and has been proven many many times. Clearly the Best Actor trophy was an arrangement, and he's so shameless that he doesn't care that its pretty obvious.



+1 .. couldnt agree wid u more..
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Posted: 11 years ago
Happy for my SRK and Deeps. 🥳and all the other deserving fellas.🥳
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Posted: 11 years ago
Happy for Deepika. She more than deserved it. SRK not as much. Wish Dhanush had one something😔
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Posted: 11 years ago
so happy for deepika sushant yjhd and aashiqui2
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: qazplm

firstly calm down and stop calling someone an idiot just coz they don't choose to believe in your far-fetched "arrangement" theory.

Yes, SRK has not always won the popular best actor award, but that could be said for everyone. Ranbir has obviously been doing good work since the past two years and receiving the awards deservedly. But it has mostly been for Critics choice. Last year, Salman took most of the popular actor awards for Dabangg 2 and ETT and the year before that, Shah took them for Don 2. I don't understand how HR fits in here, but SRK has won over him as many times as he has won over SRK.

I completely disagree with you when you claim that the audience is much more smarter today and won't support someone who doesn't deserve it. They might have become more accepting and diverse in their intake of cinema, but they still show their loyalty towards the old formula.If what you say is true, then why are mindless movies like Ready, Bodyguard, Rowdy Rathore, Chennai Express, Krrssh 3, Dhoom 3 the biggest hits instead of good cinema like Lootera, BMB etc? It's coz the audience is accepting of different cinema today, but they'll still be committed to the masala entertainment.

And it's the biggest delusion to think that audience would vote for the ones who deserve it. That's never the answer in any case. People vote for the actors they adore and not the ones they might have enjoyed in one movie. It's an unfortunate truth. It's been proven by all the polls SRK keeps winning this year. And I'm not sure which flop movies your talking about coz barring Paheli (in 2005), Shah hasn't had a flop since 2001.

So no, it is not hard to believe at all why SRK would and could have won this award. And saying all that, let me also mention that I was one of the first ones to say what an embarrassment it was that SRK was even nominated for Chennai Express. But I'm not at all surprised that he would win the popular category.





How do you know people are voting for their favorites and not who deserves it? Not everyone thinks like that, you cant sit here and generalize and just make statements like that. You may be one of those people who will always vote for their favourites, but there are lots of people in the world, if not more, who ARE NOT like it. So that's all your opinion, and not a fact.

Secondly, what kind of sentence is this - "barring Paheli (in 2005), Shah hasn't had a flop since 2001", Is there a reason why you are not counting Paheli as a flop? And are saying he hasn't had a flop since 2001, what kind of nonsense is that 😆 😆 Besides that, that whole statement is a clear sign of delusion, unless you're one of those people who ACTUALLY think Ra.1 was a hit? 😆

Regardless my main point was that, if SRK's popularity is so solid, he would never have lost an award and would've never had unsuccessful films. The point is he does, and whether you like or not, his award was clearly some kind of deal or arrangement. The only difference this time, is that its extremely obvious 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan



How do you know people are voting for their favorites and not who deserves it? Not everyone thinks like that, you cant sit here and generalize and just make statements like that. You may be one of those people who will always vote for their favourites, but there are lots of people in the world, if not more, who ARE NOT like it. So that's all your opinion, and not a fact.

Secondly, what kind of sentence is this - "barring Paheli (in 2005), Shah hasn't had a flop since 2001", Is there a reason why you are not counting Paheli as a flop? And are saying he hasn't had a flop since 2001, what kind of nonsense is that 😆 😆 Besides that, that whole statement is a clear sign of delusion, unless you're one of those people who ACTUALLY think Ra.1 was a hit? 😆

Regardless my main point was that, if SRK's popularity is so solid, he would never have lost an award and would've never had unsuccessful films. The point is he does, and whether you like or not, his award was clearly some kind of deal or arrangement. The only difference this time, is that its extremely obvious 😆



Even if I accept your argument that voting is not based on favorites, then you can't argue your side to be a fact in the same manner. My argument is basically backed by a solid theory that popularity is a social phenomenon that rules almost every social context. Whether it be a school environment, business trends, public personality etc. Popularity has this external pesuasive quality to it where its sole purpose is to attract you towards it. So for instance, between two CEO's, where one might be deservedly placed while the other one may be more of a people's person (and a less deserving one), employees would usually vote for the friendly one to stay back since that's how we operate in social environments. It's a natural response. Similarly, popularity tends to speak the loudest in an entertainment business. In a hypothetical situation, if I like Farhan Akhtar in BMB and he's up for the best actor, then I will definitely vote for him. But here's the twist, Shahrukh Khan is also placed in the same category. Now I may feel like Shah has given a very mediocre performance, but having been his fan for long and seeing all his work for the past decade, I know he's not a bad actor. So my emotional connect and loyalty to him might win out over a single fleeting emotion I had for Farhan's performance in BMB. This is why I take the position I do. It might not be true for all, but I do assume that it works for the majority since I see it reflected quite often.

Lol firstly, that's a proper sentence.😆 The answer to your second question was my previous statement. I mentioned Paheli because it was a flop. So was Swades. Yes, I am most certainly saying that SRK hasn't had a flop since 2002 except those two. And if you think there are any, please do let me know. Delusion is you thinking RaOne wasn't a hit. What are your arguments based on exactly? Atleast I have facts to back up my statements. RaOne was the third highest grosser of 2011. It was declared a Hit. Until all the blockbusters came along this year, it was the seventh highest grosser in Bollywood.

I was in no way even implying that SRK could never lose a popularity contest. You keep bringing that on your own. I was refuting your point of it being "arranged". Coz clearly, I don't see it much of a challenge for him to win among the actors he was nominated with. Shah's popularity is whole different topic. ( a fun one though) So I guess I'll just conclude in the same manner you started with...if you think its arranged, "it's your opinion, and not a fact.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: qazplm

Even if I accept your argument that voting is not based on favorites, then you can't argue your side to be a fact in the same manner. My argument is basically backed by a solid theory that popularity is a social phenomenon that rules almost every social context. Whether it be a school environment, business trends, public personality etc. Popularity has this external pesuasive quality to it where its sole purpose is to attract you towards it. So for instance, between two CEO's, where one might be deservedly placed while the other one may be more of a people's person (and a less deserving one), employees would usually vote for the friendly one to stay back since that's how we operate in social environments. It's a natural response. Similarly, popularity tends to speak the loudest in an entertainment business. In a hypothetical situation, if I like Farhan Akhtar in BMB and he's up for the best actor, then I will definitely vote for him. But here's the twist, Shahrukh Khan is also placed in the same category. Now I may feel like Shah has given a very mediocre performance, but having been his fan for long and seeing all his work for the past decade, I know he's not a bad actor. So my emotional connect and loyalty to him might win out over a single fleeting emotion I had for Farhan's performance in BMB. This is why I take the position I do. It might not be true for all, but I do assume that it works for the majority since I see it reflected quite often.

Lol firstly, that's a proper sentence.😆 The answer to your second question was my previous statement. I mentioned Paheli because it was a flop. So was Swades. Yes, I am most certainly saying that SRK hasn't had a flop since 2002 except those two. And if you think there are any, please do let me know. Delusion is you thinking RaOne wasn't a hit. What are your arguments based on exactly? Atleast I have facts to back up my statements. RaOne was the third highest grosser of 2011. It was declared a Hit. Until all the blockbusters came along this year, it was the seventh highest grosser in Bollywood.

I was in no way even implying that SRK could never lose a popularity contest. You keep bringing that on your own. I was refuting your point of it being "arranged". Coz clearly, I don't see it much of a challenge for him to win among the actors he was nominated with. Shah's popularity is whole different topic. ( a fun one though) So I guess I'll just conclude in the same manner you started with...if you think its arranged, "it's your opinion, and not a fact.



Regarding Ra1 I am not delusional, even SRK Himself has taken many digs at himself for losing money as a producer. Being 7th highest grosser doesn't mean the movie was a success. That means it was the 7th movie to bring in a certain amount of money, that doesn't mean that the movie is a blockbuster, because everyone knows the budget of the movie was extremely high. Im surprised as SRK fan you wouldn't know that? But Im sure its convenient to leave that detail out. 😆

Anyway, you're changing your stand and words as the posts come along but clearly I've proven my point 😆

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