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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: amy22

I always thought it was a big problem of our Asian society that women are held responsible for every possible thing that goes wrong.

In today's modern world, we know that it's not only because of women that many families do not have any children. But many people, especially elderly ones, refuse to believe that also men can be disabled to produce children for different biological reasons.

A friend of mine, who's been married for six years, does not have any children due to a disease that her husband suffered from many years ago and as a consequence of his healthy life, he can't produce any children. And although her mother-in-law knows very well that it's because of her son, she keeps blaming my friend for that and never forgets to mention that she's one good mother-in-law who wouldn't ever want her son to marry another woman for children.

I wonder, why her mother-in-law does that? Does she think it's a shame if men, the "powerful" gender, are not able to do something? Or does she find it easier to blame her daughter-in-law to satisfy herself that the problem is not in a person of her family, but the girl? Why doesn't she want to face the reality?

I find this whole thing so cruel. How can a woman be so uncaring towards another woman's feeling when it's not even her fault? [I mean, it's not the man's fault, either] Why blaming people for this medical, biological problem which they are not to be held responsible for?

From what I read in ur message. The fault lies equally with your FRIEND as much as her MIL.... The MIL ofcourse having the upper hand... You say in your posting you WONDER why the MIL does that... don't you ever wonder WHY is your FRIEND taking this kind of treatment...????If she loves her husband and is happy then they should just move out of the JOINT FAMILY house... otherwise she has to retort to other options.

Why is your FRIEND tolerating this kind of SUPPRESSION. WHy cant she fight for her own rights ? Does she expect her husband to fight for her and raise his voice against his own mom. Such things don't happen .

Firstly she needs to CONFIDE in her hubby and let him know exactly how she feels... very important. If she is fortunate enough he may even support her for that she needs to start the process...

I always think we shouldn't let ANYONE take UNFAIR advantage of us... We need to SPEAK up clear and loud and voice our OPINIONS when we think something is WRONG.

It all boils down to the simple fact that young GIRLS in our culture/ SUB CONTINENT are encouraged to being submissive . They are brought up with the idea of ADJUSTING and COMPROMISING right from childhood.... and thats what they do all their lives...

Amy... IF your FRIEND is nice to her MIL... it only means that she has probably reached a stage where she has resigned to it and accepted it.

If she doesn't feel the need to correct the situations.. No one else can help her. GOD helps those who help themselves....

Edited by Dimdim - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dimdim

From what I read in ur message. The fault lies equally with your FRIEND as much as her MIL.... The MIL ofcourse having the upper hand... You say in your posting you WONDER why the MIL does that... don't you ever wonder WHY is your FRIEND taking this kind of treatment...????If she loves her husband and is happy then they should just move out of the JOINT FAMILY house... otherwise she has to retort to other options.

Why is your FRIEND tolerating this kind of SUPPRESSION. WHy cant she fight for her own rights ? Does she expect her husband to fight for her and raise his voice against his own mom. Such things don't happen .

Firstly she needs to CONFIDE in her hubby and let him know exactly how she feels... very important. If she is fortunate enough he may even support her for that she needs to start the process...

I always think we shouldn't let ANYONE take UNFAIR advantage of us... We need to SPEAK up clear and loud and voice our OPINIONS when we think something is WRONG.

It all boils down to the simple fact that young GIRLS in our culture/ SUB CONTINENT are encouraged to being submissive . They are brought up with the idea of ADJUSTING and COMPROMISING right from childhood.... and thats what they do all their lives...

Amy... IF your FRIEND is nice to her MIL... it only means that she has probably reached a stage where she has resigned to it and accepted it.

If she doesn't feel the need to correct the situations.. No one else can help her. GOD helps those who help themselves....

Yes, this is very true. Culturally we are brought up to be submissive, never to speak out because that is disrespect. often that means that those very elders take advantage of this situation and use it to control things.

My experience says speaking out against opression always helps. Keeping quiet and adjusting or trying to please everyone actually ends up in pleasing no one. Here your friend can easily take the upperhand. But she thinks of her husband, her family, her everybody other than her self and live in misery than actually find a solution for it. That is what Kekta serials are made of, and sadly that is the reality of so many women, even highly educated ones in the subcontinent. Every woman is told that keeping peace is your job, compromising is your job, adjusting is your job, and women have accepted it. A big reason for this is that in our culture, we often look towards others for our own self esteem. The self is so insignificant, that it's considered a crime to ever adhere to it. And the victim is always the helpless woman in the house............

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Posted: 19 years ago
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women equailty has always been a problem. First we werent allowed to vote, then we werent allowed to work and ect. Everyday and as times go on, people will learn to accept women and make them equal to men. As for your friends motherinlaw, she is perseon who does not want to accept that her son has a problem and thus she blames your friend.
Edited by prakriti - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dimdim

From what I read in ur message. The fault lies equally with your FRIEND as much as her MIL.... The MIL ofcourse having the upper hand... You say in your posting you WONDER why the MIL does that... don't you ever wonder WHY is your FRIEND taking this kind of treatment...????If she loves her husband and is happy then they should just move out of the JOINT FAMILY house... otherwise she has to retort to other options.

Why is your FRIEND tolerating this kind of SUPPRESSION. WHy cant she fight for her own rights ? Does she expect her husband to fight for her and raise his voice against his own mom. Such things don't happen .

Firstly she needs to CONFIDE in her hubby and let him know exactly how she feels... very important. If she is fortunate enough he may even support her for that she needs to start the process...

I always think we shouldn't let ANYONE take UNFAIR advantage of us... We need to SPEAK up clear and loud and voice our OPINIONS when we think something is WRONG.

It all boils down to the simple fact that young GIRLS in our culture/ SUB CONTINENT are encouraged to being submissive . They are brought up with the idea of ADJUSTING and COMPROMISING right from childhood.... and thats what they do all their lives...

Amy... IF your FRIEND is nice to her MIL... it only means that she has probably reached a stage where she has resigned to it and accepted it.

If she doesn't feel the need to correct the situations.. No one else can help her. GOD helps those who help themselves....

Dimdim, my friend does not live in a joint family. She lives in another country with her husband only. The sad part is, that her mother-in-law says all this to her over the phone. She's so far away from her mother-in-law and this still happens... things can't get worse.

Edited by amy22 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: amy22

Amy, I am glad your friend is far away from this lady. Rest assured just ask her to IGNORE the comments. No matter its best to retort to SELECTIVE listening... .

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Women are held responsible for everything, bcuz its a male dominated world, and bcuz honestly..most of the women in our counties allow this to happen.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Rule of paying it forward..
kyonki Saans bhi kabhee bahu thee.. a bahu, who unfortunately din;t rise to become a better person / mom in law. 😕

even from 10,000 miles away, a woman can make another woman miserable. I unfortunately know how.
Edited by mermaid_QT - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I think a women is the worst enemy of nother women .If we see in families too 90% of the problems are between-Saas-Bahu,Nanad Bhabhi,Devrani-Jethani,I thing we hardly hear men having problems with women like sasur-bahi kinds.

As a women we should realise this and find the root coz of the problem and try solving it.

Amy;According to me your friend here is independently living in another country away from her MIL ,firstly she can ignore those comments,if she cannot talk to her she should talk to her husband and try to solve this problem .If nothing works then i think she can tell her MIL that she will tell the relatives that her son has a problem and show them the medical reports,I know this is a little rude but believe me this can help.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I shd have visited this thread before the debate competition 😆

Weel Jokes Apart,

I have a situation in my relatives house, where my sister in law was blamed for not giving the waris. They just ignored... ignored .... ignored and now are adopting a child, who will surely go without the love of their grandparents. because grandparents has got a child from the second son.....

But its not that only she was held respnosible. Even their son has nearly ended all the relations as he was also held responsible....It may be the case in ur friend's house but it is not universal case..... 😃

I feel your friend should know to answer back..... The taunts would keep coming but if she loves her husband she will not keep it in her heart, because though the taunt is made at her, husband would feel more guilty.... and I hope he loves her too..... otherwise I pity for her 😕

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