The Big Picture: My thoughts on 2012/12/28

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Posted: 13 years ago
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The Big Picture:

Nature vs. Nurture


Hey guys, bear with me a little as I ramble.😳 My professor always encouraged us to step back and try to see the big picture. That is what I did and here are some thoughts...


I found today's epi to be a study in nature vs. nurture. For the uninitiated, nature vs. nurture has to do with what makes us the way we are as individuals. Is our personality something that we are born with, something that is inherent (nature) or does it come from our upbringing and our surroundings, from what we have learned along the course of life (nurture)? The same issue is talked about with regard to intelligence.


Now I'd like to extend this concept to the actions of BV and our beloved AnSh.


Sumitra & Daadisa - today both of their personalities acted on a "natural" plane. J, no matter how he is, what he is or what he has done they will always love him and have a soft corner for him. That doesn't mean they will always agree with or condone his actions but the "love" will always be there! It is a natural/inherent/inborn something...that's just the way it is...but how they deal with it is what matters.


Same can be said for Shiv, he was also acting on a "natural" plane today...taking what, somewhere along the line, he believes is the instinctive next step in their relationship...or trying to at least. He is a man...who just got married to the LOVE of his life and wants to be with her. Therese nothing wrong with that is there?


Anandi's behavior on the other hand was "nurture". She is so scared of advancing...of taking that next step. Why? Because of what she has learned from her past experience with J. Like Suchi mentioned, she associates sex with abandonment because she has only ever been with one other man in her lifetime and that is what he did to her...consummated their marriage and then left her for another woman. With only an experience as horrible as this to draw conclusions from why the hell shouldn't she be terrified to move forward with Shiv?


So Anandi and Shiv...neither of them are wrong in their actions and reactions. But here again how the issue is dealt with is what matters. Now how to move forward? What to do?


Communication is the key. They need to talk about it. In my mind Shiv just knows the gist of what Anandi has gone through in life...married off as a kid and then her husband leaving her for another woman. He does not know the deeper betrayals she has faced...of J consummating their marriage and then her having to watch him with Gauri etc. etc. He needs to know this so he can give her the space she needs which I am sure he will.


I am 100% sure that if they sit and talk then things will fall into place. It doesn't have to be some OTT conversation or anything like that...just a simple heart to heart like the one they had when they became best friends.


Anyways, whatever happens I am glad the CVs are keeping it real even if its frustrating! 😆


Okay, that's all folks..for now! If you made it through all my chapar chapar then you're a brave soul! Thanks for lending an ear! 😳 And since you were brave enough to tolerate all my ramblings why not leave a comment? 😃

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Vedo 🤗
I think few hours before in the AT, me, you and Aparna were the only ones who didnt mind the precap so much...due to the same simple reasons you just mentioned...
Its just the precursor of what is to come in the near future...
Shivji waiting...and Anandi taking the first step...
Atleast now, Anandi would know that she has to actually 'move on with Shiv'...
Though it was surprising...but still...BV CVs ki JAY HO!!!
They are surely having the last laugh...!!!
Their mission is accomplished!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: QuagMyred

Vedo 🤗

I think few hours before in the AT, me, you and Aparna were the only ones who didnt mind the precap so much...due to the same simple reasons you just mentioned...
Its just the precursor of what is to come in the near future...
Shivji waiting...and Anandi taking the first step...
Atleast now, Anandi would know that she has to actually 'move on with Shiv'...
Though it was surprising...but still...BV CVs ki JAY HO!!!
They are surely having the last laugh...!!!
Their mission is accomplished!!!

M 🤗 Yes we certainly were! 😆 Samay ka pher na like you said?

Haan CVs ki jai ho...we're in for an emotional ride! 😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Emotional...Yeah!!!
As Anjy mentioned abt the stepping up...I am sure Anandi will be more guilty now...
And will try to take that one step...
All I can say is...his 2nd night might not be that far away...
And I am looking at the positives...
One of them is...SY totally rocked it!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My thoughts (and I am really hoping that this is what the precap will lead to) are that the next few months will be played Hum Dil De chike hain Sanam style, with Shivjee being supportive and not making any advances towards Ajee and Ajee finally realising her love and initiating the whole thing. Please no Shivjee turning negative crap, he may act like Devdas but pleazzzeee BV's, no negative Shivjee, that will be a big let down and no Anandi returning to jaggu!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: QuagMyred

Emotional...Yeah!!!

As Anjy mentioned abt the stepping up...I am sure Anandi will be more guilty now...Yes she will...she already was a little even before marriage when she told Sumi she feels as if she's being unfair to him.
And will try to take that one step...
All I can say is...his 2nd night might not be that far away...
And I am looking at the positives...
One of them is...SY totally rocked it!!! Not just yours...mines too! ☺️


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananhita

My thoughts (and I am really hoping that this is what the precap will lead to) are that the next few months will be played Hum Dil De chike hain Sanam style, with Shivjee being supportive and not making any advances towards Ajee and Ajee finally realising her love and initiating the whole thing. That is acceptable to me...but I don't want him to completely close himself off from her...that's why the talk is so important to me.That is acceptable to me...but I don't want him to completely close himself off from her...that's why the talk is so important to me.That is acceptable to me...but I don't want him to completely close himself off from her...that's why the talk is so important to me.

Please no Shivjee turning negative crap, he may act like Devdas but pleazzzeee BV's, no negative Shivjee, that will be a big let down and no Anandi returning to jaggu!!! I didn't even think about that for one minute nor do I want to! 😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now jagya will have a new wife ganga so don't worry about jaan reunion. Bv did not spend 3 months wedding to show the wedding does not work. Ansh might have MU but shiv turning negative will not happen. People will shut the colors show going into their office.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good morning Vedo!

I love the random musings of V!

I am totally in agreement... It is a game of learning, teaching, and experiencing.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vedo

The Big Picture:

Nature vs. Nurture

Anandi's behavior on the other hand was "nurture". She is so scared of advancing...of taking that next step. Why? Because of what she has learned from her past experience with J. Like Suchi mentioned, she associates sex with abandonment because she has only ever been with one other man in her lifetime and that is what he did to her...consummated their marriage and then left her for another woman. With only an experience as horrible as this to draw conclusions from why the hell shouldn't she be terrified to move forward with Shiv?



Very nice analysis and agree with you.

Perfect analysis of Anandi's behavior. When Shive gifted the photgraph of her parents, somehow I felt she suppressed her filling of affection for him and persisted with her 'respect and...' dialogues

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