Sad, but TRUE fact... - Page 4

Created

Last reply

Replies

39

Views

5.2k

Users

13

Likes

55

Frequent Posters

-desigirl- thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: akanna



I agree about Karan's costumes! LOL, he had the same design, and that one also looked like one outfit TL had worn on DID once... It made him look awkward too when he did something outside Kathak, even a fusion with Kathak didnt look good in that outfit... Yes, his performance on the elimination day was very good... His auditions were also very good, he made a mark with it, and made our hopes go high for him... He got injured before the mega audition, and I think he might have had pains but still had to perform, and so his performances might have got affected... I didnt understand how a dancer can perform within a week of having a broken leg?!

You mean Soumita, right? She was the best on JD!!!! OMG, that girl used to take my breath away with her extraordinary expressions!! And I was mad when she ended up with jaundice when I was sure she will be a finalist!! They should have let her participate in the finale... 😔

i totally agree about Karan ... Karan was everyones fav during auditions but after that he was a big disappointment ... i think the reason he got out was coz if he came in top 12 [or whatever top which he had left before'] he had to sign a contract with star plus for a year .. and he couldnt do that coz he lived in the UK and i guess he didn't wanna stay in India
i think Just Dance was a show where the winner was totally unexpected .. even hours before the finales they had told people to tell that Surjeet won 😆 when Ankan won it was totally shocking to everyone .. but i think that's a smart move from the channel to show that it's not scripted
246851 thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf


Not at all Tannistha. Hard work and determination ALWAYS pays off..sometimes in the short run and sometimes in the long term. I think what these dance schools are doing is just amazing, hence the constant praise lol. Have you heard of Shiamak's Victory Arts Foundation? It's basically a class for kids with special needs. Recently, he's set up VAF in the UK and those kids are AMAZING! I couldn't get through their performance without crying like a baby. Shiamak does not dare take a single penny from those kids and those classes are open to any kid with special needs..no special criteria that looks at how well off you are.

In regards to 'ordinary' people who audition but don't succeed. My advice to them is try and try until you succeed, some day you surely will. Check out SPB batch - these guys perform with all the stars e.g. SRK, do private functions, perform at awards (wherever IIFA is held, SPB students from SDIPA will perform) and do a lot lot more and don't pay any more than what a regular student pays for in a term. Those SPB auditions are held at least two-three times a year so it's a brilliant opportunity for someone who is serious about a career in dance.

At the end of the day..I can't imagine dance classes being free for all. Dance teachers have a family to feed too but their fees are still half the price of international fees. Maybe still not quite affordable to some but a lot of local dance teachers don't charge anywhere near as much. But of course, they don't provide the same opportunities either.


true, true,. I agree that the dance schools do are amazing and yes hard work always pays. But u see shiamak will be based mostly in the big cities. Now where do the people from small towns go, if they have resources they will come to big cities and get their chance. What if they do not have resources? These academies are fine but they will have limited resources to cater for dance lovers with limited means in a country like India. that is what I am saying, So where do all these people go who want to do something, are hardworking, try their best but just really do not have the opportunity to get the guidence? Offcourse local schools are not bad, but there are so many local teachers who come to did auditions, who themselves do not know most of the things, what will their students learn? offcourse if u have it in you, you can still make it, like dharmesh or amar.
you are right, if someone wants to take dance seriously as option, he or she will find the way, like chhotu lohar for example. But i feel, consider me stupid, but luck does play a factor in it too.

I cannot imagine either dance classes being free. That would be expecting something out of the world to happen. Besides no one takes the knowledge seriously when it is distributed for free.

Tell me about international fees. even an ordinary dance studio in a small town charges like 100 euro for one semester or 3 month dance course once a week. India is like heaven in comparison.
hindu4lyf thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Tannistha


true, true,. I agree that the dance schools do are amazing and yes hard work always pays. But u see shiamak will be based mostly in the big cities. Now where do the people from small towns go, if they have resources they will come to big cities and get their chance. What if they do not have resources? These academies are fine but they will have limited resources to cater for dance lovers with limited means in a country like India. that is what I am saying, So where do all these people go who want to do something, are hardworking, try their best but just really do not have the opportunity to get the guidence? Offcourse local schools are not bad, but there are so many local teachers who come to did auditions, who themselves do not know most of the things, what will their students learn? offcourse if u have it in you, you can still make it, like dharmesh or amar.
you are right, if someone wants to take dance seriously as option, he or she will find the way, like chhotu lohar for example. But i feel, consider me stupid, but luck does play a factor in it too.

I cannot imagine either dance classes being free. That would be expecting something out of the world to happen. Besides no one takes the knowledge seriously when it is distributed for free.

Tell me about international fees. even an ordinary dance studio in a small town charges like 100 euro for one semester or 3 month dance course once a week. India is like heaven in comparison.


I guess what I meant to say is..where there is a will, one shall find their way. If someone is really that determined about learning dance then they will do whatever it takes - whether that be get a job, or work 2-3 jobs, or find some other form of income so that they can go to the big cities and get the training that is needed for them to truly be successful.

Definitely, there is always that factor of luck. But I've always believed that luck favours the bold! ;) if one is not willing to take the risk, then one cannot expect much in return either. Hiring dance studios is not a big issue for the dance companies, because they easily recover the money if they have a clue of 10-15 students. Honestly though, I feel it's hard to put a price on that standard of training you receive with some brilliant dance teachers who don't just teach you a dance routine, but push you to the edge and tell you how to improve your technique. :)
akanna thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 13 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Tannistha

nope, i mean sharmistha, she was another girl selected in top 21 but then booted out coz she was sick with jaundice and surjit replaced him.
soumita with her sob stories all the time and fake stuff about learning stretching and comtemporary all by her own made me dislike her right from day 1, and that onwards she was puke worthy for me. Not to mention her simple choreography, monotonous expressions and nothing notable dance was highlighted so much and unenecssarily praised. and she did laga chunari and said it was her idea when it was completley kruti's act she copied and that too a pirated cam rip copy. I remember some saumita fan trashing me in JD forum, but honestly i couldn't stand her at all. Jaundice or not , she deserved to be booted out way before, thank god for the small mercies.
Sorry i detested her dances, all of them, and the blatant show of favoritism to her pisses me off big time. You can see i am quite passionate about disliking her.



I dont recall Sharmistha, but then I didnt watch all the audition episodes, as I missed some... I dont watch Star Plus usually, so missed the commercials about the show.. I think I started to watch it from top 21 onwards, when Saroj and Terence came in to train them for a day or two... That explains how Surjit returned! They were showing of him getting a second chance, and I didnt understand the whole story!! Surjit reminded me of Amar... 😃

Soumita's sob stories? I didnt understand a lot of things that went on that show... People coming, crying and hugging, I didnt get it, plus I used to get up and take a break from watching each time they have the saga like that, as I wanted to watch the dances only... I am trying to recall the Chunari act... I dont remember, so I might have missed that one.. Since I didnt set a reminder on my DVR, by the time I watch the show, the episode would have started, many times... Kruti's chunari act was choreographed by TL, she should have acknowledged it! I thought Soumita is a trained classical dancer... 😕 Didnt they say that... She looked like one of my friend, that could be why I liked her so much... Maybe also that she was the only girl left towards the finale, plus she said she is a classical dancer... I liked her expressions too... I wasnt active much on JD forum...

LOL, I have no complaints, and I understand how you feel... I do feel the same about some contestants on some shows, so I know... 😃
akanna thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 13 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: -desigirl-

i totally agree about Karan ... Karan was everyones fav during auditions but after that he was a big disappointment ... i think the reason he got out was coz if he came in top 12 [or whatever top which he had left before'] he had to sign a contract with star plus for a year .. and he couldnt do that coz he lived in the UK and i guess he didn't wanna stay in India

i think Just Dance was a show where the winner was totally unexpected .. even hours before the finales they had told people to tell that Surjeet won 😆 when Ankan won it was totally shocking to everyone .. but i think that's a smart move from the channel to show that it's not scripted



LOL, I didnt know there was false news like that.. Ankan was too good, and well deserved... I really wish he comes on DID one day... And Rajit too... 😳

So that means some people are shown the door due to contract issues...
246851 thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: akanna



I dont recall Sharmistha, but then I didnt watch all the audition episodes, as I missed some... I dont watch Star Plus usually, so missed the commercials about the show.. I think I started to watch it from top 21 onwards, when Saroj and Terence came in to train them for a day or two... That explains how Surjit returned! They were showing of him getting a second chance, and I didnt understand the whole story!! Surjit reminded me of Amar... 😃

Soumita's sob stories? I didnt understand a lot of things that went on that show... People coming, crying and hugging, I didnt get it, plus I used to get up and take a break from watching each time they have the saga like that, as I wanted to watch the dances only... I am trying to recall the Chunari act... I dont remember, so I might have missed that one.. Since I didnt set a reminder on my DVR, by the time I watch the show, the episode would have started, many times... Kruti's chunari act was choreographed by TL, she should have acknowledged it! I thought Soumita is a trained classical dancer... 😕 Didnt they say that... She looked like one of my friend, that could be why I liked her so much... Maybe also that she was the only girl left towards the finale, plus she said she is a classical dancer... I liked her expressions too... I wasnt active much on JD forum...

LOL, I have no complaints, and I understand how you feel... I do feel the same about some contestants on some shows, so I know... 😃


oh a lot hugs kisses went on the show and lots of backdoor stuff, it was blatantly obvious at times. but it was pretty sure from day1 ankan was gonna win, although he landed in bottom a couple of times, still he was always the one who stood out end of the day. no complains, he delivered
saumita does kathak, she ruined it for me. I never liked kathak to begin with, kaahe chhed and terrence reignited my interest in it, and saumita murdered everything i felt for kathak. Only now i am regaining my love back. Not to mention Vaibhavi and saumita going on and on about kathak pissed me. big time. Not coz of kathak, but coz they equated Indian classical dance with Kathak, placed all importance on it and never ever showed any other dance form( except kruti shah doing some semi classical), and termed saumita as a competent classical dancer based on the tid bit kathak( very simple basic repetitive ones) she did and some semi classical crap. As a bharatnatyam and manipuri dancer i felt cheated. So maybe most of my anger is directed at the blatant ignorant attitude of the show makers, judges and unworthy praise to someone for not what they are exactly.

saumita didn't steal kruti's steps except the idea of using the churni. She could have never done those steps. those were i think kuchipudi steps ( although they looked like bharatnaytam to me but then basic steps of both are very similar) neither could she match the choreography and expression. She stole the concept about oppressed woman and their pain and declared on vt that she set the choreography herself. May or Maynot, but her expressions didn't match up either.

Saumita's father died when she was a kid, and she and her mother were thrown out of their house by her father's relatives i think. After almost every single act she would sob about her hard struggle. I understand, its highly unfortunate and i was completely sympathetic. But she was using her life's tragedy as a bargaining chip. I hated that. All of us have some or other form of struggles. We dont go on using it as a bargaining chip. there was another girl, this sharmistha, same kolkata audition, similar struggling background, sole earning member of family i think. But she said that after she finished her audition and with a smile and said i am willing to work hard to do better. Saumita began with my life is so pathetic and sorry, i need your sympathy.

her dancing skills were just above average and so was her kathak knowledge. kruti did a better kathak in albela sajan.Then again,it was Terrence who created it.
-desigirl- thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: akanna



LOL, I didnt know there was false news like that.. Ankan was too good, and well deserved... I really wish he comes on DID one day... And Rajit too... 😳

So that means some people are shown the door due to contract issues...

they can't coz they have a contract with Just Dance
but yeh rajit was my fav ... he's really good but due to his health he couldn't do his best Ouch bad luck otherwise i wanted him to win😭
dooba87 thumbnail
Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#38
I find it really hard to believe that the show is scripted and that neither MithunDa/ or the audience decides who goes out. After watching the performances on tv, it makes perfect sense that the eliminated person deserved to be out. Like yday's performace, in totality Riddika and Shafeer were relatively weak compared to the rest. Riddika lacked energy to a great deal! And Shafeers's expressions were weak.

They are all good in their own respective ways (in totality) but based on the individual's performance on a particular day- the eliminated one's were weak compared to all.

About Hardeek and Abheek, that was a very tough call. They both did really well in my opinion. Hopefully, Hardik will come back via Wild Card!

Just my thoughts...
Edited by dooba87 - 13 years ago
akanna thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 13 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: -desigirl-

they can't coz they have a contract with Just Dance
but yeh rajit was my fav ... he's really good but due to his health he couldn't do his best bad luck otherwise i wanted him to win😭



Yes, Rajit was one of my fav, I loved both Ankan and Rajit and wanted them to have a tie! Both were so versatile too.. It was bad that Rajit ended up with jaundice when he was closer to the Finale...

btw, if they have a contract with JD and cant come to DID, how come BW winners and contestants come for DID then? Dont they have any contract with BW show then? It's not fair, restricting the chances of aspiring artists with some contracts like that...
akanna thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 13 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Tannistha


oh a lot hugs kisses went on the show and lots of backdoor stuff, it was blatantly obvious at times. but it was pretty sure from day1 ankan was gonna win, although he landed in bottom a couple of times, still he was always the one who stood out end of the day. no complains, he delivered
saumita does kathak, she ruined it for me. I never liked kathak to begin with, kaahe chhed and terrence reignited my interest in it, and saumita murdered everything i felt for kathak. Only now i am regaining my love back. Not to mention Vaibhavi and saumita going on and on about kathak pissed me. big time. Not coz of kathak, but coz they equated Indian classical dance with Kathak, placed all importance on it and never ever showed any other dance form( except kruti shah doing some semi classical), and termed saumita as a competent classical dancer based on the tid bit kathak( very simple basic repetitive ones) she did and some semi classical crap. As a bharatnatyam and manipuri dancer i felt cheated. So maybe most of my anger is directed at the blatant ignorant attitude of the show makers, judges and unworthy praise to someone for not what they are exactly.

saumita didn't steal kruti's steps except the idea of using the churni. She could have never done those steps. those were i think kuchipudi steps ( although they looked like bharatnaytam to me but then basic steps of both are very similar) neither could she match the choreography and expression. She stole the concept about oppressed woman and their pain and declared on vt that she set the choreography herself. May or Maynot, but her expressions didn't match up either.

Saumita's father died when she was a kid, and she and her mother were thrown out of their house by her father's relatives i think. After almost every single act she would sob about her hard struggle. I understand, its highly unfortunate and i was completely sympathetic. But she was using her life's tragedy as a bargaining chip. I hated that. All of us have some or other form of struggles. We dont go on using it as a bargaining chip. there was another girl, this sharmistha, same kolkata audition, similar struggling background, sole earning member of family i think. But she said that after she finished her audition and with a smile and said i am willing to work hard to do better. Saumita began with my life is so pathetic and sorry, i need your sympathy.

her dancing skills were just above average and so was her kathak knowledge. kruti did a better kathak in albela sajan.Then again,it was Terrence who created it.



Oh that was the story of Soumita... I didnt understand a lot of things said as they were not in Hindi.. My Hindi itself is in very poor shape! I agree with ya, all people have some kind of struggle in life, if not financial struggle, there would be emotional struggle...

Yes, I also liked Ankan a lot... Ankan and Rajit were my top picks, but unfortunately Rajit ended up with jaundice just before the semi-finals... Felt bad for him... Both of them were so versatile, so would have loved to see them both in the finale, and I didnt like that Karan Khanna guy!

Soumita didnt do a pure Kathak form, did she? I felt her act was more semi-classical... In fact I think Karan Pangali did a better Kathak act on JD... Yes, Kruti's one was also very good, plus her expressions were mindblowing... So was Vrushali's in DID1, again done by Terence... 😃

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".