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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: venture

Rajni being a wife did not agreed to Inder,s move and it was granted, but Suhana saying that she doesnt want to move to Mumbai was shssht , as Ishaan wanted that, did Inder had no ambitions to move forward. I think CV forgot themsleves what they said or did earlier.



Suhana's reason for not moving to Mumbai was like a girl telling her parents "I don't want to get married as I will have to move out of my house". But parents still force the girl to get married as they know it will eventually be good for her.
But Rajni's case was different, Inder in that case was going alone.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tejesh once you are out of your country , there is no going back, I am telling you from my experience , successful or not , you get use to of the comforts , also depends where you go ! but thinking that once you are abroad its all rosy rosy , its not , they make you work like dogs and there is no loyalty , I have seen from both both sides, from employees side, and employers as well, in quite a lot of things, goras needs to learn from us, just as we need to learn from them, in our culture , most of the people are loyal to there company or to owners , here they dont care , all in the name of employees right !! ready to sue at the first opportunity.

Regarding my point for Suhana, I knew I would hear that !! but I had to say it ! Even if Inder was going alone, he was going for a year to train and he could have said what Ishaan said , but he didnt , his priority was different then Ishaan just like Ishaan. It all depends on your priorities, we cant have everything, we loose one or the other at some stage, those who are successsful in there own country , I honestly envy them and salute there hard work ( or Inherritence )
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: venture

Tejesh once you are out of your country , there is no going back, I am telling you from my experience , successful or not , you get use to of the comforts , also depends where you go ! but thinking that once you are abroad its all rosy rosy , its not , they make you work like dogs and there is no loyalty , I have seen from both both sides, from employees side, and employers as well, in quite a lot of things, goras needs to learn from us, just as we need to learn from them, in our culture , most of the people are loyal to there company or to owners , here they dont care , all in the name of employees right !! ready to sue at the first opportunity.


Regarding my point for Suhana, I knew I would hear that !! but I had to say it ! Even if Inder was going alone, he was going for a year to train and he could have said what Ishaan said , but he didnt , his priority was different then Ishaan just like Ishaan. It all depends on your priorities, we cant have everything, we loose one or the other at some stage, those who are successsful in there own country , I honestly envy them and salute there hard work ( or Inherritence )

@ bold: This is completely true!! 👏 Even my family and I, when we moved here, we got too used to this type of lifestyle, comforts, etc, etc...that whenever my dad would go to India he'd always want to come back here after a week because he's gotten so used to the lifestyle here. Once you settle down somewhere it's usually difficult to go back to your roots.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As u said aunty, it must be true in most of the cases. But I have seen my uncles staying true to their word and coming back after 5 years of work abroad. It all depends on the individual. As they say its easy to flow with the wind and do what the world is doing but still there are people who go against the wind and are still very happy and satisfied both professionally and personally.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tejeshec

As u said aunty, it must be true in most of the cases. But I have seen my uncles staying true to their word and coming back after 5 years of work abroad. It all depends on the individual. As they say its easy to flow with the wind and do what the world is doing but still there are people who go against the wind and are still very happy and satisfied both professionally and personally.


You are 100% right, there are people like that. I wish I was one of them !! I guess it all depends on individuals and there priorities. I simply admire those people who keep there words and try to balance family and personal life equally.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: venture

reguser, good to see you after a long time, I remember reading your very interesting post last year. Savi , I fully agree with your points.

Sometimes we do want to say things and give our opinions as we get scared or shy that we will be shussht by every one, Rano feels the same as most of the time she cant convey the message clearly, but so many times her worries and analyses were right , e.g regarding Suhana earlier, she was worried about how she would adjust coming from rich background, it was a very valid and practicle point, there were other ocassions too, she even picked Sona,s intervention in Suhana and Ishaan in one of the episode when Alok had a toothache. So her outburst was justified, because she was in so much pain, every mother is different, some are emotionally strong and let there children leave there nest with open mind, some dont, and you cant call them emotional , after all its there way of showing love, they cant bare there son to leave, so many examples around us. What we do is up to us , how we do is up to us, but people who cant let there children go should not be termed as emotional fool, or coming in the way of there success, success is not always about financial gains or position, people do well in there own city,s and country, so many examples. I am not pointing any fingers or anything, please dont take it that way, as I would do exactly what Alok and BM did for Ishaan, if a child wants to leave I would never stop, as if he has decided and I stop him , then rather then loving me the same way he would resent me all his life saying " Aap nay Mujhay Agay Bhadnay Nahi Diya " and that would be last thing I would like to hear.
It makes me so happy to have discussions like that, where we learn to agree to disagree.
I would really want all the discussions to be discussions not something else.

One more point I want to remind that during the first few episodes, Inder had to go to Germany for a year for training and after that he would have been promoted, Rajni got scared that he would not come back, BM overheard her and said that " Jo baap nay kiya zaroori nahi kay Baita bhi Karay" but she said to Inder that he should not go and Inder didnt go . What was that ????? Rajni being a wife did not agreed to Inder,s move and it was granted, but Suhana saying that she doesnt want to move to Mumbai was shssht , as Ishaan wanted that, did Inder had no ambitions to move forward. I think CV forgot themsleves what they said or did earlier.



this is a dilemma many a family faces these days... the young ones want to make something of their lives which they think can only be achieved if they go abroad... parents do not want them to leave the family fearing they will not come back... solving this dilemma sometimes ends in happiness but sometimes even leads to breakup of the parents...
inder wanted to go abroad for training but it involved leaving rajni and meetha behind and that situation was exactly like BP... in the case of ishaan.. suhana was going with him so the danger of suhana becoming another BM was less likely.. but of course the fear was their...BM and Alok were ready to take the risk as Ishaan desperately wanted to try out his wings... at first Rano was swayed by theri arguments.. but when sushaans absence hit her , all her pent up emotions erupted like a volcano..
my immediate family faced the same situation when my eldest was 18 and wanted to go to study in america... once a kid goes there there is very little chance for him to come back ... then my second also wanted to go .. at that time my husband would not agree at all and that was the time i faced the dilemma.. his argument was that at least one son shoudl remain with us for our old age...but to deprive my second his chance to make something out of his life while the first was given the chance seemed unfair to me... my argument was to let him make a life for himself then we can always join him when we retire... but to selfishly force him to stay with us as a support for our old age..was not fair to him ... he may have agreed to stay back but after we die then what...? truthfully speaking this created a rift in our relationship which hasnt been bridged as yet ... but at least both my children have made a life for themselves.. are married and happy... i still wonder did i make the right decision... would appreciate comments.. sorry for being so boring but i got carried away
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Posted: 13 years ago
#67
very nice discussion going on..😊 the situation is so very real and iam waiting to see the continuation of the scene today...iam sure it was be very good..

regarding Rano and regarding this particular situation of Ishaan going to Mumbai, Rano was there when Alok and BM made the decision. Ifshe had any problem she could have raised at that time. She is raising it now just becos she is missing Ishaan. Alok and BM are not outsiders who wont listen to Rano's views. Rano had to take her opportunity and tell her feelings when she wants to. About BM and Alok not considering Rano, yes they have not been considering because Rano has given the perception that she dont want to give her opinions or she is happy with BM and Alok making decisions. But yes, it would have been nice if BM and Alok at least have Rano during decisions.

i know whatever i said has already been said...😆 bt just felt like posting it...😊

@sheema di...i forgot about that Inder part...bt i think may be BM did nt want him to go as she wnts him to take responsibilities at home with Alok, as Ilesh too wasnt working then.Yes the fear would have been there too...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Regarding Inder,s case, if Inder really wanted that , he would have made the family understand, but just like Alok, he changed his dreams to make the family,s dream come true, Ishaan wanted to go so he went, eventually he would have gone at some point.
Shillu, jee I fully agree with you, this dillema is really true, my heart really goes out to my Mother in law when she says good bi,s to her sons once they visit her for a week, 2 week 3 week in a year! my heart really melts, as I could see the pain, she never tried to stop any of her sons, all six of them , as they all made the decision themselves, and she was not part of it, as being a pure old style desi, father in law said fine and she was the last person to know.
I am mentally ready as well , one day my three would do exactly the same. This is life.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: venture

Regarding Inder,s case, if Inder really wanted that , he would have made the family understand, but just like Alok, he changed his dreams to make the family,s dream come true, Ishaan wanted to go so he went, eventually he would have gone at some point.

Shillu, jee I fully agree with you, this dillema is really true, my heart really goes out to my Mother in law when she says good bi,s to her sons once they visit her for a week, 2 week 3 week in a year! my heart really melts, as I could see the pain, she never tried to stop any of her sons, all six of them , as they all made the decision themselves, and she was not part of it, as being a pure old style desi, father in law said fine and she was the last person to know.
I am mentally ready as well , one day my three would do exactly the same. This is life.



we desis have this love of family and want the children to stay together even sometimes when the kid is a nikatthu... doesnt earn anything but is still loved by the parents and protected from being made fun of such as ilesh used to be... but in foreign specially the states the kids are expected to move out as soon as they become adults or expected to pay their share of living expenses if they choose to stay at home...i guess thats why we indians are a unique breed...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: venture

Tejesh once you are out of your country , there is no going back, I am telling you from my experience , successful or not , you get use to of the comforts , also depends where you go ! but thinking that once you are abroad its all rosy rosy , its not , they make you work like dogs and there is no loyalty , I have seen from both both sides, from employees side, and employers as well, in quite a lot of things, goras needs to learn from us, just as we need to learn from them, in our culture , most of the people are loyal to there company or to owners , here they dont care , all in the name of employees right !! ready to sue at the first opportunity.


Regarding my point for Suhana, I knew I would hear that !! but I had to say it ! Even if Inder was going alone, he was going for a year to train and he could have said what Ishaan said , but he didnt , his priority was different then Ishaan just like Ishaan. It all depends on your priorities, we cant have everything, we loose one or the other at some stage, those who are successsful in there own country , I honestly envy them and salute there hard work ( or Inherritence )



at this point i would like to differ... inder decided to put his family before his dreams... because he was getting the right treatment.. he had individuality which was respected by the family... he was treated like an adult who could make the right decisions and be the support of his chachu...
but in ishaans case.. he was always treated like a kid... he had no individuality..being married but still always treated like a kid... always facing the thapad marunga from his father... remember when he came back from his honeymoon still what did alok do ankhon ankhon me kusti and poor ishaan as usual ducked to avoid his fathers imaginary thapad ...
ishaans dream is to make something of his life that he could get the right treatment and respect from his family... he wants to grow up and get treated like an adult... so you cannot relate inders situation with ishaans...

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