Gulaal and her reactions ?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dear Gulaal friends,

I am usually a silent member. I watch very few shows and started watching Gulaal recently. I was watching Maryada for few initial days and soon the serial turned un-interesting for me. Right now, only Gulaal is holding my interest and I really hope they don't take some illogical turn.

Today's episode forced me to write something. They are some questions arising in my mind. Before that I would like thank the person who wrote the topic "A True story". She really said lot of things which I wanted to say too. In my earlier topic I made an half hearted attempt with similar intension. I feel most of us are not understanding Gulaal and where she is coming from. But her topic made it quite clear to many of us. Thanks to her and her mom..

Coming to today's episode:

1) First striking point to me is that, Gulaal is speaking to Kesar in a way similar to the way she spoke to Dushyant on the night he kidnapped her. I mean almost similar.


This is surprising to me because, how in the world can she visualize the two men in the same way? One is a man while the other is the kid that she herself has developed. Her agony might be same, but the persons causing it are different and so are their circumstances.


2) Gulaal has been a mother to Kesar. Yes, in a way this is true. That might be 10 years back, but it was true. Please don't think here, I am against Kes-Gulaal. If you see the Sanskrit Vachanas of wife, it says a wife is a mother, is a guide is a Ramba and so on and those are quite meaningful. But the point I want to make here, there is absolutely no influence of that point in any of her reactions/interactions. I mean Kesar keeps saying "My tera Kesar hoon", which gives us a jhalak of that. But Gulaal I dont see any jhalak of it except for one conversation (in which we can see a partial glimpse in that way) in which she said, "Yeh Pyaar nahi, naadaaniyat hai".

So, my main point is: how is that the glimpses of her motherly relation with him have disappeared almost completely? She is almost behaving like he is just any other person, who is interested in her against her wishes.

There is only one possibility in my opinion. Is she is right now behaving in a shock?

However, this serial is raising some very interesting points and I hope it continues to amuse us.



Before, I finish I would like to add this point. This serial from the beginning has been about Kesar Gulaal. It is about their changing relationships in changing scenarios with changing times. I get this feeling on seeing the serial from almost the beginning. Rest of the characters (including Vasanth) I feel, are just there for shaping their story. And an interesting relation need always not be a usual love relation.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very nice article. I also think, she still may be going through shock of Dushant's cidnap. She see all man who propose her in same. I was very shocked to see todays app. I have posted it, being dissepointed on Gulaal character..
But it happens to people. If someone's lover bully too much, usually women can suffer from this trauma for years and it is possible that all man on earth can look like bullying towards her...She can have perception dissorder.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kvva

This serial from the beginning has been about Kesar Gulaal. It is about their changing relationships in changing scenarios with changing times. I get this feeling on seeing the serial from almost the beginning. Rest of the characters (including Vasanth) I feel, are just there for shaping their story. And an interesting relation need always not be a usual love relation.




Very nice post👏...especially agree about this paragraph...this show is indeed about Kesar-Gulaal and their evolving relationship with changing times in their lives...and for that very reason it is so beyond a typical romantic relationship...and that is the fascinating part.


Now coming to the question you've raised...It is indeed amazing that Gulaal has in essence KILLED the old Gulaal inside her who understood Kesar...there can be many reasons for this:


1) Gulaal isn't able to handle change well...she understood THAT Kesar that she could handle, the Kesar that was her friend, the Kesar that she was to protect as a guardian...THIS Kesar has EVOLVED...


2) Her harshness, her blocking out his constant pleas of understanding for TERA Kesar...to today reaching a whole new low of equating Kesar with Dushyant...is all because it makes it easier to spurn these "advances" of Kesar as she sees them...she's now in a stage of madness in my opinion...Everyone has seen Kesar's madness if Gulaal leaves him...but what we are seeing right now is Gulaal lashing out as a "caged tigress" so to speak...cuz SHE views herself as "caged"...a prisoner in a jail as she said today...and all this because SHE chooses to INTERPET it as so.

Kesar has not once indicated that he LUSTS after her...she has seen indications of his feelings evolving in a more romantic way...but never once has he made any overture towards her...what's amazing is that she CHOOSES not to see that INNOCENCE in him...the innocence and purity in his love for her...she is rather SPOOKED that he has grown to love her...

Kesar was meant to be her kavach...she used him as a shield that would allow her to live in the house and be able to live as Vasant's widow all her life...but Kesar changed...he grew up...Gulaal unfortunately is still stuck in the past and like I said in my first point...she can't handle change...least of all a change SHE can't be comfortable with or SHE didn't anticipate.

Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sama0023

Very nice article. I also think, she still may be going through shock of Dushant's cidnap. She see all man who propose her in same. I was very shocked to see todays app. I have posted it, being dissepointed on Gulaal character..

But it happens to people. If someone's lover bully too much, usually women can suffer from this trauma for years and it is possible that all man on earth can look like bullying towards her...She can have perception dissorder.



Thanks for replying. Actually I meant she was shocked by Kesar's revelations of his feelings. That is something too much for her in more than one front. This shock is so strong that, she almost forgot "her Kesar", fo whom she did many things. When I said "her Kesar" it is not actually in a love perspective. There exists a very interesting relation b/w the two and I meant that here. It is the same relation, that Keasar reminds Gulaal of many a times in various formats.

But, yes I agree with you that, her reactions in today's episode definitely seem to have quite some influence from her past experience.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Both times i guess she felt violated - right now i feel she is lost, back then and now are two different things isnt there, Kesar wasnt there for 10 yrs and so on,
If you look back on their journey from the leap, i guess all answer start from there, as you said, their changing relationships in changing scenarios with changing times, this is what each phase explains and makes us see...
If i go by the story right now, Gulaal seems to have lost something in her and you see that the way she walks in and says to all, that she feels alag from this house and so on, her atma and mann are so far away, it doesnt seem to be in this house anymore - and thats what i will go with...
And lets not forget Kesar's paagalpan-ness she has displayed to her and so on, and forced her to come back in the house...
I think somewhat agree with nureats post as well - she's said it all
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Lovely post, well honestly , she is confused and not able to understand K love for her , for her love is something which is suppose to be like her and vasanth , there will be a time when she would compare it with Vasanth for sure, ...I agree she went over board , k never for once said or did anything close to how D behaved and all , may be K love for her makes her think in that way , for him love is physical urge... after reading his letters this kind of reaction from her is not acceptable ,...

I have seen many shows and i know how they make u sympathize with female lead , but today nothing touched me all i was thinking was for kesar and was only concentrated for him , wanted him to react when she was giving bashan , ... well lets see how he reacts now
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01




Very nice post👏...especially agree about this paragraph...this show is indeed about Kesar-Gulaal and their evolving relationship with changing times in their lives...and for that very reason it is so beyond a typical romantic relationship...and that is the fascinating part.


Now coming to the question you've raised...It is indeed amazing that Gulaal has in essence KILLED the old Gulaal inside her who understood Kesar...there can be many reasons for this:


1) Gulaal isn't able to handle change well...she understood THAT Kesar that she could handle, the Kesar that was her friend, the Kesar that she was to protect as a guardian...THIS Kesar has EVOLVED...


2) Her harshness, her blocking out his constant pleas of understanding for TERA Kesar...to today reaching a whole new low of equating Kesar with Dushyant...is all because it makes it easier to spurn these "advances" of Kesar as she sees them...she's now in a stage of madness in my opinion...Everyone has seen Kesar's madness if Gulaal leaves him...but what we are seeing right now is Gulaal lashing out as a "caged tigress" so to speak...cuz SHE views herself as "caged"...a prisoner in a jail as she said today...and all this because SHE chooses to INTERPET it as so.

Kesar has not once indicated that he LUSTS after her...she has seen indications of his feelings evolving in a more romantic way...but never once has he made any overture towards her...what's amazing is that she CHOOSES not to see that INNOCENCE in him...the innocence and purity in his love for her...she is rather SPOOKED that he has grown to love her...

Kesar was meant to be her kavach...she used him as a shield that would allow her to live in the house and be able to live as Vasant's widow all her life...but Kesar changed...he grew up...Gulaal unfortunately is still stuck in the past and like I said in my first point...she can't handle change...least of all a change SHE can't be comfortable with or SHE didn't anticipate.



Wonderfully said. You kind of said explicitly what I was feeling inside me and was not able to bring it out.

Yes, it is a rebelous reaction and just kind of a mad black mailing towards Kesar. You are perfectly right, both of them are behaving quite out of control (todays episode Kesar though is mroe controlled). She blindly accusing Kesar, as she is mad now. Thanks. And yes, that Kesar grown in her own hands and has now completely gone out of her reach and is quite difficult for her to understand right now. But she is also qutie closed and I hope she slowly starts opening up.



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kvva



Thanks for replying. Actually I meant she was shocked by Kesar's revelations of his feelings. That is something too much for her in more than one front. This shock is so strong that, she almost forgot "her Kesar", fo whom she did many things. When I said "her Kesar" it is not actually in a love perspective. There exists a very interesting relation b/w the two and I meant that here. It is the same relation, that Keasar reminds Gulaal of many a times in various formats.

But, yes I agree with you that, her reactions in today's episode definitely seem to have quite some influence from her past experience.

I could understand your point.. Your writing is very precise and in dept..
Yes I was talking about something else.. I was thinking about todays behaviour in last 5 minutes, was quite shocking..I was trying to justify that 5 minutes...just as a discussion for discussion...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie

Both times i guess she felt violated - right now i feel she is lost, back then and now are two different things isnt there, Kesar wasnt there for 10 yrs and so on,

If you look back on their journey from the leap, i guess all answer start from there, as you said, their changing relationships in changing scenarios with changing times, this is what each phase explains and makes us see...
If i go by the story right now, Gulaal seems to have lost something in her and you see that the way she walks in and says to all, that she feels alag from this house and so on, her atma and mann are so far away, it doesnt seem to be in this house anymore - and thats what i will go with...
And lets not forget Kesar's paagalpan-ness she has displayed to her and so on, and forced her to come back in the house...
I think somewhat agree with nureats post as well - she's said it all



Hi Lennie, thanks for answering. Do you remember me? from SR times. I silently follow some of our SR friends and it is infact you who bought me to Gulaal and thanks for that. This is definitely a very thought provoking serial and I enjoy reading your and other friends posts (which I do quite regularly).

But I have a slightly different opinion for today's Gualaal's reaction. I think it is more of black mailing reaction. It is not exactly the way she felt, but it is more to inflict the pain she felt into Kesar. Thats why I think she did a part of it in the presence of every one and a greater part of it when they were alone (the later part also has influences because of her own natural reaction as she reacted to Dushyant). I see a parallel to my own reactions to my mother here. As a child, when I was upset with some things, I used to threaten to skip meals and blackmail my mother. I see similar reaction in Gulaal.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JustJ

Lovely post, well honestly , she is confused and not able to understand K love for her , for her love is something which is suppose to be like her and vasanth , there will be a time when she would compare it with Vasanth for sure, ...I agree she went over board , k never for once said or did anything close to how D behaved and all , may be K love for her makes her think in that way , for him love is physical urge... after reading his letters this kind of reaction from her is not acceptable ,...


I have seen many shows and i know how they make u sympathize with female lead , but today nothing touched me all i was thinking was for kesar and was only concentrated for him , wanted him to react when she was giving bashan , ... well lets see how he reacts now



Hey thanks. I think Kesar really reacted aptly. That "chii" was too good. I think those few words were more than sufficient and she really got back what she probably deserveres. Every action has a reaction and then the reaction gives rise to another one. Just that, here the actions/reactions are too strong and hence they both are going over board one after the other.

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