Ashamed of Archu's family

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't understand why these people don't understand the simple concept of grieving. Archana needed time to grieve the ending of her marriage, and she was never given the opportunity to before being pushed into another relationship. I know some people think she had over a year to grieve, but sometimes it takes a lifetime to grieve, and it's evident that Archu hadn't had proper time to grieve because she is still gaga over Manav.

I also don't understand the concept of needing a man to live a happy life. I am offended by that being a woman, and I don't understand why the creatives of the show portray such idiotic ideas on a very popular show. I honestly believe they are a bunch of 40 year old sickos sitting around upset at the social progress some parts of India are making with respect to women's rights and don't want to see that progress, therefore they show such idiotic concepts to promote their despicable views.

Also, why do they have to show good people being so passive? Just because you are a nice person, doesn't mean you need to let everyone boss you around. Archana's parents are portrayed as well-meaning parents and respectable members of society, but in my point of view they are nothing but emotional bullies that don't want an identity of their own and just want to blend into their society, and in turn aren't letting their daughter have an identity of her own either.

Why does a woman always need to be known by her relationships? Sulochana's daughter, Manav's ex-wife, Vinod's sister, Jaywant's fiancee? I think its pathetic.

Who on here agrees with me and if you don't agree with me on certain topics, I'd love to hear from you.=)

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I rarely comment these days because it has not been a pleasant experience for me.. However, I could not help myself this once. I agree with you 200 per cent. Archana has been bashed mercilessly on this forum while her family has been spared and held to be right -- for the simple reason that the daughter voluntarily decided to divorce her beloved. Does that give them the right to push her into marriage with a person whom she quite plainly abhors? How can they not see her distress? Her dad finally seemed to have figured out the truth but her mom advocated the usual jugaad stuff. Once she is married everything will be all right. How? Why? Why should it be all right? It is not Manav who forced Jaywant on Archana. That crime was done by Dharmesh with wholehearted support from sulochana. She threatened and forced manav into giving Archana an ultimatum.. She made him feel guilty, called him selfish. After all this, she goes around as if she is the best mom in the world.

Vaishali in particular annoys me. I hang my head in shame for doormat women like her. Had I been in her place I would have given a tongue-lashing to my husband, perhaps even walked out on him. How can she absolve Dharmesh completely while blaming her sister, refusing even to accept her apology? An unnecessary apology in the first place. How can Vaishali be oblivious to the gargantuan flaws in her husband's character? How can she support him being so mean, selfish and cruel? I felt like murdering Dharmesh when he spoke of Manav's undeserved raise. The man was put in jail by you, the least you can do is compensate him. Had he sued you for defamation you'd have likely had to shell out money in lakhs.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with you, not much to write cos you people have said a lot. While everyone keeps blaming Archna- Manav, they are no less innocent. And the bashing about the PR is now getting quite irritable. Once it was okay, but everyday??? Its like they want to hide their own guilts of forcing Archana into the marriage.
The only person on this show who is still likeable is Satish. Archana Manav have made a lot of foolish decisions. However, that does not absolve anyone else of their mistakes too. The sisters are lost in their own lala land, and Mom and Dad are heaping their antiquated ideas on their daughter- he accepted you with your ateet and blah blah.
PS: Vidyasu, it is nice to read varying opinions. I really liked your last posts regarding the factory strikes thing. I hope you will start commenting again.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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agree with you all. I feel like asking these questions to the CVs as well as all PR forum members.

Why Jaywant? Only because dharmesh chose that man and he agreed to marry Archu? how can sulochana still say 'jaywant ke sath archu khush rahegi wo ek achha pati saabit hoga etc' though she knows Archu hates that man because of the manav jail incidence..? If archu wants to stay alone, whats wrong with that?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Agree with you. Finding it very difficult to comment these days.

Archana has seen many tragedies. But the biggest tragedy for her is that her family and so-called well-wishers are forcing her into a relationship for which she is not ready yet, ignoring her obvious distress. How can they claim to love her? It is as though they are in a hurry to get her off their hands !
What society are they talking about. If Shravani's undefined status is acceptable, why not Archana's divorced one?
Why cant she simply be gievn time to recover and recoup? What is the hurry?
Due to this this one act of theirs, she has once again lost her confidence and identity. She may be foolish, impractical and impulsive but no one can take away her natural goodness from her. For that alone, she certainly deserves much better support !
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vidyasu1

I rarely comment these days because it has not been a pleasant experience for me..

Vidyasu, it was a pleasure to go through your posts anytime I chance to see them.

Regarding this constant usurpation of the story's carriage by side characters with not miniscule contribution by the script writers, with their continuous demeaning of the main leads, has left hugely unsatisfactory plot. With the clumsiest hand they go on suspending a most irritating kind of 'grayness'- hijacking the tale to a fool's land. In the process, the leads are subjected to absurdness, subservience, tomfoolery and annoying artificiality in their scripts. Clear case of periphery at the cost of core
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Quite rightly said. In fact this family has lost all meaning of having a good relationship with people who have always been kind and loving towards them. To be mean to a person who has done soo much for them and turning away from him when he needed them the most was the most cruel thing to do. Where is the humanity and sacrifice these parents had taught their children? Varsha is despicable and Vaishu is the worst kind of person I would want to associate with as sister.
It is quite amazing to see Satish being very concerned about the affairs of Manav more than this family.
Vinod is also very inconsiderate and how can he talk so rudely to a person who has brought so much meaning and reason for them to move.
Was it not Manav who helped to get Varsha out of her messy situation when she was involved with a married man? Was he not present at her wedding and helped her both financially and afterwards when she was going through a lot of problems bcos of her previous relationship with a married man? Was it not also he who stood by her at the time?
Vaishu also was helped by Manav even on the day of her wedding when they ran out of food and when there was no one to help them and saved them from the embarrassment?
Was he not divorced from Archu all along during these times? At that time they considered him to be their son and not even their son-in-law.
Even before getting married to Archu was it not he who saved their father from committing suicide and then agreed to marry Archu after knowing what a traumatic experience she went through with Ajith trying to defame her that led to the eventual breakup of Archu's proposed marriage to Satish?
Why can't creatives portray this family to be what they stand up for?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nikita, smrth, many thanks. I agree that the leads have become parodies of themselves. Lately they have both been made to look so neurotic that even their supporters are discomfited. As smrth says, I think the whole idea is to demean them so much that the others look elevated by comparison. It is quite horrible how Archana's family has been portrayed as perfectly reasonable, loving and caring while she has been made to appear illogical, self-destructive and mule-headed. The CVs have pulled this off so cleverly that not many have noticed the harm the family is doing to the daughter. The family hasn't said a word about Dharmesh's boorish behaviour or his criminal inclinations, instead they have happily bought all the bullshit talk about saving the factory and saving the thousands of workers. How easily Dharmesh has gotten on to the moral high ground, talking about loyal workers not getting increment while trouble-maker Manav has been treated with kid gloves and showered with favours. Kid gloves? Favours?. Is spending time in prison a favour? Dharmesh is so warped, so openly and deliberately horrible, yet archana's family cannot see it at all, going on and on about Dharmesh beta. And is it Manav's exclusive right to be slapped? Archana slapped him, even if unwillingly. Sulochana slapped him in full view of his neighbourhood without even bothering to find out if he was guilty or not. Yet she flies into a rage over her daughter slapping the ghar ka daamaad who has sent an innocent man to the gallows. The moral of the story: If you are a rich damaad, you can literally get away with murder, the family will still love you and work itself into insane rage if you are slapped. If you are a poor damaad, you can be put into jail, slapped, shouted at generally treated like dirt.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vidyasu1

I rarely comment these days because it has not been a pleasant experience for me.. However, I could not help myself this once. I agree with you 200 per cent. Archana has been bashed mercilessly on this forum while her family has been spared and held to be right -- for the simple reason that the daughter voluntarily decided to divorce her beloved. Does that give them the right to push her into marriage with a person whom she quite plainly abhors? How can they not see her distress? Her dad finally seemed to have figured out the truth but her mom advocated the usual jugaad stuff. Once she is married everything will be all right. How? Why? Why should it be all right? It is not Manav who forced Jaywant on Archana. That crime was done by Dharmesh with wholehearted support from sulochana. She threatened and forced manav into giving Archana an ultimatum.. She made him feel guilty, called him selfish. After all this, she goes around as if she is the best mom in the world.

Vaishali in particular annoys me. I hang my head in shame for doormat women like her. Had I been in her place I would have given a tongue-lashing to my husband, perhaps even walked out on him. How can she absolve Dharmesh completely while blaming her sister, refusing even to accept her apology? An unnecessary apology in the first place. How can Vaishali be oblivious to the gargantuan flaws in her husband's character? How can she support him being so mean, selfish and cruel? I felt like murdering Dharmesh when he spoke of Manav's undeserved raise. The man was put in jail by you, the least you can do is compensate him. Had he sued you for defamation you'd have likely had to shell out money in lakhs.


Thanks for commenting, please do comment more often because your responses are well thought out and very logical.

I feel the exact same way about Vaishali, she had so much promise at the beginning of the show, heck up until the leap even. I thought her so called 'love story' with Dharmesh was pathetic too...*sigh*

It is thoughts like those of Sulochana's that make me despise the constitution of marriage, but as soon as I think that thought I have to back track and realize that not all marriages are like that. The point I'm trying to make is even I, someone who knows this is a fictious show, and analyses every character's moves am swayed for a while. It may be a short while, but still. I feel so terribly for those who don't have the knowledge to realize that marriage isn't going to solve everything. One must be comfortable with oneself and accept oneself before expecting any relationship to be successful.

If I were Archu I honestly would have either killed someone or shot myself. The amount of pressure put on her is outrageous. Also, I agree with your why Jaywant comment. Sulochana is nothing but a big insecure bully, who can't see past the 'What ifs' of life. It is good to have a positive outlook on life, but to ignore all the possible negatives is ignorant.

*sigh* I'm getting myself all worked up over this, I need to calm down...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

I agree with you, not much to write cos you people have said a lot. While everyone keeps blaming Archna- Manav, they are no less innocent. And the bashing about the PR is now getting quite irritable. Once it was okay, but everyday??? Its like they want to hide their own guilts of forcing Archana into the marriage.

The only person on this show who is still likeable is Satish. Archana Manav have made a lot of foolish decisions. However, that does not absolve anyone else of their mistakes too. The sisters are lost in their own lala land, and Mom and Dad are heaping their antiquated ideas on their daughter- he accepted you with your ateet and blah blah.
PS: Vidyasu, it is nice to read varying opinions. I really liked your last posts regarding the factory strikes thing. I hope you will start commenting again.


You're right, Satish is the only character remotely close to being 'normal' in this show. Varsha and Vaishu, don't even want to talk about them as it makes my blood boil, and mom and dad, especially Sulochana drive me insane. I hate her little pity cries 'He bhagwan! Ye kya ho gaya Archuuuuuu?'

AAAAHHHH!! *calm down Sere calm down*

Accepted with your ateet? EVERYONE has an ateet, and personally I would rather marry someone who was already divorced cuz they know the ins and outs of marriage and would value it more having lost it once.


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