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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lunza




Yup she definitely has suicidal tendencies .. she has already tried to end her life before .. and yesterday she burned her hand ...
The k's know all this .. they know her state of mind ... while I agree with kools post about sulo being a typical mom taking decisions within the social framework etc.. I feel sulo should just back off for a while ..
Surely sulo and mano would prefer a spinster archana over a dead archana ????
Her family is going to drive her to suicide one of these days...
And who says a woman needs a man to complete her???
Why cant archana just take up a teaching job in primary school, adopt a kid and live with her parents? ... I think she would make a great mom ....
Is that such a bad life to have ???

P.S - seri .. are u a kannadiga??


It's an amazing life to have!

I'm sorry, what is a kannadiga?

Lol, I'm Canadian =)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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kanadiga is someone from karnataka.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hehe ok... just curious about what your user name means .. it sounds a bit like the language kannada...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@sere: whoa! another interesting point! Thanks for putting it across in such simple words. Someone had tried to explain to me long back, but I hadn't understood clearly then.

Hmm... then I guess am more interested in psychology not psychiatry. 😆 But then even neurology is highly interesting.😆
anyhow... I'm glad you have read some of my posts.
Do keep posting, its nice to read different POV's and debate on them.


While we're on the topic, neurology deals with the nervous system and the connections between various parts of the brain and the body.

Psychology IS very interesting, and I find it just gets more interesting as you continue to learn more.

If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask kay?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lunza

hehe ok... just curious about what your user name means .. it sounds a bit like the language kannada...


😆 My username is actually quite funny. It means Sere loves Dare.

Sere is my nickname, aishite is a combination of a japanese word and french grammar, and Dare is a cartoon character from Sailor Moon that I was in love with almost 9 years ago, because his girlfriend had a similar name to mine.

Aishiteru is the word in japanese and it means I love you

I shortened it to aishite because I was in love with french in high school, and in french grammar, a verb ends with an e if the original form of the verb ends in er, and there was an -er in aishiteru, so I conjugated it there 😆

Therefore, Sere = (me/cartoon character from sailor moon), aishite = loves (japanese/french), and dare = Darien (cartoon character from sailor moon)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bonny I agree with your post .My views exactly .

.But the end bottom line is .............Divorcing was Archnas decision [ she did not listen to her mom]

Marrying Jaywant is hers again [ Sulo had retreated]

Resigning from job is again HERS [ She disregarded Satishs correct advice]

Burning hand , thinking she Violated her spiritual marraige and ABUSED her god is again hers . Her so called STUPID mom was not even aware of her doings .

Each one has to take responsibility of his or her actions .Blaming Archnas misfortune constantly on her family isnt fair . If others have an opinion that her family is not wrong but correct , saying they are 'drooling over her family' isnt fair either . Why shud their opinions NOT be respected ? Saying such statements and then saying I did not mean to annoy anyone doesn't make much of a difference afterwards .
Shravni is constantly criticised in the forum , people say she opted to have this path .......so she will suffer what she sowed . Doesnt same apply to Manav Archna jodi ?
It wud sadden me to say I am ashamed of Archanas family . I am NOT . I criticize them , have difference of opinions with them , but they r like my family .Saying I am ashamed of them wud amount to saying I am ashamed of MY family . I am NOT . No family in the world is perfect but all in all Karanjkar family isnt a bad family .It is loving and pretty normal .
I cud have asked how about being ashamed of actions like burning hand etc from a well balanced gal like ARchna who normally gave advices to her sisters when they made mistakes but I won't . Even this action I sort of understand .........Manav has affected Archana very very badly .She needs therapy or she may end up setting herself on fire .
One more thing ............about this 'grieving period' . You guys may not agree with me , but exactly how much shud this period be ? Two years , five years ? Her biological clock is ticking , so her mom was worried . She is 28 . And btw will the grieving period for Archana ever end ?She doesnt want to get over manav or move on . Its downright unhealthy . She wants to hover around him and Shravni and rush in to save him each time much to Shravnis irritation . I dont see her as the type of single women u guys r talking about at all .........the ones who live seperately , adopt , live fulfilled lives of their own .
Manju cud buy seperate house coz she and Vinod had joint income . Is buying house and living easy ? Females like Manju , Archna r not on high positions to take costly financial decisions .Flats cost phenomenal in Mumbai . Its possible , but normally unmarried gals like Archna end up sharing home with brothers and bhabis and suffering in life . This serial is not showing rare females , they r showing common lives .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@sere: Neurology, psychiatry and psychology can be very related at times. There's a book- 'phantoms in the brain' by an eminent indian scientist that gives some very interesting examples. Some clinical cases were sent to psychologists by the neurologists since the patients were having behavioral problems- some were even classified neurotics and psychotics. Later, research proved that these behavioral problems were actually stemming out of neurological problems- infarct, amputation and so on. Proved to be a very interesting read.

Sure, will keep pestering you now. 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kools , I agree that right now archana needs therapy more than marriage ... after the hand burning incident sulo should be more worried about archana's life then her spinsterhood ...

And I wish mano would have been a bit more .. uh .. forceful in making his point yesterday .. he is so right in feeling uneasy about archana's impending marriage ...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Bonny I agree with your post .My views exactly .

.But the end bottom line is .............Divorcing was Archnas decision [ she did not listen to her mom]

Marrying Jaywant is hers again [ Sulo had retreated]

Resigning from job is again HERS [ She disregarded Satishs correct advice]

Burning hand , thinking she Violated her spiritual marraige and ABUSED her god is again hers . Her so called STUPID mom was not even aware of her doings .

Each one has to take responsibility of his or her actions .Blaming Archnas misfortune constantly on her family isnt fair . If others have an opinion that her family is not wrong but correct , saying they are 'drooling over her family' isnt fair either . Why shud their opinions NOT be respected ? Saying such statements and then saying I did not mean to annoy anyone doesn't make much of a difference afterwards .
Shravni is constantly criticised in the forum , people say she opted to have this path .......so she will suffer what she sowed . Doesnt same apply to Manav Archna jodi ?
It wud sadden me to say I am ashamed of Archanas family . I am NOT . I criticize them , have difference of opinions with them , but they r like my family .Saying I am ashamed of them wud amount to saying I am ashamed of MY family . I am NOT . No family in the world is perfect but all in all Karanjkar family isnt a bad family .It is loving and pretty normal .
I cud have asked how about being ashamed of actions like burning hand etc from a well balanced gal like ARchna who normally gave advices to her sisters when they made mistakes but I won't . Even this action I sort of understand .........Manav has affected Archana very very badly .She needs therapy or she may end up setting herself on fire .
One more thing ............about this 'grieving period' . You guys may not agree with me , but exactly how much shud this period be ? Two years , five years ? Her biological clock is ticking , so her mom was worried . She is 28 . And btw will the grieving period for Archana ever end ?She doesnt want to get over manav or move on . Its downright unhealthy . She wants to hover around him and Shravni and rush in to save him each time much to Shravnis irritation . I dont see her as the type of single women u guys r talking about at all .........the ones who live seperately , adopt , live fulfilled lives of their own .
Manju cud buy seperate house coz she and Vinod had joint income . Is buying house and living easy ? Females like Manju , Archna r not on high positions to take costly financial decisions .Flats cost phenomenal in Mumbai . Its possible , but normally unmarried gals like Archna end up sharing home with brothers and bhabis and suffering in life . This serial is not showing rare females , they r showing common lives .


I have always said that archana herself needs to be blamed for her sufferings.

About the grieving period......yes i agree she is 28 and it will give sulochana stress. But sulochana should have dealt the situation patiently. She should have made a step by step attempt. She should have asked archana to emotionally disconnect from manav....instead she was sending sheera for him. she should have asked manav to disconnect himself from archana instead she used his emotional hold on her to go according to her liking.

She has always been doing things according to her own liking then looking at the bigger picture for archana. She has made archana live according to her terms and she still continues to want that.

Edited by bonnefille - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Bonny I agree with your post .My views exactly .

.But the end bottom line is .............Divorcing was Archnas decision [ she did not listen to her mom]

Marrying Jaywant is hers again [ Sulo had retreated]

Resigning from job is again HERS [ She disregarded Satishs correct advice]

Burning hand , thinking she Violated her spiritual marraige and ABUSED her god is again hers . Her so called STUPID mom was not even aware of her doings .

Each one has to take responsibility of his or her actions .Blaming Archnas misfortune constantly on her family isnt fair . If others have an opinion that her family is not wrong but correct , saying they are 'drooling over her family' isnt fair either . Why shud their opinions NOT be respected ? Saying such statements and then saying I did not mean to annoy anyone doesn't make much of a difference afterwards .
Shravni is constantly criticised in the forum , people say she opted to have this path .......so she will suffer what she sowed . Doesnt same apply to Manav Archna jodi ?
It wud sadden me to say I am ashamed of Archanas family . I am NOT . I criticize them , have difference of opinions with them , but they r like my family .Saying I am ashamed of them wud amount to saying I am ashamed of MY family . I am NOT . No family in the world is perfect but all in all Karanjkar family isnt a bad family .It is loving and pretty normal .
I cud have asked how about being ashamed of actions like burning hand etc from a well balanced gal like ARchna who normally gave advices to her sisters when they made mistakes but I won't . Even this action I sort of understand .........Manav has affected Archana very very badly .She needs therapy or she may end up setting herself on fire .
One more thing ............about this 'grieving period' . You guys may not agree with me , but exactly how much shud this period be ? Two years , five years ? Her biological clock is ticking , so her mom was worried . She is 28 . And btw will the grieving period for Archana ever end ?She doesnt want to get over manav or move on . Its downright unhealthy . She wants to hover around him and Shravni and rush in to save him each time much to Shravnis irritation . I dont see her as the type of single women u guys r talking about at all .........the ones who live seperately , adopt , live fulfilled lives of their own .
Manju cud buy seperate house coz she and Vinod had joint income . Is buying house and living easy ? Females like Manju , Archna r not on high positions to take costly financial decisions .Flats cost phenomenal in Mumbai . Its possible , but normally unmarried gals like Archna end up sharing home with brothers and bhabis and suffering in life . This serial is not showing rare females , they r showing common lives .


I'm not going to say much here, but I wanted to comment on the grieving period comment of yours. As a psychology student, I can honestly and factually say that the grieving period depends on each individual. There are certain phases to grieving. I'll put them up here real quick and simple.

Shock/Denial
Anger
Compromise/Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

It isn't always in that order and there is no definite period for each. A person can also flip-flop between two phases for a while, end up at square one and have to work through it all over again.

Someone like Archana would need extensive counselling to help her get over her grief, and it IS possible to take an entire lifetime to get over the grief although it is VERY rare.

Kool, I apologize if the title of my post has hurt you in any way because of it resembling your family, but what I'm trying to get at is that Sulochana is a bully who thinks she is always right and only sees what she wants to see. She saw how much pain her daughter is going through, she sees how BAD of a person Jaywant is, he has criminal tendencies, and she is leaving a LOT up to chance, without sitting down and thinking logically. If you were to be engaged to someone like Jaywant and your mother knew he conned you into signing papers and framed someone and basically engaged in criminal activities, would she let you marry him? Would your mother not support you if you stood up for yourself? Would your mother not see your pain? Would your mother not break off the engagement if she knew of all the HORRIBLE things he did, if only to ensure your safety? I am pretty darned sure she would call it off, even if the guy's family DID want this marriage to occur.

About the biological clock, how does she even know she can have children? Should she be pushed into a marriage if she is only going to be tortured, just for the sake of having a child who will not have a happy life anyways, because of an unstable family? If for whatever reason she cannot have a child, can she not adopt? There are so many children out there in need of a loving family, can she not accept one as her own?

Owning a flat in Mumbai, no one said she had to OWN one, I personally rent out an apartment of mine to a couple for 5500 / month, an amount I KNOW is manageable for most people with a stable job like Archu.

The Karanjkars mean well, but they are all very bossy and have a scapegoat in Archana, whom they can constantly give orders to on how to live life under the pretext of it being a piece of advice. Why do I say order? Because they automatically expect her to do what they suggest.

Archana and Manav do need to live through what they committed to, but should they really have to not even SPEAK to one another because of it?

Sorry I know I said this would be short, but I couldn't help myself =)

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