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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: tarantulla_p
The Karanjkars are a confused bunch. They want the best for Archana and assume the best is her remarriage. The problem is there is a huge disconnect from what they want for her and what she is clearly happy with.

If they genuinely want to see her happy, how come none of them ever asks Manav if he cares enough to kill all the roadside romeos for her, why did he divorce her? They are always after Archana for answers. She is very clearly still in love with the guy but cant marry him coz he WONT marry her. So, there isnt much she can do can she.

All middleclass Indian families perceive a daughter is better off married with a kid or two than all alone with a smashing career. This is a fact and I am sure the Karanjkars are no different here. Where they are wrong according to me is they never stood up for her when her first marriage was crumbling all around her. All of them accepted Manav's ill adviced decision with no opposition and they are fooling themselves now that Archana is ready to move on when she clearly is kicking and screaming otherwise.

My two cents are : the only person to blame for all of Archana's miseries post marriage is Manav. Had he been half a husband that Vinod is to Manju and we wouldnt see the poor girl in such a miserable situation.

Totally agree Taran...The dude who put Archu in this precarious situation is now trying to be the hero questioning TDH's intentions...Making judgements on TDH not being a good husband material especially for Archu...Bhai aapne apna thobda kabhi aaine me dekha hai kya??? Aap kaun hote ho yeh judgement denewale...Aap hi to ho jisne Archu ko iss jagah pahoonchaya...🤔

CVs want to make dumb useless of man who is a lead a saving hero but he is the one who put the lead female in this situation...Kya nonsense dikha rahe hai 🤢

Atleast Vinod-Manju has some marriage life...Manju does love him....She might be the vamp but in her marriage she does care for...ArMan are from another planet 😳

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#82

Originally posted by: smrth
I don't want to hurt on personal levels.

You won't . U know how frank I am , when Im hurt I frankly tell it I dont keep it in my heart .Irrespective of whether I like Dharmesh or not , you have a full right to your opinions . And if i mind yours simply coz they r contrary to mine , I wudnt be a friend at all , just a very very stupid person .😊

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zeezee55

@zeezee55

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Posted: 14 years ago

#83

Not seen much recently but anyway, i did bash Archana in my post a few minutes ago. But you are right, the family deserves to be bashed too, especially Sulochana, her mother. She is the biggest culprit when it comes to Archana - from day 1. Even now, she just tells Archana forget about Manav - what I would like to ask Sulochana is whether she can forget her husband? All sulochana wants is to have a picture perfect family - all daughers married off well so that she can face society that she has done her duty and done it well. Does she really care what her daughters feel - yes i know she sympathises with them and holds them, hugs them and empathise with them but it appears so superficial . after empathsing, she isback to saying, you should consider the right thing to do - and as far as she is concerned, the right thing to dois what society expects you to do - get married and have a family sigh

Actually I sympathise with Jaywant's family - I don't like Jaywant nor his family - but i do sympathise the family - because who would tolerate their future daughter-in-law hankering after her first husband. I am surprised they still want her as a DIL. I know why Jaywant wants her - out of revenge - but why would the family want her?

I won't bash Archana riight now - i think shehas been bashed enough. But still things are in her hands and she can make it better if she really wants to.... but does she want to...that is the question

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Archana Natarajan

@archanan14

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Posted: 14 years ago

#84

Really nice thread going on! 😊

I think there is no question that mothers and fathers always believe that their daughters (and sons, but especially daughters) should get married and live happily. Perversely, Sulochana might even believe that if Archana marries Jaywant, she might in time forget Manav as well. This is right in the beginning when the rishta was just being discussed etc.

At this point when so much has happened, it is HORRIBLY unfair to Archana to blackmail her to go on with this marriage, knowing what kind of person Jaywant is - the fact that he actually perpetuated a FRAUD to keep Manav in jail! And Dharmesh, who went along with this is also allowed to go scot free because he can very conveniently blame Archana saying that her rishta with Manav is not 'pavitra', or that she is wronging her future in-laws / husband - when he is wrong in the eyes of the law.

I have not seen a person more unhappy and more put upon than Archana. And one person who we should mention is Manju in this context. That woman is responsible for EVERY ill that has fallen on this family, more than even Dharmesh and the self-sacrificing saints, and she gets to go scot free.

The second person we should mention is Savita - who first lied, then created love in Shravani's mind for Manav by attacking her insecurities, then tried to take away the same status to give it to Archana, and now judging Archana for what she is doing without any evidence.

The third person we should mention is Shravani. If a man doesn't want to marry her so obviously, she should walk away from him, taking the child. She's rich enough, she can manage. Instead she went about emotionally blackmailing Archana into as loveless a marriage as she is going to have.

After this only comes Archana's family - her brother and sisters especially - who don't seem to see the wrong their respective spouses are doing, but are bent upon accusing Manav and Archana for so many things while not even thinking about the things they have done for the family, and the number of times they have forgiven all of these people. Varsha's marriage was saved by Manav, and he helped out in Vaishu's wedding also. He treated them no less than younger sisters.

Honestly, I don't even have much respect left for Archana and Manav any more also. They brought all this upon themselves by being silly and self-sacrificing. And if they can't forget each other - they shouldn't have got divorced in the first place. The only people I have some respect left for are Satish - who is genuinely regretting the fraud he committed and is a very sensible man, and Ajit post leap - who has managed to pick himself up and make a life for himself.

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Alina

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Posted: 14 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: zeezee55
Not seen much recently but anyway, i did bash Archana in my post a few minutes ago. But you are right, the family deserves to be bashed too, especially Sulochana, her mother. She is the biggest culprit when it comes to Archana - from day 1. Even now, she just tells Archana forget about Manav - what I would like to ask Sulochana is whether she can forget her husband? All sulochana wants is to have a picture perfect family - all daughers married off well so that she can face society that she has done her duty and done it well. Does she really care what her daughters feel - yes i know she sympathises with them and holds them, hugs them and empathise with them but it appears so superficial . after empathsing, she isback to saying, you should consider the right thing to do - and as far as she is concerned, the right thing to dois what society expects you to do - get married and have a family sigh

Actually I sympathise with Jaywant's family - I don't like Jaywant nor his family - but i do sympathise the family - because who would tolerate their future daughter-in-law hankering after her first husband. I am surprised they still want her as a DIL. I know why Jaywant wants her - out of revenge - but why would the family want her?

I won't bash Archana riight now - i think shehas been bashed enough. But still things are in her hands and she can make it better if she really wants to.... but does she want to...that is the question

Hi there zeezee!

I agree, that Sulochana really rubs me the wrong way, but I understand what others like koolsadhu are saying too, about a mother's heart. Honestly though, if I were a mother, society be damned I'd make sure my child was truly willing and READY for another marriage post divorce.

And I definitely would NOT blackmail her into marrying someone she doesn't like.

Jaywant's family had some sympathy from me at the beginning, but now that they are ORDERING Archu into leaving her job, and constantly taunting her, they've lost all respect from me anyways. His mother would have retained some respect in my eyes had she told Archu nicely, please don't work where you're working now, try to find another job, but know that you aren't obligated to work, but you can if you want to. Instead she goes and orders Archu to leave her job and tell her she CAN'T work. The bias they had against her from the beginning about her being a divorcee had always made me suspect they were going to treat her like dirt, like she's soiled or trash or something like that.

About Archu, she's done her fair share of foolish activities, but I think the most foolish thing she does and has been consistently doing since the beginning of the show is sacrificing her happiness for others, and doing what EVERYONE tells her to, like she's some slave or something. I think if she just stands up for herself, she can avoid getting into a bigger mess than she's already in.

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Alina

@sereaishitedare

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Posted: 14 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: arch_nat1112
Really nice thread going on! 😊

I think there is no question that mothers and fathers always believe that their daughters (and sons, but especially daughters) should get married and live happily. Perversely, Sulochana might even believe that if Archana marries Jaywant, she might in time forget Manav as well. This is right in the beginning when the rishta was just being discussed etc.

At this point when so much has happened, it is HORRIBLY unfair to Archana to blackmail her to go on with this marriage, knowing what kind of person Jaywant is - the fact that he actually perpetuated a FRAUD to keep Manav in jail! And Dharmesh, who went along with this is also allowed to go scot free because he can very conveniently blame Archana saying that her rishta with Manav is not 'pavitra', or that she is wronging her future in-laws / husband - when he is wrong in the eyes of the law.

I have not seen a person more unhappy and more put upon than Archana. And one person who we should mention is Manju in this context. That woman is responsible for EVERY ill that has fallen on this family, more than even Dharmesh and the self-sacrificing saints, and she gets to go scot free.

The second person we should mention is Savita - who first lied, then created love in Shravani's mind for Manav by attacking her insecurities, then tried to take away the same status to give it to Archana, and now judging Archana for what she is doing without any evidence.

The third person we should mention is Shravani. If a man doesn't want to marry her so obviously, she should walk away from him, taking the child. She's rich enough, she can manage. Instead she went about emotionally blackmailing Archana into as loveless a marriage as she is going to have.

After this only comes Archana's family - her brother and sisters especially - who don't seem to see the wrong their respective spouses are doing, but are bent upon accusing Manav and Archana for so many things while not even thinking about the things they have done for the family, and the number of times they have forgiven all of these people. Varsha's marriage was saved by Manav, and he helped out in Vaishu's wedding also. He treated them no less than younger sisters.

Honestly, I don't even have much respect left for Archana and Manav any more also. They brought all this upon themselves by being silly and self-sacrificing. And if they can't forget each other - they shouldn't have got divorced in the first place. The only people I have some respect left for are Satish - who is genuinely regretting the fraud he committed and is a very sensible man, and Ajit post leap - who has managed to pick himself up and make a life for himself.

Everyone tries to hide their imperfections behind the seemingly 'obvious' imperfections of Manav and Archana, and everyone also presents themselves as all-knowing in the show, to my eternal disgust, especially Sulochana and Savita.

Savita is still a likable character, simply because it is expected of her to be selfish. Sulochana on the other hand thinks she is acting in everyone's best interest, but is nothing more than a big bully. The less said about the sisters the better. Two very promising characters have been reduced to being traditional wives who see no wrong in their husbands actions, even if they are openly admitting their mistakes, all the while blaming someone else. Dharmesh is another bully who plays mind games, just like a dictator would.

I don't condone physical violence, but I don't see Archu's slap to Dharmesh as overtly inappropriate, him with his big mouth and disrespectful attitude needed to shut up, and no one was supporting her. Heck don't support her for all I care, at least speak up against the obvious CRIMES Dharmesh commited, fraud and lying to a police officer being two. It still shocks me that no one even thinks to find the real culprit in the entire factory fiasco.

Manav and Archu, I do agree with a lot of the characters on one point, that these two pretend to be god, and they constantly put others happiness and wishes above their own. That's pathetic and naive, in the real world, you should be nice yes, but you also need a backbone to stick up for yourself.