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Posted: 15 years ago
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What is Damodar Patil aka DP's offence ? Is he seriously worth the "hatred" thats been flowing in at PN ? . Thats been the Q crossing my mind these days and to be frank, I dont think he is worth "that much hatred"........ and here is my perspective of him......
DP 26 yrs back was a drunkard who often gambled , just like many men do in the world. Why to look so far,we have our very own Ganpath , a big example. What did DP do in his intoxicated state? Gamble off his son. A big offence. I agree. Then SP came and tried to grab the kid from a worthless father. They ended up in a tussle and SP , SLIPPED off the building. 26 yrs later we get to see ppl call DP a Murderer !!!. How? How is DP termed murderer? Why is everyone hating him for killing his brother?. Did DP push SP off? No right . Then how come he is being blamed "so much" ?. Yes he aint any saint but then he aint a murderer either. He is a normal drunk man. Thats all. If Ganpath who I can bet wont bat eyes before gambling of his daughter for money (and he had no shame in approving Dutta's force marriage just because Dutta is rich) how come DP is being hated so much?. I dont get DP's offence and its been a big bouncer for me still.
Now, now abt the gambling which DP is sorry abt. I agree he should be sorry abt it. He was wrong and pls dont get me wrong, I am all for his appology.But then arent the whole PN clan including Nakku being hypocrites here?. Before u jump ur gun, hear me out. Dutta , our dear Dutta, who in his drunk state , FORCED a woman into wedlock and that too terming it a punishment. If PN folk and Nakku could forgive Dutta for that offence which is no less than killing a person, cant DP be forgiven too?. I agree abt Dutta's stance of not forgiving his dad here. He acts and then thinks. And he as far as we have seen till date, thinks less and acts more. So I dont expect him to be rational with his dad but what abt Nakku? What abt AS? What abt Baaji? What abt Babi and co?. Shouldnt they forgive DP? . Ya AS said she forgave him but then only after she saw her son back home. But I ask, why couldnt she have forgiven him before? DP didnt kill SP. Nor did he have any such plans. Whatever happened was an accident and if she is the woman thats being shown to us (Mother India types) who had the heart to take care of the son of her husbands killer , then shouldnt she have forgiven DP long back?. Nakku who believes in good , shouldnt she have forgiven DP?. Instead she made DP look like a dreaded murderer infront of Dutta.
I fail to understand the depth of DPs offence. It doesnt seem logical for me to see PN wasis hate DP "so much". Ya I can see them not like DP but hate him? For what?. He is one more ganpath and if ppl can forgive Ganpath and have no issues with him, why see DP in a different light? . If given a chance Ganpath can strangle his daughters life for money. DP was no different. Yet both are treated way different and that too when DP is genuinely sorry abt his past behavior and wants to make ammends.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree, this was bothering me too as SP slipped down and wasn't pushed by DP Then why the hell is everyone blaming him for being a murderer? I think Aai sahib and others got it wrong and neither did DP opened his mouth as he feels himself to be responsible for his brother's death ...

either it was Director's fault that he chose a wrong angle or some blooper u may call it ..


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I dont think the offence is about the actual offence itself but the impact it had in the lives of people. Here DP's acts finally resulted in his brother's death. Instead of taking responsibility for his son and his brother's family he chose to run away leaving his brother's widow to bring up 4 small children all alone. And he returned all these years later only to cause another upheaval in their lives. He is every one of their culprit(and just not Dutta's or AS'). Comparing him with Ganpat is a good comparision as they are similar but wrt the question of forgiveness hasnt arisen as despite everything his crimes havent had that much impact on their lives thanks to Babi's and Naku's nature.
Coming to Dutta's offence I agree with u...what he did could have spoilt a girl's life. But it finally worked out for both of them. Plus Dutta was ready to take responsibility of Naku after he broke up with Naku instead of running away. And finally it was upto Naku to accept his repentance and move on which she did.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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A very interesting topic,Anu.
I had touched upon this a bit in reply to your update thread yesterday.I agree with u that if seen in proper perspective DP's offence was just that he liked to drink & gamble & nothing more. Both AS & Kala were shown to have clearly witnessed that SP had actually slipped & fallen in that under constructed building during the scuffle.Kala being a kid might have interpreted it as delibrate killing of her father but there was no reason for AS to think this way.So its the nature of these women that's questionable here.They seem to be extremely self centred & love life to be easy & comfortable.That was taken away from them that night.Of course its so hard raise four children even in well to do homes here AS must have a hard time making ends meet.Some women I know have personally experienced the loss of the bread winner of the family & they too had to struggle to keep their heads above water.But there is no bitterness in them now they are so proud of their struggle that they take it as a personal acheivement but a selfish nasty woman like AS wouldn't take it that way.This nasty selfish streak has manifested in her children too.Thats why the atmosphere at PN is so toxic. Dutta being raised in that house has in turn caused him to behave like he does.Dragging an innocent girl to the mandap in drunken stupor was a result of AS's upbringing.Later of course his true nature prevailed & he is still making good his mistake.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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DP didn't deliberately kill SP...but his actions were directly responsible for the mishap. From an outsider's point of view, it cannot be seen as a murder, technically. But the moral responsibility still does rest on DP, even we cannot deny that.

Now coming to SP's family...it's impossible for the near and dear ones of the victim to look objectively at the situation...like we are doing here. Their loss was huge, it changed the course of their lives, and I think it was only human to hold DP responsible for their plight.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sub_rosa

DP didn't deliberately kill SP...but his actions were directly responsible for the mishap. From an outsider's point of view, it cannot be seen as a murder, technically. But the moral responsibility still does rest on DP, even we cannot deny that.


Now coming to SP's family...it's impossible for the near and dear ones of the victim to look objectively at the situation...like we are doing here. Their loss was huge, it changed the course of their lives, and I think it was only human to hold DP responsible for their plight.




i agree! if DP hadn't been drunk, hadn't been gambling, and hadn't gambled off his son, SP might still be alive today. Yes he may not have killed SP himself, but his actions led up to his death.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with u anu DP has not made so big an offendse that Kala wants to kill him or datta htes him for life and everybody must be given a chance to rectify their mistakes in life.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As far as, DP's gambling is concerend, he had a son, whose mother had died at child birth. He had great responsiblilty on his head. W*H was he doing drinking and gambling? Loosing money in gamble can be forgiven, gambling his son away, (without regrets) is something I don't think that can be forgiven.

SP, died b'coz he slipped in a fight saving his nephew, he was in that situation b'coz of DP. (It is not as if DP is not entirely not responsible for hid death)

And when the Mishap happened, what did he do?? Did he stay there and face the music?? No he ran way!!!! Had AS not taken care of Dutta from that point onwards, what would have happened of him??? Who would have taken care of a 3 yrs child? Perhaps the person who won him, would have taken him for his servant.

Where was he all these years?? Dutta might have needed his afther many times b'4. where was he then?? !!! And when had he repented?? When death is near?? Can a repentance of this time, be called genuine??

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with everyone who has pointed out that DP did not kill his brother.....at least that wasn't his intention. As others have explained, however, it is also true that DP's actions during that night are responsible for what happened to SP and his family naturally hold DP accountable for it. Now, Kala's bitterness is something that suits her. She is a selfish woman. It is normal for someone like her to be unforgiving. AS, on the other hand, isn't shown to be like Kala (she is prob worse, I think, but I'll pretend she isn't). Then why won't she accept and tell Dutta that SP died accidentally while fighting DP. This is correct and it doesn't put DP as a murderer yet it makes it clear that he is in a way responsible for it. The way she and the rest of them explained it to Dutta, it seems like DP literally pushed SP off. If this is true then the CVs showed us the scene completely wrong!

DP has admitted he is a kamina and did wrong them. He apologized and they did not forgive with the exception of AS. Whatever. They don't have to. They can go on forever holding their grudge against him. What they shouldn't do is poison his son's mind with the wrong details. Dutta would not forgive DSP even if they told him exactly how SP fell off and he would still blame himself for it too. Telling him a different story however, doesn't just make him just hate his dad but himself also, and he feels like he & DP took away their happiness. There is no room for him to say that this was an accident and those happen to everyone. AS decided to tell Naku, and then they all told Dutta, that DP gambled him away Dutta, killed SP, leaving AS widowed, and her kids father-less. Why? Doesn't this makes it seem like AS wants Dutta to feel like he owes them his life not just because they raised him but also because DP killed SP?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I totally agree ur thought anu, very well written. Although it was an accident DP is the reason for death of SP. that why he ask forgiveness to AS.

but nakku she has look at her self before blaming DP she living with worthless father who also insist nakku to marry malmal for money. all ganapat want is money he never cared about nakku. even when datta forcefully marry nakku. he was happy that she marry to rich man. now he ready to destroy nakku life for money. but what she is doing living with him.

our beloved DSP 3 sisters, yes they lost there father because of DP. but what datta did to them loving them, giving them food, shelter and taking care more than his father, but SP daughter are destroying datta life for DP mistake. they have to look at them self how many mistake they have done to datta. when it compare to DP mistake they did lot and lots of mistake. DP mistake is nothing in front of them. so are they worthy to forgive DP.

only DP mistake is leaving datta to AS. what is the different in selling him. if DSP was sold out he must worked as servant in another house without a trouble. now he work as a servant in AS house with a trouble. AS is mother of India no i don't think so. all she keep datta to serve his family. she is BH.

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