Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi-EDT #18 - Page 23

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Ekalavya being adopted by Gautam itself is an acceptance, isnt it?

How is Nandini's hatred of Ansh translating to hatred of the bloodline? Was it shown that Nandini hated Ekalavya for him being Ansh's son?

Even now, had Reyansh looked any different, you think Nandini would have had issues? Reyansh has mentioned a few times that Nandini doesn’t seem him in the eye when conversing. So it has always been about who he "looked" like not about whose son he was.

Karan created this mess. He is responsible for the mess. When Reyansh was questioning and accusing Nandini in the same breath, he was silent. He has always expected Nandini to adjust to the situation and bow to Tulsi's diktat, right ir otherwise.

As for Parth, he has been the only one who has shown his support to Nandini and even voiced out in support of Nandini. When the confrontation between Tulsi and Nandini happened, what did you expect him to do? Shout at Tulsi, his grandmother? At best, him and Samaira wanting to go with Nandini after what he heard, is the only thing he can do.

I really want Nanadani and Parth to leave SN, but Parth is only interested in Vaishnavi and not in his immediate family

Parth is sensitive, he was holding Samaira protectively when Reyansh was blaming Nandani, its just makers never explored his relationship with his family. Even him and Karan have limited interactions.

When did he voice in support of Nandani

Originally posted by: bjsh82

My question is what was he thnking when he married Tanya and what is the point to keep Nandini in coma if she has to leave her daughter and husband when she wakes up! Was he thinking that Tanya will divorce him and handover Bhoomi to Nandini once she get out of coma,he is not a kid to listen to Tulsi and consumate with Tanya and fall in love with her which he did mention in the diary that he loves Nandini but started to love new woman in his life (Tanya),Reyansh didn't grew up instantly and Tulsi accepted Ekalvya so why he thought Reyansh wouldn't be accepted, will cause trauma to Tulsi, KN were living in US, Reyansh and Niyati would have lived in SN with Tulsi and would be her responsibility, he need have to sabotage his relation with Nandini to that extent of divorce and Samira trying suicide for them! He didn't oppose Reyansh when he questioned Nandini for not compromising in marriage, didn't care to comfort his own kids instead he cared more about Reyansh, he hasn't once called Nandini to check on her but worried more about Niyati and Reyansh which is totally wrong!

As i mentioned above karan was completely devasted in nandini's coma . He was no state of mind to think about the future or what would happen when nandini woke up . That's why he told tanya straight up before the wedding "i will never ab able to give you the rights of a wife " and he only loves nandini. Till 3 years karan didn't have any relation with tanya until again tulsi gave him a bhashan, and for him tulsi is his God. Whatever karan felt for tanya and wrote in his diary it was just a temporary infatuation or passing feelings . Have you not seen when nandini woke up karan was unable to control his feelings forgot everything left his wedding anniversary happily and excitedly run to meet nandini. When nandini read his diary and fainted karan took her to the hospital and said that he will end all those relations who were coming between him and nandini. Tanya left sn but she never went away from karan-nandini's life .she came to see bhoomi at the school and said she can't live witout seeing bhoomi .karan felt quilty and whenever he met tanya she always cry infront of him, made him feel bad, pity...altough karan told her everytime that he can't give her rights as his wife . The only time karan had share physical realtionship with tanya was when nandini was in come. when nandini went to jail she made karan promise to take care of tanya and be with her . But once he came back from jail he did tell tanya that he can't give her nandini's place in his heart and in his life , all those 20 years karan was faithful and loyal to nandiini waiting for her to return. Nobody asked tanya to live with a man who doesn't love her and took care of his chidren.

In sesaon 1 tulsi felt no guilt about kiilling ansh , however in season 2 they showed her carrying that guilt . So how would karan tell tulsi about rio ? When eklavya grew up in sn tulsi wasn't there mihir kicked her out from sn.

Karan having scenes with rio but not with parth or samira is the writers fault , not a flaw in karan's character . Just because karan called niyati once doesn't mean he never calls nandini ,otherwise nandini would have complained to tulsi about it.

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Ekalavya being adopted by Gautam itself is an acceptance, isnt it?

How is Nandini's hatred of Ansh translating to hatred of the bloodline? Was it shown that Nandini hated Ekalavya for him being Ansh's son?

Even now, had Reyansh looked any different, you think Nandini would have had issues? Reyansh has mentioned a few times that Nandini doesn’t seem him in the eye when conversing. So it has always been about who he "looked" like not about whose son he was.

Karan created this mess. He is responsible for the mess. When Reyansh was questioning and accusing Nandini in the same breath, he was silent. He has always expected Nandini to adjust to the situation and bow to Tulsi's diktat, right ir otherwise.

As for Parth, he has been the only one who has shown his support to Nandini and even voiced out in support of Nandini. When the confrontation between Tulsi and Nandini happened, what did you expect him to do? Shout at Tulsi, his grandmother? At best, him and Samaira wanting to go with Nandini after what he heard, is the only thing he can do.

Eklavya was accepted when nandini was in jail and in season 1 tulsi felt no guilt about killing ansh .

Yes nandini hated eklavya even in kt's r**e track nandini was the first person to doubt on eklavya . In this season nandini said about rio like father like son after all he carries ansh's blood .

Nandini has already forgiven karan , but she has an issue with living under the same roof with niyati and rio . Karan even told tulsi about this, but it was tulsi's desicion not karan's .

When rio said to nandini nibha lena chayie tha shadi ki thi toh did parth take any action? No . He only said something when dev spoke up against nandini . Like i already said that parth is always involved in dev, saloni and vaishnavi . Parth is grown up he could have said c mon mom and samaira let's leave sn . We won't stay here . Instead he was busy planning a hospital visit with vaishnavi .

Originally posted by: adeela

Eklavya was accepted when nandini was in jail and in season 1 tulsi felt no guilt about killing ansh .

Yes nandini hated eklavya even in kt's r**e track nandini was the first person to doubt on eklavya . In this season nandini said about rio like father like son after all he carries ansh's blood .

Nandini has already forgiven karan , but she has an issue with living under the same roof with niyati and rio . Karan even told tulsi about this, but it was tulsi's desicion not karan's .

When rio said to nandini nibha lena chayie tha shadi ki thi toh did parth take any action? No . He only said something when dev spoke up against nandini . Like i already said that parth is always involved in dev, saloni and vaishnavi . Parth is grown up he could have said c mon mom and samaira let's leave sn . We won't stay here . Instead he was busy planning a hospital visit with vaishnavi .

Yes I too want parth took stand for nandani like rio stands always for niyati even she is wrong kuch rio se hi sikh le

Btw which show is hiten doing on colors tv and what about ght channel or that something else

Originally posted by: NeeruNature

Yes I too want parth took stand for nandani like rio stands always for niyati even she is wrong kuch rio se hi sikh le

Btw which show is hiten doing on colors tv and what about ght channel or that something else

In my pov parth has not been shown as strong as karan . Even rio's character seems stronger than parth.

According to articles , the colors show is based on an army hospital , which will replace naagin7.

Yeah i think hiten-gauri will start youtube channel or vlogging but still i am not sure .

Originally posted by: adeela

Eklavya was accepted when nandini was in jail and in season 1 tulsi felt no guilt about killing ansh .

Yes nandini hated eklavya even in kt's r**e track nandini was the first person to doubt on eklavya . In this season nandini said about rio like father like son after all he carries ansh's blood .

Nandini has already forgiven karan , but she has an issue with living under the same roof with niyati and rio . Karan even told tulsi about this, but it was tulsi's desicion not karan's .

When rio said to nandini nibha lena chayie tha shadi ki thi toh did parth take any action? No . He only said something when dev spoke up against nandini . Like i already said that parth is always involved in dev, saloni and vaishnavi . Parth is grown up he could have said c mon mom and samaira let's leave sn . We won't stay here . Instead he was busy planning a hospital visit with vaishnavi .

Regardless of when Ekalavya was accepted, the point is that he was accepted. Karan's justification of hiding Niyati and Reyansh from the family was for 2 reasons:

1. Fear of acceptance by the family

2. To protect Nandini.

They would have been resolved because we were talking about a 10 year old boy and his traumatised mother. Besides, who/what was Karan trying to protect Nandini from?

Also, isn't Parth Karan and Tanya's son?

Like father like son, applies to anyone, Gautam said that to Karan. Somehow, that was not a wrong connotation.

I don't think Tulsi is guilty of killing Ansh as much as, she is guilty of the lost childhood and lost years of Niyati and Reyansh. She feels responsible for Ansh's lineage not getting there rightful place in Shantiniketan.

About Nandini hating Ekalavya or Reyansh, after what Ansh did to her and the fact that both of them look like Ansh, what would anyone expect from her? That face would haunt her for life.

The fact that Niyati believes and behaves as Karan's wife and Karan going out of his way to keep checking on her (Niyati mentioned he calls every few hours to check on her), ALL this while staying under the same roof, what did anyone expect from her? Infact, it was shown that Karan had been neglecting her and their marriage was in trouble until Niyati/Reyansh's truth came out. What a contrast?!

In both cases, she hasn't seen them grow. The duration of the grandkids being raised together and them ALL knowing the truth, helps making peace with the past and helps differentiating the son from the father.

Here, she has suddenly come to see the same face that committed the heinous crime, how on earth does anyone feel, she would be fine with it and live under the same roof.

Finally, about Parth supporting Nandini.

When Reyansh spoke nonsense, the entire family was there, Nandini's husband did not speak, Tulsi who is known to stop the nonsense did not stop him, yes, Parth should have spoken, so should Karan and Tulsi. When they were shown to be "accommodating" Niyati and Reyansh, Parth did show his support of being there each time. About him "planning" the hospital visit, even Nandini enquired about Niyati after which she was given a mouthful of accusations by Tulsi. Why is him romancing Vaishnavi an implication that he doesn't care for his mother?

You are right, Parth and Samaira should support Nandini and leave Shantiniketan. Notwithstanding what others would try to convince them of (apne bachchon ke haq ke liye rukna etc.)

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Regardless of when Ekalavya was accepted, the point is that he was accepted. Karan's justification of hiding Niyati and Reyansh from the family was for 2 reasons:

1. Fear of acceptance by the family

2. To protect Nandini.

They would have been resolved because we were talking about a 10 year old boy and his traumatised mother. Besides, who/what was Karan trying to protect Nandini from?

Also, isn't Parth Karan and Tanya's son?

Like father like son, applies to anyone, Gautam said that to Karan. Somehow, that was not a wrong connotation.

I don't think Tulsi is guilty of killing Ansh as much as, she is guilty of the lost childhood and lost years of Niyati and Reyansh. She feels responsible for Ansh's lineage not getting there rightful place in Shantiniketan.

About Nandini hating Ekalavya or Reyansh, after what Ansh did to her and the fact that both of them look like Ansh, ehat would anyone expect from her?

The fact that Niyati believes and behaves as Karan's wife and Karan going out of his way to keep checking on her (Niyati mentioned he calls every few hours to check on her), ALL this while staying under the same roof, what did anyone expect from her?

In both cases, she hasn't seen them grow. The duration of the grandkids being raised together and them ALL knowing the truth, helps making peace with the past and helps differentiating the son from the father.

Here, she has suddenly come to see the same face that committed the heinous crime, how on earth does anyone feel, she would be fine with it and live under the same roof.

Eklavya was accepted because shradha was ansh's wife and eklavya was adopted by damini and gautam while everyone lived in sn. Since niyati's car accident happened becacuse of karan , he blamed himself for memory loss so how could he passed rio and ansh's responsibility to tulsi? Have you not seen how depressed and gulity was she over kiling ansh when she saw rio and know the tuth about rio and niyati from karan.

Karan hide rio and niyati from nandini because both were related to ansh and nandini hated ansh . As rio grew up , he started looking just like ansh, so karan kept hiding it because of the trauma .

So what if parth was tanya's son, even karan was mandira's son but look how much he did for tulsi .

So when did i say that i have an objection to why nandini hates eklavya and rio ? It was you who questioned whether nandini hated eklavya, so i said yes she did . I am a karan-nandini fan and i completely understand nandini's hatred .

Nandini told tulsi didn't i tell you that rio has the same blood running through ansh , and he proved it like father like son.

Did karan bring niyati and rio in sn ? No . It was tusi's decision. I also mentioned before that tulsi is wrong here nandini is right to confronted her . But why should nandini leave karan when he isn't even there? He even swore his relationship with niyati just for namesake .

Nandini only enquired abt niyati she didn't plan to visit her like parth. And it's you who said that only parth supports nandini that's why i said parth only supported her on what dev said but he didn't take any action what rio said to nandini.

Originally posted by: adeela

Eklavya was accepted because shradha was ansh's wife and eklavya was adopted by damini and gautam while everyone lived in sn. Since niyati's car accident happened becacuse of karan , he blamed himself for memory loss so how could he passed he pass rio and ansh's responsibility to tulsi? Have you not seen how depressed and gulity was over kiling ansh when she saw rio and know the tuth about rio and niyati from karan.

Karan hide rio and niyati from nandini because both were related to ansh and nandini hated ansh . As rio grew up , he started looking just like ansh, so karan kept hiding it because of the trauma .

So what if parth was tanya's son, even karan was mandira's son but look how much he did for tulsi .

So when did i say that i have an objection to why nandini hates eklavya and rio ? It was you who questioned whether nandini hated eklavya, so i said yes she did . I am a karan-nandini fan and i completely understand nandini's hatred .

Nandini told tulsi didn't i tell you that rio has the same blood running through ansh , and he proved it like father like son.

Did karan bring niyati and rio in sn ? No . It was tusi's decision. I also mentioned before that tulsi is wrong here nandini is right to confronted her . But why should nandini leave karan when isn't even there? He even swore his relationship with niyati just for namesake .

Again, you are mixing issues. Hating him for being someone's son v/s hating him because he looks like Ansh are 2 completely different things.

Nandini, understandably canNOT get past the face that gave her lifelong trauma. She hates Ansh, she hates the face that is a constant reminder of her horrible past.

When Nandini said, like father like son, it was the same as when Gautam told Karan like Father, like son. Besides, his actions, behaviour have been reflective of what she had seen of Ansh. Even if we were to forget other things, she cannot stand the constant reminder of Ansh thanks to Reyansh, in addition to this she has had to put up with Niyati and Karan and the awkwardness that comes with it and she is forced to be understanding and accommodating. Hence, she is doing what anyone in her situation who is subject to forcefully accept and live with a situation like this, out of desperation, constantly reminding that Reyansh is his father's reflection.

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Again, you are mixing issues. Hating him for being someone's son v/s hating him because he looks like Ansh are 2 completely different things.

Nandini, understandably canNOT get past the face that gave her lifelong trauma. She hates Ansh, she hates the face that is a constant reminder of her horrible past.

When Nandini said, like father like son, it was the same as when Gautam told Karan like Father, like son. Besides, his actions, behaviour have been reflective of what she had seen of Ansh. Even if we were to forget other things, she cannot stand the constant reminder of Ansh thanks to Reyansh, in addition to this she has had to put up with Niyati and Karan and the awkwardness that comes with it and she is forced to be understanding and accommodating. Hence, she is doing what anyone in her situation who is subject to forcefully accept and live with a situation like this, out of desperation, constantly reminding that Reyansh is his father's reflection.

The only part I would like mention is Nandini is not being forced to accept anything. She can easily move the Malabar Hills plot Karan bought or go back to US with her family. She is choosing to stay in SN.

That house belongs to TuHir and they should have the right to say who they want in the house.

Originally posted by: SaHi_Fan

The only part I would like mention is Nandini is not being forced to accept anything. She can easily move the Malabar Hills plot Karan bought or go back to US with her family. She is choosing to stay in SN.

That house belongs to TuHir and they should have the right to say who they want in the house.

Yes, agreed.

Nandini is a capable, independent woman. She should choose her self-respect. Especially after the accusations that have been meted.

Here, I guess Munni convinced her to stay back for the sake of the children's right and given Samaira has just recovered from a suicide attempt. I guess the children, Samaira included should support her in her decision to move out.