Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 41 - Page 58

Originally posted by: WittyKittyVixxy

Neetu looking pleased as plum; Ronnie do me a favour and divorce her.

Dua’s reality is #Mannat ‘s right to disclose, not Neetu.

Absolutely yes and his mistake he believed the photo Vish showed him + Mannat comparing Vikrant to someone after the lies were out. In his messed up state it all added up for him and believed Mannat agreed to marry someone else.

And I am with you, I don't believe he has trust issues, what he has is intolerance to lies 🙈. Lies and trust cannot be used in the same sentence.

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

here it would have been possible in two cases...

One dk and mannath couple - already vikrant accepted them as couple and believe mannath moved on... if mannath really moved on, vikrant might get hurt but still they could have lived under one roof- without telling truth to dua obviously

Another if mannath and vikranth accepted eachother ,dk with no feelings for mannath - he could have lived happily as bade papa.. with same bond as now... even vikranth wouldn't have mind or can change that bond.

But both is not possible now

Hi Sai, how are you.

Yeah both are possible if either DK or Vik is that big hearted. If you see from DK's perspective, he has higher moral stand point. He did everything selflessly for last 7 years...which actually is possible only if he is mahaan. If he is mahaan, he should take responsibility of clarifying about her birth. Dua might understand marriage, but how will she possibly understand her parents' relationship till she reaches adulthood? Vik should step away for Dua to prove that he is redeemed and actually cares for his chiild. That he is not just a sperm donor. If there had been a marriage, he would have gotten slightly more handle on Dua as well as the situation.

I also watch this show in bits and pieces, but the craziest part is how Mannat also left DK hanging with her responsibilities for 7 years! Who on earth does that? I dont know the whole thought process here, but I would definitely not take someone's help for free like that, and say him good bye. She HAS to give him Dua, period. Otherwise, I would judge her lowly. Remember DK is not Pakhi.

Very interesting that we are still on this lies and hiding the truth angle

When in the BTS released today... Vik himself agrees.. with rocket speed BTW... to keep the truth away from Dua so that it doesnt mess up her life

I actually loved that part... not because he agreed... but because thats a big step in his growth...

This is coming from a person who was bombarded with a harshest truth about his identity ... went on a downward spiral... lost his loved ones and suffered for so many years.... only to realize that they were right all along.... sometimes it's better to hide certain things to avoid creating a larger trauma!!!!!

P.S. will take this statement back if this part doesnt make it to the episode!!!!

I wont be surprised if the idea for custody comes from Y instead of Neetu (as per spoilers). Y knows Mannat wont leave Dua and thats what she is hoping for.

Vik might look at it as desperate measure if Mannat refuses to stay in Mumbai.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I also watch this show in bits and pieces, but the craziest part is how Mannat also left DK hanging with her responsibilities for 7 years! Who on earth does that? I dont know the whole thought process here, but I would definitely not take someone's help for free like that, and say him good bye. She HAS to give him Dua, period. Otherwise, I would judge her lowly. Remember DK is not Pakhi.

DK Mannat Vikrant are responsible adults.

Mannat did not force DK to take entire responsibility on his shoulder and not get married & lead his own separate married life...

Atleast thats what has been potrayed till the time they were in Indore...

Post meeting Vikrant and what all has happened till now and DK's perspective shown its clear that DK is playing mind games, on one hand he is trying to potray in front of Mannat & Ronnie that he is attached to Dua & will never allow anyone to snatch her away from him & on the other hands blurts out to Neetu that he might have started liking Mannat & also keeps on telling himself if Mannat would choose him over Vikrant even after knowing how much she still loves Vikrant...

So based on all the above reasons there is no such reason to believe that Mannat simply took his help & left him hanging like that...and Goodbye toh bola hi nai hai...Mannat herself keeps on reiterating that he will remain Dua's baba (which we all sometimes find irritating to hear but thats the truth).....

......And on that basis DK cannot simply just EB her & force her to give Dua to him. She is her mother, went through unimaginable pain to bring Dua to this world & will always have the first rights to decide what needs to be done. Even Vikrant can't force there...

Also, to add whatever DK did for Dua till now..if that was done selflessly or there has been some personal agenda involved....all these remains to be seen...

Originally posted by: Moor278

Very interesting that we are still on this lies and hiding the truth angle

When in the BTS released today... Vik himself agrees.. with rocket speed BTW... to keep the truth away from Dua so that it doesnt mess up her life

I actually loved that part... not because he agreed... but because thats a big step in his growth...

This is coming from a person who was bombarded with a harshest truth about his identity ... went on a downward spiral... lost his loved ones and suffered for so many years.... only to realize that they were right all along.... sometimes it's better to hide certain things to avoid creating a larger trauma!!!!!

P.S. will take this statement back if this part doesnt make it to the episode!!!!

My problem isn't about keeping truth away from Dua for the time being , it is the twisted narrative blaming it all on Vikrant and absolving themselves. Let's see if Mannat keeps her end of the promise to reveal to Dua in a calm manner or she will get EB again.

Weird how characters are WW by writers because they are female characters and anyone who support female characters are also WW. Now Neetu is bashed because she no longer supports Mannat, who was mother India pre-leap even per Mannat.

All the more weird Mannat questioning Neetu infront of Vikrant , why she didn't keep her promise of lying and hiding from Vikrant about Dua 😵‍💫. I will just clap back at the writers for the ridiculous scenes and dialogues supporting lies & deception since 5 months.

Originally posted by: Mona_HappyLife

DK Mannat Vikrant are responsible adults.

Mannat did not force DK to take entire responsibility on his shoulder and not get married & lead his own separate married life...

Atleast thats what has been potrayed till the time they were in Indore...

Post meeting Vikrant and what all has happened till now and DK's perspective shown its clear that DK is playing mind games, on one hand he is trying to potray in front of Mannat & Ronnie that he is attached to Dua & will never allow anyone to snatch her away from him & on the other hands blurts out to Neetu that he might have started liking Mannat & also keeps on telling himself if Mannat would choose him over Vikrant even after knowing how much she still loves Vikrant...

So based on all the above reasons there is no such reason to believe that Mannat simply took his help & left him hanging like that...and Goodbye toh bola hi nai hai...Mannat herself keeps on reiterating that he will remain Dua's baba (which we all sometimes find irritating to hear but thats the truth).....

......And on that basis DK cannot simply just EB her & force her to give Dua to him. She is her mother, went through unimaginable pain to bring Dua to this world & will always have the first rights to decide what needs to be done. Even Vikrant can't force there...

Also, to add whatever DK did for Dua till now..if that was done selflessly or there has been some personal agenda involved....all these remains to be seen...

@bold Oh dont take my words literally. What I meant is that Dua is DK's baby. And Mannat has to respect it.

Mona, I have no respect for the writers so my words might sound little deriding. Dont mind. What the writers are not able to capture here is the "emotions" between the adults. No one on earth can live under one roof with platonic relationships. Love, companionship, s*x is part of life especially when you are in 30-40s. You cant simple undo these feelings! unless you show the characters have extraordinarily control on their senses. Yes, love happens once and you can show it being sustained over years...for that...there should be a strong base. Lets assume ManVik indeed had a strong base, then they should come out clean when they met years later. If Dua is the conflict, they should try to work around her without taking people for granted iffff they are "good" people. What defines good is again in writers hand, who seem to be confused with definitions.

I am also not sure what they write. I have no much hopes there. DK till now has not been shown playing with Mannat's emotions right. Atleast thats what I understood. He seems to be a nice guy. Either they have to keep him like that and weave the plot. If they are making him insecure which are valid emotions, because he invested his energy and emotions. You cant say Mannat didnt ask for it. The fact is she is DK's wife in soceity's eyes. If she leaves him, he will be affected too. Who will marry him? Therefore, It is either a contract or commitment. There are no two ways. I mean Mannat can be grey and ignore all these moral questions, because in reality most poeple do that. Writers should atleast give that clarity. They cant show Mannat, a moralistic woman and then show her do things opposite. Same thing with DK. If he is selfless, weave the story around that. Now that he is grey, which is understandable, continue it. Dont keep flipping. With Mannat, give clarity on how much "morality" they are going to add to her personality and write accordingly. It is about convincing audience and making them empathize with their choices. If they keep changing people, then their choices keep changing. Why should we even bother about discussing anything if they keep changing at will. no point.

As far as I can recall... nobody is blaming Vikrant for the anger... Mannat herself acknowledged that right on the funeral ground even when Shrutis pyre was burning... aapka gussa jayaz hai...

She had realized her mistake even then... so had RoTu....

What they are upset about is how he reacted... and what all he did in his anger....

Because in the end everyone suffered because of his actions...

And now he himself agrees to that...

Vik fell for the manipulations of the vamp gang because he 'chose' to believe one side of the story ... only to find out 7 years later that it was with wrong intentions...

The lie wasnt to harm him... it was to protect him and to avoid the situation he and everybody else is currently. The intentions mattered... just like his intentions to protect Dua matter now!!!!

I dont like Neetu pre leap neither I like her now... maine tab bhi use selfish hi bola tha... aaj bhi bop rahi hun... not sure kab padha ki maine Neetu ka support kiya hai 😐

Originally posted by: sadiltl

@bold Oh dont take my words literally. What I meant is that Dua is DK's baby. And Mannat has to respect it.

Mona, I have no respect for the writers so my words might sound little deriding. Dont mind. What the writers are not able to capture here is the "emotions" between the adults. No one on earth can live under one roof with platonic relationships. Love, companionship, s*x is part of life especially when you are in 30-40s. You cant simple undo these feelings! unless you show the characters have extraordinarily control on their senses. Yes, love happens once and you can show it being sustained over years...for that...there should be a strong base. Lets assume ManVik indeed had a strong base, then they should come out clean when they met years later. If Dua is the conflict, they should try to work around her without taking people for granted iffff they are "good" people. What defines good is again in writers hand, who seem to be confused with definitions.

I am also not sure what they write. I have no much hopes there. DK till now has not been shown playing with Mannat's emotions right. Atleast thats what I understood. He seems to be a nice guy. Either they have to keep him like that and weave the plot. If they are making him insecure which are valid emotions, because he invested his energy and emotions. You cant say Mannat didnt ask for it. The fact is she is DK's wife in soceity's eyes. If she leaves him, he will be affected too. Who will marry him? Therefore, It is either a contract or commitment. There are no two ways. I mean Mannat can be grey and ignore all these moral questions, because in reality most poeple do that. Writers should atleast give that clarity. They cant show Mannat, a moralistic woman and then show her do things opposite. Same thing with DK. If he is selfless, weave the story around that. Now that he is grey, which is understandable, continue it. Dont keep flipping. With Mannat, give clarify on how much "moratlity" they are going to add to her personality and write accordingly. It is about convincing audience and making them empathize with their choices. If they keep changing people, then their choices keep changing. Why should we even bother about discussing anything if they keep changing at will. no point.

And thats exactly why I never had much issues and previously also stated its fine if DK has feelings for Mannat. He is also a human after all and staying under same roof can lead to it and it doesn't matter if they are pretending to be husband-wife or not...

My issue is his flipping statements which is quite visible in few episodes.

If he is confused about his feelings then fine which can also be a possibility but if he is not then he has been playing along since sometime...

There are too 2 things in here, his equation with Mannat & his equation with Dua...both are inter connected to each to other & if one gets affected, the other will get affected too so its obvious he would prefer to be careful..

Mannat is DK's wife in society's eyes, agreed, she has not denied it either...But that is outside the Indore house. Now what happens between them inside the house that equation also needs to be considered..am sure both agreed on this pretense to protect Dua, its not just Mannat's decision alone...

....But after all these years just because he has been part of Mannat & Dua's life & took care of them that doesn't mean he can use this as a bait and then keep on blackmailing Mannat for it as that is also not correct on moral grounds...it doesn't matter if Mannat asks for help or not (asking for help is not a sign of weakness)..Sure he can have expectations, that's again not an issue....

If in 7 years if for once Dhairya had this thought in his mind then he should have made it a point to discuss with Mannat considering both have good understanding with each other