International press slams Dhurandhar 2 - Page 9

Originally posted by: SlatePencil

He makes good videos on history and science to make people believe that he is a knowledgeable person. But the moment he switches to politics, his real propaganda is exposed. Moreover he has suddenly started supporting Rahul Gandhi One clown supporting another clown. I believe he gets funded by some foreign agency to speak against the government by showing only one side of the coin.

Dhruv literally used to work for AAP. He is anything but neutral.

Originally posted by: Bagarh.Billa

No, I didn't liked it. Hindi CInema's one of the Worst film.

Director ne....👇

Originally posted by: Bagarh.Billa

No, I didn't liked it. Hindi CInema's one of the Worst film.

One of Urdu cinemas worst films also

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

I don't know why people are being preechy and gaslighting Indians

I mean if you love terrorists so much then keep them in your home

Exactly, so much of preaching & gaslighting Indians for a movie exposing terrorists as merciless terrorists. I mean, some people have so much problem with Dhurandhar for giving the reality-check to the world how cruel, cold, stone-hearted are those monsters. Yes, Dhurandhar has only talked about the fact how gruesome terrorism is, If they're so pissed about showing the destruction of terrorists, & their heart is crying & sympathizing so much for terrorists then they can surely give them the shelter

So much of gaslighting & meltdown becz their ego is bruised that padosi mulk has been proven to be a terrorist breeding ground. Ik, their real pain-point is this.

Originally posted by: wat_up

Other thing not related but the songs it seems in this movie remake to popular songs such as oye oye etc.. so is their no original music? Though in some songs they added some rap to make it modern so that it appeals to the new generation and can be played in clubs!!

The.copyright to these songs can be purchased, I guess they can pay , seek permission & use them

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

I don't know why people are being preechy and gaslighting Indians

I mean if you love terrorists so much then keep them in your home

@bold - looking at the news about Europe, they’ve pretty much done that already. US doesn’t need outsiders for that job,*cough CIA cough* which is why the loudest noises are coming from them. They kinda feel offended because like Ranveer said … it’s personal 😜

Originally posted by: SlatePencil

Filhaal to Dhruv Rathee ki jali padhi hai He is so obsessed with Dhurandhar. It seems he is watching Dhurandhar daily in his dreams

Jab se usne Animal picture pe zeher ugla hai uski shakal bhi bardasht nahin hoti. Dedh shyaana samajhta hai khudko...

Originally posted by: wat_up

Other thing not related but the songs it seems in this movie remake to popular songs such as oye oye etc.. so is their no original music? Though in some songs they added some rap to make it modern so that it appeals to the new generation and can be played in clubs!!

There has been a significant decline in the quality of songs over the last decade or so in Bollywood. I’m not sure why. The best era in recent living memory was in the 90s to early 2000s. But gradually Bollywood managed to kill Indian pop music industry which was coming into its own and giving them a tough competition. So yeah, there’s a lack as far as musical talent goes in the industry - not because the talent doesn’t exist - but because those at the top didn’t allow it to thrive for a long time.

Talent is coming up now courtesy of social media where artists are no longer dependent on big labels to make music or money, but getting a big break that puts you on the map is still difficult in an industry that already has a lot of competition and not enough work.

Sachdev has put a lot of new artists on the map with these 2 albums and he may do so in the future too. It may take time but new music will flourish again.

Though I think the reason why Dhar and Sachdev have used old songs in the movie is also because they understand how music plays an integral part to the visual experience of watching a movie. Most of the songs they used in both the movies - ranging from the Ghazals like Kabhi Bekasi to bangers like Piya Tu are songs that most Bollywood fans are familiar with. That automatically makes them invested in the scene - the recall value of identifying a well known song.

Notice how most action sequences are set around songs that people are already used to humming, singing or even dancing too, usually involving killing of some important character/s. Dhar could have used tense music or the typical shooting sequence music that involves incorporating the sounds of bullets and whatever else is going on in the scene including the obvious sounds of those getting killed but he intentionally avoided it.

Take Aari Aari sequence in the beginning of D2 for example, Jaskirat has gone absolutely beast mode ballistic. Now imagine instead of the high octane voice of Sudhir Yaduvanshi singing the lines Baari Barsi in the small dingy room of the MLA’s house where Jassi kills those two goons with a single sword after he’s hacked at them with an axe we hear the sounds of them getting chopped up, their screams and yells. Imagine in the climax of D1, where instead of the title track we hear the grunts and punches and other sounds of the fight happening in the car between the 4 and ultimately 3 characters.. would the experience have been the same? I highly doubt it.

Dhar doesn’t want us to sympathise with the people Jassi/Hamza is killing and going about it brutally while at it. The sounds of their screams or just them getting hacked or whatever would’ve ultimately made the experience a bit unpalatable for a lot of people and also humanised them as we would be affected by sounds of human suffering regardless of who it comes from unless we are cold sociopaths who lack complete empathy and compassion. Dhar doesn’t want that - instead he’s telling us with these songs - take in the view, listen to the upbeat music and stay invested in the sequence where the hero is killing bad guys who deserve to be killed. Don’t focus on the brutality of the method but the act itself which in and of itself is not wrong as we know he hasn’t been going after random innocent people like some deranged serial killer looking to get some kicks, rather he’s highly motivated by the events that led him down this path from that of a simple man just aiming to serve his country as a soldier.

Ram Gopal Verma has compared using the music in the way Dhar and Sachdev have done akin to a state of trance and that’s exactly it. We don’t associate these numbers with gore or violence but rather something that we love, enjoy or find delight in. They’re not trauma inducing beats but sounds that we already associate with happy memories.

Using new songs may have done the trick, but it would have not kicked in the part of the brain that already associates these numbers with our previous happy memories of them. So what they’ve done is used human psychology to their advantage when adding these well known classics per the situation.

Also, in the process they’ve introduced a whole new generation of kids to classics while giving their parents and grandparents an unexpected taste of Rap that they’re enjoying too. It’s basically, best of both the worlds.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

There has been a significant decline in the quality of songs over the last decade or so in Bollywood. I’m not sure why. The best era in recent living memory was in the 90s to early 2000s. But gradually Bollywood managed to kill Indian pop music industry which was coming into its own and giving them a tough competition. So yeah, there’s a lack as far as musical talent goes in the industry - not because the talent doesn’t exist - but because those at the top didn’t allow it to thrive for a long time.

Talent is coming up now courtesy of social media where artists are no longer dependent on big labels to make music or money, but getting a big break that puts you on the map is still difficult in an industry that already has a lot of competition and not enough work.

Sachdev has put a lot of new artists on the map with these 2 albums and he may do so in the future too. It may take time but new music will flourish again.

Though I think the reason why Dhar and Sachdev have used old songs in the movie is also because they understand how music plays an integral part to the visual experience of watching a movie. Most of the songs they used in both the movies - ranging from the Ghazals like Kabhi Bekasi to bangers like Piya Tu are songs that most Bollywood fans are familiar with. That automatically makes them invested in the scene - the recall value of identifying a well known song.

Notice how most action sequences are set around songs that people are already used to humming, singing or even dancing too, usually involving killing of some important character/s. Dhar could have used tense music or the typical shooting sequence music that involves incorporating the sounds of bullets and whatever else is going on in the scene including the obvious sounds of those getting killed but he intentionally wanted to avoid it.

Take Aari Aari sequence in the beginning of D2 for example, Jaskirat has gone absolutely beast mode ballistic. Now imagine instead of the high octane voice of Sudhir Yaduvanshi singing the lines Baari Barsi in the small dingy room of the MLA’s house where Jassi kills those two goons with a single sword after he’s hacked at them with an axe… and we hear the sounds of them getting chopped up, their screams and yells. Imagine in the climax of D1, where instead of the title track we hear the grunts and punches and other sounds of the fight happening in the car between the 4 and ultimately 3 characters.. would the experience have been the same? I highly doubt it.

Dhar doesn’t want us to sympathise with the people Jassi/Hamza are killing as they’re doing so brutally at it. The sounds of their screams or just them getting hacked or whatever would’ve ultimately made the experience a bit unpalatable for a lot of people and also humanised them as we would be affected by sounds of human suffering regardless of who it comes from unless we are cold sociopaths who lack complete empathy and compassion. Dhar doesn’t want that - instead he’s telling us with these songs - take in the view, listen to the upbeat music and stay invested in the sequence where the hero is killing bad guys who deserve to be killed. Don’t focus on the brutality of the method but the act itself which in and of itself is not wrong as we know he hasn’t been going after random innocent people like some deranged serial killer looking to get some kicks, rather he’s highly motivated by the events that led him down this path from that of a simple man just aiming to serve his country as a soldier.

Ram Gopal Verma has compared using the music in the way Dhar and Sachdev have done akin to a state of trance and that’s exactly it. We don’t associate these numbers with gore or violence but rather something that we love, enjoy or find delight in. They’re not trauma inducing beats but sounds that we already associate with happy memories.

Using new songs may have done the trick, but it would have not kicked in the part of the brain that already associates these numbers with our previous happy memories of them. So what they’ve done is used human psychology to their advantage when adding these well known classics per the situation.

Also, in the process they’ve introduced a whole new generation of kids to classics while giving their parents and grandparents an unexpected taste of Rap that they’re enjoying too. It’s like best of both worlds.

Very well written post. Totally agree to it

Also, i might like to add my 2 cents...

The playful upbeat music during action & gore scenes reminded me of Kill Bill movie. I think Dhar might have taken inspiration from movies like Kill Bill that didn't have a tense music during fight & gore scenes, rather a playful music that added a certain beauty to those scenes.

In D2, for ex. during SP Chaudhary's assassination Tamma Tamma was playing instead of a tense or suspenseful music. We were enjoying the song & convo and then suddenly a boom. We knew something bad was going to happen, but tamma tamma kept us relaxed until the final unexpected shock.

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

Very well written post. Totally agree to it

Also, i might like to add my 2 cents...

The playful upbeat music during action & gore scenes reminded me of Kill Bill movie. I think Dhar might have taken inspiration from movies like Kill Bill that didn't have a tense music during fight & gore scenes, rather a playful music that added a certain beauty to those scenes.

In D2, for ex. during SP Chaudhary's assassination Tamma Tamma was playing instead of a tense or suspenseful music. We were enjoying the song & convo and then suddenly a boom. We knew something bad was going to happen, but tamma tamma kept us relaxed until the final unexpected shock.

Thank you ☺️

Yep. He made the sequence enjoyable as if we are watching a dance or something that’s choreographed to beats we already can tap our feet too. It’s an interesting and bold choice for a Bollywood movie.

Regarding Tamma Tamma, that scene has in particular gone viral and people are enjoying it. Aslam is not supposed to be a character who is purely clean and goody two shoes, so again Dhar doesn’t want us to mourn his loss onscreen. The genius of using Dutt’s own song there is what makes the whole thing so funny in a way it ideally shouldn’t have been. Notice how on instagram or YouTube or whatever app that clip comes, the one common comment is - Baba ke gaane pe Baba ki setting kar di.

People are finding humour in what is supposed to be a tragedy or at least a horrible thing to witness because they’re associating Dutt himself with the original song and what makes the hilarity even more interesting and ironically funny is that the song comes from a movie called Thanedaar where he played a fake cop while here he’s an actual cop.

The musical choices are inspired.

Personally I think the cheekiest one is Hum Pyaar Karne Waale … notice how they cut off the original lyrics at Jalnewaalo Ko Jaalayenge part. They don’t go for the rest. Jassi is a loving patriot being extracted from the clutches of death and he eventually literally burns Iqbal using kerosene🙊