**Dhruv Tara - Samay Sadi Se Pare Episode Discussion Thread #10 ** - Page 71

Originally posted by: Minhasmansi92

Mere pass 2 hai but mai unke kapde nhi chura sakti vo dono rehti hi aboard hai. 🤣

bad luck 😆

Originally posted by: Chinmayi18

Just because Tara 17th century se belong karti hai uske actions ko hum justify nahi kar sakte 👎🏼

Saman nyay ki bat karke apne papa ki mistakes ko justify karti hai ye ladki ye to 21st century behavior hua na jaha log itne selfish hote hai ki apne aur apni family ke aage unhe aur kuch bhi nahi dikhta 😕

Saxena family ke lies jab Dhruv ko pata chalenge I'm sure woh unki bhi class lega jaise usne jail ke bahar shushi ki li thi Kyunki Dr Dhruv me courage hai wrong ko wrong bolne ka phir samne koi apna ho ya stranger 👍🏼

Aur yahi quality princess me nahi hai jab shushi bakwas karti thi Tara khud ke liye stand leti thi but king ki wrong doings dekhkar isne 1 word bhi nahi bola

Kya bol raha tha Dhruv Ravi baba ki condition worse hai abhi me shadi ke bare me soch bhi nahi sakta to wrong kya hai isme?? Tumhare papa bimar hote to tum karti shadi Tara?

Mahaveer ko society ki padi hai Anusiya ke would be hubby ne suddenly kisi dasi se shadi kar li tab uski jag hasai nahi hui but princess ki shadi kuch dino ke liye postpone ho jayegi to jag hasai hogi inki 🙄

Dhruv ne gusse me 4 bate kya suna di royal family ko Tara usse gussa ho gayi jo hua so ho gaya ab tum chup ho jao shanti ke lessons de rahi thi

But jab Dhruv ne question puchha agar mai bhi tumhare pitashree ke sath wahi karu jo mere pita ke sath hua hai to??? (Ye sirf question tha statement nahi kiya tha D ne ki mai bhi tumhare papa ke sath same karunga jo mere papa ke sath hua!!!! ) to Tara ko kitna gussa aaya ise apne papa pyare hai to D ko bhi honge na simple Tara thodi maturity dikha sakti thi us scene me

In short D ne gusse me bhi kuch wrong nahi bola woh sirf Tara ko bol raha tha shanti ke lessons teach karna easy hai ek bar khud ko meri jagah rakh kar socho

I remember D ki engagement wale din Tara gayab ho gayi thi tab unknown city me Tara bechari kaha jayegi ye sochkar uski help ke liye D shushi ki care kiye bina Tara ke pichhe gaya tha

Aur kal jab D ne bola mai ja raha hu 21st century wapas Ravi baba ke sath tab Tara ne easily bol diya jao hum bhi nahi rokenge tumhe!!

Mai ye nahi bol rahi ki tara ko D se rukne ke liye bolna chahiye tha but Tara ne ek bar bhi nahi socha D ki koi identity nahi 21st century me plus Ravi baba ko aisi halat me kaise lekar jayega woh akele kaise survive karega bechara

Kal sirf D ke ek sentence se Tara extremely gussa ho gayi to king ke marne ke bad uska hate towards D kitna horrible hoga socho

I think you are still seeing Tara with 21st century lenses. She wants Dhruv to listen but he doesn’t want to do in that case no matter what anyone says it won’t make any difference.

Dhruv can get angry but he also knows other factors. Dhruv is a modern guy Tara isn’t. I don’t believe in arrange marriages and think it’s silly but many people have had successful arrange marriages which doesn’t mean I am right and they are wrong or vice versa.

Remember it was tara who proposed to postpone the marriage and if her dad thinks otherwise as an old fashioned king it makes sense. Twice almost a bride will be stigmatising for tara. And I highly doubt she would have agreed anyway.

If he is this angry and wants to leave even he knows he has no identity or anyone so if Tara in anger says go, why is that bad?

Tara left during Dhruvs engagement as she felt she is helping his family who told her to go. Here Dhruv himself wants to go and even he knows he has nothing there so if he is allowed to get angry then so can she. Dhruv going eye for an eye and then killing a man when he is sleeping is wrong and killing the head of the nation is death sentence regardless of centuries. As I said I can’t speak for others but if her dad is killed by her fiancé who wouldn’t hate? Just prior to that he is shouting eye for an eye and what he meant as a question or statement you expect 17th century people to interpret that? Dhruv is this angry when he seen how his father was tortured but he is alive and if Dhruv goes and kills an unarmed man in the middle of the night then why wouldn’t Tara be angry? She still goes to meet him whether to talk or something else don’t know but let’s see.

Also why does Dhruv thinks it was a plan? If it was a plan why even bother talking about Ravi. Let him rot in prison and no one would know. Samrat didn’t know until later so had they left it as is who would have known?

I think it was best he was left alone. In the past tara was the one that calmed him when he lost the plot with his engagement and maybe this time it’s not working. He told her our love is affected who wouldn’t be angry after that?

For me I hope they figure it out and looking at precap looks like god is helping them but I see Dhruv and Tara together and don’t think that their crime was that bad. His anger is justified I have said that repeatedly here but then her behaviour is too after her dad dies.

Originally posted by: vibha28

You are 100% right and I said the same thing in my post on Page 85, we have to take into consideration the time and how things were in 17th century. Queen herself took Dhruv to meet Ravi. The day her exile was over she brought up topic of Ravi. Before that no one would have listened to her or believed her and seen as a ploy to get out of exile.

I also think that if they wanted to hide Ravi why even bother showing him to Dhruv? He knows Queen had no idea until later and at that time Tara did best that she could. They did not have any agenda to beat Ravi or put him in prison it was the situation that caused all this.

Look at the US Embassy Seige in Iran when exiled king was allowed to enter USA for cancer treatment. Iranian public captured Americans and it took them over a year to get them out. The movie Argo describes it perfectly. It even cost Jimmy Carter his Presidency. Exile is not something where anyone can do anything. She was deprived love of her children.

What is most confusing is why the heck Ravi didn’t tell his wife what he was doing? If he thought queen was his sister then why not tell wife that? He runs off without telling anyone and Dhruv is offered as a consolation prize. That’s when he was deprived of his dad - mind you his own family is lying to him and have for the last 25years.

No , offence for Maharani ji . She is right in her place . We don't know about Ravi-maharani-sushi equation, so I think it will be better to wait for sometime before making any judgement👍🏼

Atleast makers Ravi baba ko bolne to de fir unhe bhi unki galtiyo ke liye roast Kare denge 😆

And yes , Saxena's are in fault also . Sushi ko trauma se nikalne ke liye , they gave him Dhruv , but didn't they realise that this could cause a trauma in the child's mind . Even a adult could not handle the situation, so how they did think it will not affect Dhruv's mind .But Dhruv doesn't know about this , so he is not partial at all , of he would know about it ,he will surely confront his family too👍🏼

Originally posted by: vibha28

What is most confusing is why the heck Ravi didn’t tell his wife what he was doing? If he thought queen was his sister then why not tell wife that? He runs off without telling anyone and Dhruv is offered as a consolation prize. That’s when he was deprived of his dad - mind you his own family is lying to him and have for the last 25years.

Ravi didn't plan to go Navarang that night. But Maharani insisted that she will immediately go. Ravi said then he will go along with her. Again Ravi thought he will be back in 2-3 hr after leaving her. Navarang van has some kind of hypnotic wave which will attract any nearby person. This is how Maharani and Senik went to 21st century accidentally.

Regarding sister thing, I think that is mention only in that night to console Maharani that he care for her safety. When we meet some stranger, we didn't not name any relationship even we are helping that stranger. Over period of time, we develop bond and then think of any name. Mostly when doubt raises, people uses this brother sister relationship. One example is Draupadi and Krishna. In real mahabharat there is no mention that they considered brother and sister. They were normal friend. Over period of time folklore are added because people become narrow minded that men and women can't be just friends.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Tough question- Yes and no IMO.

Yes because he would've probably liked to be in Jai's place (subconsciously). Everyone likes stability/normalcy of a "regular" family.

No because it does appear that Sushi really, really doted on him- so that "extra" love for someone who isn't quite your own blood will balance the giving away of a kid, ITV style. Plus his real parents were always around him, so it's not like he didn't grow up around them or not knowing them as people.

I agree here but I also think a child’s initial years are very important and having a male figure is needed. Not disrespecting any single mothers as I think they are brilliant and better than any man. He has seen sushila pent for her husband to the point she wouldn’t even celebrate any festivals.

I do want him to think though that it’s situation that sometimes doesn’t help. I hope he and Tara figure out the current mess and then together grow in their love. I genuinely want them to realise that no matter what love triumphs all.

Originally posted by: Neutral2

I will blame him for hypocrisy. He blamed Tara's family for selfishness. What Dhruv did? He comes to 17th century not to save Mahaveer

https://twitter.com/dorama_daisuki5/status/1688026111886979072?s=20

Jab pyar tha hi nahi tab bhi Dhruv ready tha ek stranger ki help karne ke liye

Jab Dhruv ne mahaveer ki life save ki, queen ko freedom dilaya tab Tara ko pyar hua to Tara ka pyar bhi sachha nahi hai conditional hai

We can understand if it happen one time, out of anger he said many thing. But again and again he is blaming Tara's family, not even listening to what they are saying, I will say he is wrong in judgement

Mai bhi same bolti agar upcoming bts me Dhruv ko jail me baithkar tara aur uski family ki safty ke liye worried hote hue nahi dekha hota to

Originally posted by: Tia-life

No , offence for Maharani ji . She is right in her place . We don't know about Ravi-maharani-sushi equation, so I think it will be better to wait for sometime before making any judgement👍🏼

Atleast makers Ravi baba ko bolne to de fir unhe bhi unki galtiyo ke liye roast Kare denge 😆

And yes , Saxena's are in fault also . Sushi ko trauma se nikalne ke liye , they gave him Dhruv , but didn't they realise that this could cause a trauma in the child's mind . Even a adult could not handle the situation, so how they did think it will not affect Dhruv's mind .But Dhruv doesn't know about this , so he is not partial at all , of he would know about it ,he will surely confront his family too👍🏼

There are so many things hidden from Dhruv but then again at that time, they thought it was the right thing to do. What no one took into account is what will happen when Dhruv gets to know everything. Kabhi na kabhi toh usse pata chalna hi hai aur jab pata chalega he will still be as heartbroken as he is knowing that ravi baba is his father. It will take years for him to get out of this trauma.

Originally posted by: Chinmayi18

Ha muze trust hai tab bhi D ka reaction same hi hoga kyunki woh meri family Tara ki family me farak nahi karta

Last time jail ke bahar shushi se isi tone me bat ki thi D ne jis tone me king se bat ki usne tab bhi Tara ko use calm down karna pada tha

Jis tarah se Ravi baba ke sath hue injustice ke liye stand liya usi tarah se Agni pariksha ke time queen ke liye bhi stand liya tha jab ki koi jarurat bhi nahi thi kyunki tab queen ke khud ke bachhe sirf rone me time waste kar rahe the

And that is because he believes in equality and Tara has never known it. Remember when he was saying no to marry Tara thought can you even say no to marriage forever? Her mind is of a conservative 17th century royal.

We are thinking like Dhruv because none of us can put up with those backward practices but in 17th century that was the norm. For an atheist religion is stupidity but for someone who is devout they think atheists are an abomination. They are both right in their place it’s whose side one relates to most.

The injustice wasn’t deliberate and that’s what king was trying to explain to him. He can get angry but then so can others. Tara calmed him down during his mom time and she tried this time but he is not wiling to listen then what can anyone do. They apologised, they explained, they pleaded - if that’s not working then what can be done? If he wants to hit king then no one will agree including Tara. Had Tara allowed Dhruvs mom to go to prison because she went too then would that have sorted the matter?

Originally posted by: Tia-life

No , offence for Maharani ji . She is right in her place . We don't know about Ravi-maharani-sushi equation, so I think it will be better to wait for sometime before making any judgement👍🏼

Atleast makers Ravi baba ko bolne to de fir unhe bhi unki galtiyo ke liye roast Kare denge 😆

And yes , Saxena's are in fault also . Sushi ko trauma se nikalne ke liye , they gave him Dhruv , but didn't they realise that this could cause a trauma in the child's mind . Even a adult could not handle the situation, so how they did think it will not affect Dhruv's mind .But Dhruv doesn't know about this , so he is not partial at all , of he would know about it ,he will surely confront his family too👍🏼

Yes I completely agree with you there and again you are right that let Ravi talk then we will know.

For me a child’s trauma is more important than an adult’s. A kid who grew up without a real dad like Jay must be traumatic. He had the love but not the same as Jay. Sushila was depressed about her husband running way - still is and that must have had an impression on him.

I really hope it’s not Dhruv that killed the king and if he did then let’s hope he was under the influence as killing an unarmed and an asleep man is an act of cowardice and I know Dhruv is not like that.

Originally posted by: Neutral2

Ravi didn't plan to go Navarang that night. But Maharani insisted that she will immediately go. Ravi said then he will go along with her. Again Ravi thought he will be back in 2-3 hr after leaving her. Navarang van has some kind of hypnotic wave which will attract any nearby person. This is how Maharani and Senik went to 21st century accidentally.

Regarding sister thing, I think that is mention only in that night to console Maharani that he care for her safety. When we meet some stranger, we didn't not name any relationship even we are helping that stranger. Over period of time, we develop bond and then think of any name. Mostly when doubt raises, people uses this brother sister relationship. One example is Draupadi and Krishna. In real mahabharat there is no mention that they considered brother and sister. They were normal friend. Over period of time folklore are added because people become narrow minded that men and women can't be just friends.

I thought Queen lived with them? Didn’t sushila said that last time a woman stayed she took my husband?

But yes to your second point there is a possibility. He didn’t say anything about the portal and queen was exiled. I want him to talk now and ask Dhruv aren’t you my brothers son but wonder if he would believe that or think it’s the curses doing?