Habs: Feroze Khan, Ushna Shah (ARY drama) DT#2 "Saiyaan...Jaane Na" - Page 38

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Originally posted by: twerping

Guys, I know this is a thread where we engage in lighthearted banter and fangirling over shows. But we all come from the real world and are aware of the real issues of the day. I guess we are all following the escalating and horrible situation of the floods in different parts of Pakistan. I am trying to find out which agency to donate to that is most suitable for Indians (Khalsa Aid did substantial work during the earthquakes) but meanwhile here is a link to a list of places that donations can be made to

Finally the Indian followers of the show and fans of Feroze can do our bit. Khalsa Aid has started their relief work in the flood affected areas in Pakistan.

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

Basit, the boy is so damaged that even if Sadia would try for a million years, the love she had for him never reached his heart, her abandonment tainted him completely, every time he’d go near her, he would either see hypocrisy or the failure to be a child worth of love and importance, he clearly says I don’t know whether my baba or mumma was at fault, but I clearly am damaged.

whatever he said it shared with her about his insecurities till now has become a reason to be mocked at his mom’s funeral.

This!!! I’m randomly popping up here just to rant about it a little and I completely agree with this! I don’t at all appropriate how she is being so dismissive of Basit and his childhood traumas and how she expects him to let go of everything just coz his mom came back to him out of the blue after all these years claiming to love him. He has every right to feel the way he does and he has every right to take as much time as he needs to heal from that childhood trauma. It was so low of Ayesha for saying all those awful stuff at the funeral and taking jabs at him every now and then. 👎🏼 I’m glad at least Fahad told her off and asked her not to keep taunting him at every opportunity she gets!

I hope, she’ll mellow down now a little and try to support Basit instead of being dismissive or forcing upon him what she think he should feel.

Originally posted by: SRKian

This!!! I’m randomly popping up here just to rant about it a little and I completely agree with this! I don’t at all appropriate how she is being so dismissive of Basit and his childhood traumas and how she expects him to let go of everything just coz his mom came back to him out of the blue after all these years claiming to love him. He has every right to feel the way he does and he has every right to take as much time as he needs to heal from that childhood trauma. It was so low of Ayesha for saying all those awful stuff at the funeral and taking jabs at him every now and then. 👎🏼 I’m glad at least Fahad told her off and asked her not to keep taunting him at every opportunity she gets!

I hope, she’ll mellow down now a little and try to support Basit instead of being dismissive or forcing upon him what she think he should feel.

Hey Ani...I am guessing you caught up with the episodes. 😆

there has been a lot of discussion on this issue here already, but still will just put in my 2 pence..

I don't think anyone will say what Ayesha did was right, but there is reason to why she attacked Basit the way she did. Ayesha since her marriage has found love from Sadia and seen just how much Sadia loved Basit. She had seen Sadia's torment, her grief and how Basit's behaviour hurt Sadia daily. Ayesha is no goddess who has some kind of way to know Basit inside and out, understand his pain and torment like it was her own. Sadia saw Basit's anger at her as him reacting out of his pain and grief, but Ayesha does not understand that.

In fact she has seen Basit's coldness, that he doesn't care about others. So she is blaming him for his behaviour towards Sadia. She herself is a daughter who has grown up forgiving her mother over and over again. She does not understand why Basit cannot forgive his mother. His words about how he wants personal space in their relationship, that he did not even care about the dinner Ayesha attended on her own, etc has made her believe Basit does not need anyone in his, doesn't care about anyone in his life. She doesn't know what Basit went through when he lost his father. She doesn't understand why Basit is so angry at his mother. Ayesha has a blinkered vision when it comes to Basit and she has a prejudice about him. That is why she is behaving the way she is because she thinks that he should finally accept the fact that his behaviour had hurt his mother.

What she does not see is that he did go to Sadia at the end. The morning he found her dead, Basit listening to Ayesha's advice had gone to speak to Sadia. Maybe he would have spoken to her finally and heard her point of view as well. But as he said to fahad, it was too late.

Fahad is Basit's childhood friend. Of course he will understand Basit better than Ayesha. Fahad tries to point Ayesha in the right direction. Even Qudsia tells Ayesha to not sprinkle salt on Basit's wounds. So Ayesha while she is behaving in an immature and judgmental way, is receiving good advice.

What I thought was really exciting was the fact that Basit was actually hurt by Ayesha's opinion of him. That she thought him to be insensitive and heartless, had actually hurt Basit. It really shows how much he cares what Ayesha thinks of him which points out what Ayesha's presence in his life means to him. He tried to explain to Ayesha why he had behaved the way he did. That conversation in some ways was a mirror to the car conversation earlier. The previous time Ayesha had opened her heart and Basit had been unable to understand her. This time Basit opened his heart and Ayesha was unable to understand him. Yet he trusted her and cared enough to open his heart to her. When he sees that she is unable to understand him you see Basit visibly retreat into a shell, his face hardens, he nods noncommittally. Next morning he is slightly pissed at her, doesn't open the door when she knocks. Taunts indirectly that she doesn't understand him. These are big changes happening in Basit. Ayesha is blind to the changes of course, but you see when she does behave wrongly, the show through other characters tell her that her behaviour is not right. Maybe next episode will have her finally understand Basit a bit, or maybe not.. I don't know...but all this sure adds to the angst!! Which I am LOVING!!!

Originally posted by: reshamc

@bold: seems to be going that way. But I really hope we are proven wrong. Basit and Fahad friendship is too precious. It shouldn't get tainted for a plot twist.

What I hope to see is that he realises that Ayesha is always smiling at Fahad's presence. And he gets jealous over the fact that Basit cannot make her laugh like that. Would be lovely to see that.

True about Basit's sadness also being flip-flop like his anger😆 When he finally opens the door and says abhi zinda hoon, not gonna lie, I laughed.

Bano maintaining her professionalism was such a treat to see. Looking forward to more scenes of them together.

@ bold - Yes, it would be lovely to see this.

Frankly I am no fan of the whole tortured yet successful hero trope. I find it somehow unauthentic. But I think the makers have done a great job balancing it with a heroine who while appears from lesser economic strata holds her own, with values that are eternal - that of internal strength, patience, stillness and hope. This is difficult to achieve.

To me, the scene where Ayesha yells at Basit when he is about to take his mother’s dead body, is the most brilliant scene.
It shows us that while internally you may go through lots of struggles, the reality is you need to confront your inner self and no one better than your partner to show you that mirror.

Tbh, I was not as impressed with the actor’s portrayal of his inner struggle, as I am impressed with the actress’s portrayal of her character’s strength and courage of conviction. Basit’s struggle is an age old story, it’s been done, but Ayesha’s handling is novel yet realistic.

Was wondering...so much is happening with our director sahib and you are missing in action...

Originally posted by: twerping

Fahad indeed is the director, Musaddiq Malek...the scene in the kitchen was just the lightness we needed towards the end. Bano-Basit scene really was pure joy to watch. And when Ayesha and Bano hugged, there was such a sweet smile on Basit's face! He appreciates Ayesha's love for her sister. I hope Bano will help Basit with the negotiations at this point since he is not in the frame of mind to focus on work fully.

Also Bano and Ayesha might be more like their dad, you never know...Zoya being the youngest probably didn't get to be around her dad (owing to his death) too much and so turned out the way she did.

but Amir-Zoya scene was funny today and was a good way to give us breaks from the intense and raw pain in Basit's house.

Loved reading your take.
@ bold - actually i interpreted it differently, it’s not that you will be same as your mom or your dad. It’s that how do we react or grow or evolve given our circumstances. For me, the three girls represent three different ways of that growth. Frankly, something Basit could benefit from by just observing. The girls have it bad from all ends, but none of them have a linear personality. They adapt yet keep their individuality.
I was in the minority during the beginning of the show, where I loved how the show portrayed Ayesha’s home. It told of the incessant need for money and yet the three sisters bonded like none other, in the small home, they are on top of each other, but there for each other, even as they fight and scream. Basit’s home (here home is a metaphor for life and persona) is expansive but empty and often silent, that when the silence breaks, it’s seems heart wrenching.

unhappiness is there in both homes, but circumstances are different. What I loved is that the show didn’t go “contrastic” but layered.
Loved reading your thoughts, pls keep them coming

Originally posted by: columbia

@ bold - Yes, it would be lovely to see this.

Frankly I am no fan of the whole tortured yet successful hero trope. I find it somehow unauthentic. But I think the makers have done a great job balancing it with a heroine who while appears from lesser economic strata holds her own, with values that are eternal - that of internal strength, patience, stillness and hope. This is difficult to achieve.

To me, the scene where Ayesha yells at Basit when he is about to take his mother’s dead body, is the most brilliant scene.
It shows us that while internally you may go through lots of struggles, the reality is you need to confront your inner self and no one better than your partner to show you that mirror.

Tbh, I was not as impressed with the actor’s portrayal of his inner struggle, as I am impressed with the actress’s portrayal of her character’s strength and courage of conviction. Basit’s struggle is an age old story, it’s been done, but Ayesha’s handling is novel yet realistic.

Very fresh perspective and so true! Yes, we have seen tortured heroes, but Ayesha is a very unique sort of heroine. Her qualities are ones that make her admirable at the same time as very relatable.

That scene when Ayesha scolds Basit (before the coffin), I thought that in Basit and Ayesha's eyes they were the only two people in the room.

Acting wise, I really do not want to make any comparisons but while it is easy to praise FK for his acting prowess, you are right that we need to recognise Ushna's performance. She never lets the performance of Ayesha's anger at Basit to go into some kind of extreme. That balance keeps it natural, relatable. Like it could have happened in any of our homes.

And yes! It is time to have a heroine who doesn't keep mum in consideration of how her words will impact her man. Ayesha lets it out. She shows him the mirror.

Originally posted by: columbia

Loved reading your take.
@ bold - actually i interpreted it differently, it’s not that you will be same as your mom or your dad. It’s that how do we react or grow or evolve given our circumstances. For me, the three girls represent three different ways of that growth. Frankly, something Basit could benefit from by just observing. The girls have it bad from all ends, but none of them have a linear personality. They adapt yet keep their individuality.
I was in the minority during the beginning of the show, where I loved how the show portrayed Ayesha’s home. It told of the incessant need for money and yet the three sisters bonded like none other, in the small home, they are on top of each other, but there for each other, even as they fight and scream. Basit’s home (here home is a metaphor for life and persona) is expansive but empty and often silent, that when the silence breaks, it’s seems heart wrenching.

unhappiness is there in both homes, but circumstances are different. What I loved is that the show didn’t go “contrastic” but layered.
Loved reading your thoughts, pls keep them coming

Yes, you are right about the three girls, their personalities and the relationship the three share. There is something very realistic about the depiction of sisterhood in this show. And yess.. I want Basit to become more engaged in Ayesha's family and family life. Especially considering he has been the lonely princeling all his life, to see how these three fight, bond, protect, share, scold, advice and love each other is going to be best life lesson he can receive.

I don't particularly wish to protect Basit from Ayesha's family, rather he needs to understand that is how a family works. Not everything is perfect, and not everything will go your way but you still carry on, and try to make the best of things.

Love how you describe the difference between Ayesha's home and Basit's...and such a vital point that the show does not do contrasts but rather adds layers. That is a brilliant observation and in fact applies to character building in the show as well.

These discussions see us through the week till the next episode...otherwise would have perished from the cruel torturous wait.