Why Sooryavanshi's success at the box office should worry us all - Page 11

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

Centuries old shit? Like temples being razed to the ground or countless people being butchered by invaders like Ghazni or Taimurlang? Is that what you mean by "centuries old shit"? 😆

And yeah, terror has not been a problem for how many years? 2-3? We had the Pulwama attacks in 2019 itself. Before that, Uri and Pathankot. Strange coming from someone who liked to bring out "centuries old shit". 🤪

See it's 'your type' who like to agree with the likes of Rana Ayyub who is forever crying victimhood at the hands of eeeevil Hindus. I see you conveniently avoided my point on the Deganga riots. Not surprising at all.

No one denies that bad things happened but that was normal back then. Human rights and in general not having constant wars and massacres are a recent phenomenon. Your type pushes this Hindu utopia before the big bad evil muslims came which shows how little you know about history (surprised you haven't whined about Hindu "genocides"). Muslims have been here now for 1000+ years and still you see them as foreigners and bash them for their history. Now that's pathetic, especially with how bhakts simp for the British considering what they did was worse and more recent.

Those attacks are literally part of the Kashmir issue that I talked about (terrorists supported by Pakistan), what do the 200+ million Muslims in India have to do with it?

Just like you avoided my point about how Christians were assaulted repeatedly last month, literally your reply was "what about Muslims doing bad stuff". Classic bhakt behaviour, not sure why you are dishonest. Just admit you are one lol

Originally posted by: Journey95

Seems like you have reading comprehension problems. I already said I have no problem with movies with Muslim terrorists or invaders as villians but the important part is the execution & also what the current political climate is.

In the past few years all historical movies have had cartoon muslim villians (as if there was no Indian history before Muslims or not some nuance where various Hindus supported Muslims as well), then we have movies like this with muslim terrorists. Then there are movies with Pakistani's (Muslims) as bad guys. There is no balance whatsoever

At the same time the BJP and their IT cell spread hate against Muslims as well and you really think this is comparable with some Hindu godmen villian from 7+ years ago? Your victim complex is typical from bhakts who think Hindus have been oppressed all along...

I never complained about movies like Sarfrosh and Border because they weren't there to spread hate and push some agenda. And we had plenty of movies with good muslim representation in general. Now that's non existent

Bold: Ah, so you have problems with showing ANY Muslim character in bad light. So why the pretense? As far as I know, none of the movies with "cartoon Muslim characters" were Islamophobic or showed all Muslims in a bad light. So basically what you're saying is, "Don't make ANY MOVIE with Muslim villains while Modi is in power".

Sorry, but not happening. Also, this 'balancing' thing is bullshite. Sooryavanshi showed positive Muslim characters as well. So GTFO.

And your whining does not make any sense since as someone rightly said, Sarfarosh was criticised for being anti-Muslim. So this really has nothing to do with the "current political climate" you see.

But you're welcome to your delusions.

Originally posted by: Journey95

No one denies that bad things happened but that was normal back then. Your type pushes this Hindu utopia before the big bad evil muslims came. Muslims have been here now for 1000+ years and still you see them as foreigners and bash them for their history. Now that's pathetic, especially with how bhakts simp for the British considering what they did was worse and more recent.

Those attacks are literally part of the Kashmir issue that I talked about (terrorists supported by Pakistan), what do the 200+ million Muslims in India have to do with it?

Just like you avoided my point about how Christians were assaulted repeatedly last month, literally your reply was "what about Muslims doing bad stuff". Classic bhakt behaviour, not sure why you are dishonest. Just admit you are one lol

What Hindu utopia did I talk about? Are you in your senses? You are the one who brought up History and shite. And I'm not a bhakt, so I don't simp for British rule. You're the one bringing up all this. Sorry, but putting words in someone's mouth is not the way to debate. 😆

And yes, you're still unable to counter my points.

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

Bold: Ah, so you have problems with showing ANY Muslim character in bad light. So why the pretense? As far as I know, none of the movies with "cartoon Muslim characters" were Islamophobic or showed all Muslims in a bad light. So basically what you're saying is, "Don't make ANY MOVIE with Muslim villains while Modi is in power".

Sorry, but not happening. Also, this 'balancing' thing is bullshite. Sooryavanshi showed positive Muslim characters as well. So GTFO.

And your whining does not make any sense since as someone rightly said, Sarfarosh was criticised for being anti-Muslim. So this really has nothing to do with the "current political climate" you see.

But you're welcome to your delusions.

Wrong again, maybe read my post again but you seem to have a problem and instead get constantly butthurt. I said just constantly making movies with Muslim villians while also pushing anti Muslim propaganda in general via media & social media is problematic. 90s-2000s Movies had a much better balance here. There were good movies like Border, Safrosh, Jodha Akbar, Lakshya etc. all handled this better despite some of them having muslim antagonists as well.

And Sooryavanshi had token muslim characters with no agency or character whatsoever, I guess that's how you want Muslims to be like. Either be token "yes man" in the corner or cartoon villians.

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

What Hindu utopia did I talk about? Are you in your senses? You are the one who brought up History and shite. And I'm not a bhakt, so I don't simp for British rule. You're the one bringing up all this. Sorry, but putting words in someone's mouth is not the way to debate. 😆

And yes, you're still unable to counter my points.

Well you were complaining about the evil Muslim invaders, acting like the place was some utopia before them. You think they were the only ones who committed massacres and destroyed shit?

I already countered all your points but we know you can't read properly

Originally posted by: Journey95

Wrong again, maybe read my post again but you seem to have a problem and instead get constantly butthurt. I said just constantly making movies with Muslim villians while also pushing anti Muslim propaganda in general via media & social media is problematic. 90s-2000s Movies had a much better balance here. There were good movies like Border, Safrosh, Jodha Akbar, Lakshya etc. all handled this better despite some of them having muslim antagonists as well.

And Sooryavanshi had token muslim characters with no agency or character whatsoever, I guess that's how you want Muslims to be like. Either be token "yes man" in the corner or cartoon villians.

Which propaganda? Please name it. Were the 1993 blasts not real? What exactly did they show that made you think that "they want to paint ALL Muslims in a bad light"?

Also, do you realize that Sooryavanshi had all Pakistani villains and none were Indian Muslims?

Dude, you're making my head hurt with your nonsensical rants. Please go take a nap.

Originally posted by: Journey95

Well you were complaining about the evil Muslim invaders, acting like the place was some utopia before them. You think they were the only ones who committed massacres and destroyed shit?

I already countered all your points but we know you can't read properly

Well, YOU are the one who wrote about "centuries old stuff" before that. And I never mentioned any Utopia. Dude, you're so confused. You can't keep track of what you write. 🤣

Originally posted by: Journey95

Wrong again, maybe read my post again but you seem to have a problem and instead get constantly butthurt. I said just constantly making movies with Muslim villians while also pushing anti Muslim propaganda in general via media & social media is problematic. 90s-2000s Movies had a much better balance here. There were good movies like Border, Safrosh, Jodha Akbar, Lakshya etc. all handled this better despite some of them having muslim antagonists as well.

And Sooryavanshi had token muslim characters with no agency or character whatsoever, I guess that's how you want Muslims to be like. Either be token "yes man" in the corner or cartoon villians.

@Border & Lakshya: What Muslim antagonists did they have? I watched both the movies umpteen number of times but didn’t see any such thing. May be you have seen something that I missed. Care to throw some light on it?

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

Which propaganda? Please name it. Were the 1993 blasts not real? What exactly did they show that made you think that "they want to paint ALL Muslims in a bad light"?

Also, do you realize that Sooryavanshi had all Pakistani villains and none were Indian Muslims?

Dude, you're making my head hurt with your nonsensical rants. Please go take a nap.

The person clearly mentioned Pakistanis being shown as villains is also problematic to him/her because apparently they are muslims. Lol, s/he even went as far as calling Border and Lakshya having ‘Muslim’ antagonists. Ab batao!😆