2 Trains Passing Each Other By- The Stage is Set - Page 9

Originally posted by: msin

I feel the same .. they will keep on rinsing repeating the same things .. without confronting it fully .. it is clear from many episodes .. that virat shows no desire to even talk to pakhi ..

But Sai refuses to acknowledge it .. in her mind she sees them as true lovers .. so let samrat make an appearance.. both of them can renounce their partners to reunite these two ..

They both will be able to see .. definetely Sai should be able to see what a hare brained idea it is .. to even think that virat n pakhi can ever patch up ..

I must say kudos to virat .. atleast he could acknowledge in his mind he and pakhi can never be .. right from the start of the engagement to samrat .. and started letting her go ..

I just want samrat to enter cNiwas .. .. let him spend one night in one room with PP .. then hopefully things will become more clear for Sai ..

@bold exactly. I am going to look at it as a comedy show as much as possible since they are going to play the tape recorder of washing powder Nirma to delay the confession 🤣.

This is a beautiful analysis💜 I couldn’t make myself watch it… too heavy duty stuff for a monday!

When will these people gather the courage and speak up!! Hurting eachother and themselves and causing anxiety to us.🤦‍♀️

You know Pooja when did it hurt me the most.. That girl had to listen about her Husband's chemistry with some other woman and yet not react much.. She hardly say anything...and then in all this, she thought just one thing, she has to reunite Pakhi and Virat..She knows its the most difficult thing for her to do and yet she is okay doing it... That's what Sai's love for Virat is..So subtle..so concealed that even Virat fails to gather it...Heck Virat had Sunny to tell him that he is in love with Sai and yet he was confused.. Sai ka pyaar toh koi kya hi samjhega..

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Watched the episode. Too many blunders and haphazard dubbing but can we blame 🤨? We want sairat so we should go with the flow 🙁

Ok I like how they tied Sai’s confusion and upcoming kaand. In KD because of language barrier I could not get why sai could be so upset!!! But here it makes sense. Sai could now fake her anger too to distance herself, looks like that only to me 😳. placing yoga teacher here made sense in a way that it bolsters Sai’s MU and her later behavior . So I can’t blame sai now. Poor thing with her kind of heart and her love for virat, she behaves like we all expect 😓. Beauty of the initial dialogue (sorry jelebi) exchange is that sai speaks her mind saying the girl must have come due to love… then virat makes sure it is not zimmedari…sai catches it in a wrong way, answers disappointingly that it could be as well zimmedari… virat is taken aback… he says sometimes he feels she might be loving him… then sai who is in zimmedari mindspace speaks his worst fears.. that she is putting up a show to make him happy and May be he is not her ideal partner!!! See the ‘dance’ of their MU… how truthfully it started!! How it ended!! Their insecurities are bared today. Now with our evil yoga teacher in the picture whose yoga is of no use atleast to figure out the guy is with a girl who has magalsutra dangling…and both are at lovers point… talks rubbish.. pushing sai to sacrifice mode 😳

Virat!!! What can I say about This unfortunate being 😖. He is like this brainless woodcutter who cuts the branch he is sitting on and who digs the ground under his feet. He doesn’t remember anything from his past so much so that he forges the same story with sai…like it is happening to him NOW 😳. No one needs to be as Clever as sai to link the story with pakhi! I felt bad for him. This guy is so over the past but his words tie him to it due to his over cautious ness. I always believed virat doesn’t confess because he wants to be 💯 % sure sai is in this relationship as much as he is! He loves her too much to give that choice to her! It is costing him here. His heart is already breaking because of Sai’s inability to access his mind. Really feel bad for him.


Pakhis owes appeared like real but what’s the trigger… again that virat has moved on… her worry is not because samrat went missing.. that’s the problem. How can she find happiness when she wants to drink water from a mirage..knowing virat is unattainable for her, she links her life with him. No wonder she feels empty. Till this point I can empathize with her but tomorrow if she reveals virats anniversary lie, then how to sympathize with her situation? There is no reason to bring this if she is just concerned about her life… that’s where pakhi falters as a human being. She doesn’t live and let live… she wants revenge! She wants the suffering of the individual who she claims to love…

I felt today virat is reciting samrats story. Samrat truly loved pakhi.. may be he fell for her beauty or seemingly quite nature when he first interacted with her. He could not see her with virat so he left … not sure though till I watch the Next episodes.

Ps: see sai confesses first because When her questions are answered she Will see his love clearly without doubt. But the answers will be found only after washing away their insecurities in their tears 😭

My heart goes for sai but she is idiot for not atleast giving a thought with logic to virat actions...but today I can't blame her

My heart goes for virat but he is stupid to not even understand what he is talking and no understanding sai is upset

My heart goes for Samrat too but he is duffer to leave his family for pakhi but I guess he left his family bcoz of virat but not because of pakhi

My heart today didn't go for pakhi today, bcoz she is as you said she won't live or not anyone live... She is like if I can't get it no one can

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Beautiful analysis Pooja ❤️.

The title was pitch perfect. Thats what kept running through my mind too - how they feel and want the same things and yet when it comes to communication, both talk are in completely tangential planes.

The initial part of the story did give a glimpse into Sai's mind as you have so beautifully explained. But Virat ...he was exactly like the woodcutter @sadiltl mentioned. Casually used the zimmedari word again ....for him zimmedari, deal, vaada are just words ...they don't have any significance. But for Sai they are reality...atleast the reality she believes. And therein lies the problem.

From his POV, both did not want to be married to each other. But after all that, beyond even his past, he slowly fell in love with his wife. So he is expecting the same kind of 'journey to love' for Sai as well in their marriage. He expects that what he does for Sai, his feelings will reach Sai through his actions. When he feels that it is not creating any impact on her, he becomes dejected. After Sunny pointed it out to him, he does try to read her but he gets confusing signals - as he said today he doesn't know what is going on in her head. He doesn't know that her seemingly unaffected emotional state is a defence mechanism - and he is completely, utterly clueless about the impact his words has had on her....because afterall she herself didn't want the marriage, right?

You have beautifully described Sai's predicament. Whenever she 'goes with the flow' in her marriage, something jolts her out of her bliss. She then chides herself for being in a dream world and convinces herself that her reality is the deal marriage. She accepts the situation by locking her feelings away somewhere and reminding herself of the 'reality'.

It is also clear that in her youthful innocence, Sai idealizes 'romantic love'. In her naivete and inexperience, she sees Virakhi as doomed soulmates who could never unite. I agree with Ayesha - I too have felt that Sai fears she can never be Virat's entirely, that Virat will always hold a torch for Pakhi. Being an honest man he will do his duties and even commit to his marriage....but Pakhi will forever be his one true love.

The fact that she assumed that Virat was narrating his own love story with Pakhi simply shows how much she is affected by their past. Living with Pakhi, tolerating her interference and her taunts, seeing Virat not setting boundaries with Pakhi .......she has managed to be stoic through all this by locking away her heart and by reminding herself of the 'reality'. Its the only way she knows to protect her heart....but it has consequences...little does she know that she is only wounding her heart little by little everyday.

The yoga teacher was typical ITV cliche, although it did set the stage for Sai's coming aloofness. I don't expect them to come up with anything better or realistic ...so theek hai.

I can't but help but imagine what a lip-smacking, delicious anticipation this track would have raised if only Virakhi past had more substance than 2-day yoga love and Pakhi was truly a grey character. What a wonderful love entanglement that would have been. But we must remember that this is the sasta version of everything decent.

Loved reading your take as always Nethraa. I had started typing up a response, but I got too carried away talking about our dearest PH and Sitara and all of the rubbish that went down today 🤣

@Bolded: For once, I understood why Virat used the word zimidari in the context of the story. He was doing what we see Sai doing all of the time... this time it was him who wanted Sai to counter him saying that it could have been a zimidari... he wanted to get some type of affirmation that it was beyond a zimidari. Sai said that the girl would not have gone on the trip unless she loved his friend... at this, Virat wanted to get a glimpse into Sai's perspective, so he asked her what if it was just a zimidari? I agree that this backfired and did not register with Sai for obvious reasons, and again, it just reaffirmed, in her mind, that Virat thinks of their relationship as nothing other than a duty.

I somewhat disagree that these words don't have any significance for Virat. Yes, he is not understanding the significance that they hold to Sai... but, as he said to abba during the barsi, his entire life's mission is to fulfill this zimidari and he will never let it waver. Marriages are bound in two people's commitment, loyalty, and duty to each other... and he has progressed beyond the deal onto a bigger, much deeper zimidari now. So, to say that it doesn't matter to him sounds unfair to me. He is unable to express all of this to Sai, but that, to me, does not mean that these words do not carry significance to him. The problem is that he tosses them around not realizing the extent to which they have been ingrained into Sai's mind as an indication that this relationship will never be a real marriage... and the bigger issue is that Virat thinks Sai will look past his words and into his actions, because that is how he feels safe in expressing himself...

To me, the bottom line is that both of them are in love, but they have different ways of expressing it/wanting it to be communicated to them...

Originally posted by: tptwi

Loved reading your take as always Nethraa. I had started typing up a response, but I got too carried away talking about our dearest PH and Sitara and all of the rubbish that went down today 🤣

I pray that child bride does really well and ghum writer's pants catch fire.

@Bolded: For once, I understood why Virat used the word zimidari in the context of the story. He was doing what we see Sai doing all of the time... this time it was him who wanted Sai to counter him saying that it could have been a zimidari... he wanted to get some type of affirmation that it was beyond a zimidari. Sai said that the girl would not have gone on the trip unless she loved his friend... at this, Virat wanted to get a glimpse into Sai's perspective, so he asked her what if it was just a zimidari? I agree that this backfired and did not register with Sai for obvious reasons, and again, it just reaffirmed, in her mind, that Virat thinks of their relationship as nothing other than a duty.

You think he was wanting her to counter him? I will watch the scene again. What i thought was he was simply trying to recreate their situation as closely as possible so that he could get an insight. I was laughing watching that scene - it felt like Virat was seeking counselling and guidance on a girl's feelings from the very girl he was in love with.

I somewhat disagree that these words don't have any significance for Virat. Yes, he is not understanding the significance that they hold to Sai... but, as he said to abba during the barsi, his entire life's mission is to fulfill this zimidari and he will never let it waver. Marriages are bound in two people's commitment, loyalty, and duty to each other... and he has progressed beyond the deal onto a bigger, much deeper zimidari now. So, to say that it doesn't matter to him sounds unfair to me. He is unable to express all of this to Sai, but that, to me, does not mean that these words do not carry significance to him. The problem is that he tosses them around not realizing the extent to which they have been ingrained into Sai's mind as an indication that this relationship will never be a real marriage... and the bigger issue is that Virat thinks Sai will look past his words and into his actions, because that is how he feels safe in expressing himself...

Ok I think I miscommunicated. Ofcourse farz and zimmedari means a lot to Virat. Even if Sai doesn't love him back or were to even leave CN, he would continue to take her responsibility. That's who Virat is.

What I meant was in the context of their marriage status. To him, Sai is way past being just a zimmedari, she is his wife, his love. Nobody calls their wife zimmedari. But then, till now "zimmedari" is the established relationship status between them. So he uses the word casually not knowing that for Sai, it is a painful reminder of her position in his life.

To me, the bottom line is that both of them are in love, but they have different ways of expressing it/wanting it to be communicated to them...

Pooja, did you do a PhD in emotions?😳

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I agree that he was trying to recreate their situation to get insights on her perspective... but to me, when he asked that their situation might have just been a zimidari instead of love, the expression on his face really seemed like he wanted Sai to counter him and say that no, it was indeed love... but instead, she accepted the zimidari dialogue.... So I guess perhaps it was an expectation of an indirect counter if that makes sense? Because at the end of the day, he wants to confess, but he also wants to know how Sai feels about him/assurance that she loves him back....

Totally agree with what you are saying about Virat's use of zimidari now! Sorry I misunderstood!

And hahaha I wish I had a Phd in emotions..... my life is an emotional mess at times, which is why I really relate to Sai and Virat.... even if the makers aren't intentional about it, their relationship and their individual personalities are just too relatable to me 🤣