Hypocrisy thy name is Virat Chavan! - Page 3

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

The difference between the two is the first was a lie, since Mohit has openly called Sai his sister. Thats the major difference. Cannot be compared.

The first one was a result of spite that Pakhi had towards Sai and Sai clearly understood. It was her revenge..Karishma also has never till date questionedThe second one is how Sai has seen Virat being treated by his ghar ke ache bade.. And that was again proven true when Kaku came in with Pakhi, in recent episode and honestly Kaku made him feel like a khilona and we all questioned that. Even I was against Sai speaking those words to Virat and they both were equally rude to each other.. However when I saw this episode where Kaku despite of agreeing to the truth revealed, wanted them to feed each other just like he does for Sai.. Just because she knew if Virat does that PP will eat. I realised yes to certain degrees he is a khilona to these people.. I had also posted how he seemed less hurt on being treated as Khilona than being told that he is that to his elders...For Sai it was evident during the whole Ladakh episode and she is brash , hence she came out with so rudely. But that was truth. Sai and Mohit's relationship insinuation by Patralekha was anything but truth. Yes I did not like her talking about him like that.. But when it actually happened, his reactions to it, even it was because of the writing , his reactions to be actually treated like Khilona was thanda..and normal. When whatever she stated back then in anger was actually playing out infront of him, he looked less hurt. So what she called him then was a truth.

Of course I agree with the whole, Virat vs Sai part.. I do not like that part here.. Virat's actions has been heinous and hence he is bashed more.. Like I mentioned in other posts, when it comes to jealousy even Sai has been irrationally possessive for him. She has kept on saying from beginning that she wont come in between Virat and Patralekha and yet she gets angry when they are together and blurts out things..

And also there is a lot of difference between Sai's insecurity towards Patralekha who has feelings for her husband and is close to him/her all the time and Virat's insecurity towards Sai's male classmate/friend.

Again I will repeat it. It doesn't matter how it was said and why it was said. She still used the word khilona for him. Just imagine tomorrow his family calls her characterless and he says that's how my family sees the things what can I do ? Meine toh kuch socha hi nahin, bola hi nahin. Just like Sai said your family takes you as a khilona so what can I say. Mein aisa nahin sochti.

I didn't react much back then because I am a sadist and I enjoy the hurtful words so Sai saying it didn't bother me. But it doesn't change the fact that that word was used for him by her, true or not true, meant or not meant, from her POV or family's POV. It's she who pronounced the word. It's she who has hurt him. Twice. Once in the room and then again in front of the family.

Jealousy is jealousy. Sai knows Pakhi's intentions and believes Virat has a soft corner for her same way Virat thinks she likes someone from her college. Well actually we don't know yet what he will think. But if so then why is Sai's jealousy justified and Virat's not ? Like he can't get jealous because it's just a college mate ?

That's why I don't enter in such negative topics where people justify one character and bash the other one. The X vs Y topics make people find the ugliness in everything. As I am happy with the imperfectly perfect couple, I will end this discussion here before I find too many negative points to actually hate the couple. 😆

I have always found Virat Gray. Do not want to comment for upcoming episodes.He acted very sensibly baring in some occasions. Though he has selective rage only with Sai. He just looses it completely. It could be that he feels Sai as his own. But I would like to say he was completely wrong during PD drama, ousting Sai and then this recent confrontation.

Jealousy is part of love. Even Sai never liked Virat talking to Pakhi since day one of their marriage so how can we expect that Virat would take it casually if Sai talks to another man? Sai still is unknown to her own feelings but she never shy away claiming her rights as a wife but Virat knows how much he loves Sai wouldn't it be fair for him be jealous.

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Again I will repeat it. It doesn't matter how it was said and why it was said. She still used the word khilona for him. Just imagine tomorrow his family calls her characterless and he says that's how my family sees the things what can I do ? Meine toh kuch socha hi nahin, bola hi nahin. Just like Sai said your family takes you as a khilona so what can I say. Mein aisa nahin sochti.

I didn't react much back then because I am a sadist and I enjoy the hurtful words so Sai saying it didn't bother me. But it doesn't change the fact that that word was used for him by her, true or not true, meant or not meant, from her POV or family's POV. It's she who pronounced the word. It's she who has hurt him. Twice. Once in the room and then again in front of the family.

Jealousy is jealousy. Sai knows Pakhi's intentions and believes Virat has a soft corner for her same way Virat thinks she likes someone from her college. Well actually we don't know yet what he will think. But if so then why is Sai's jealousy justified and Virat's not ? Like he can't get jealous because it's just a college mate ?

That's why I don't enter in such negative topics where people justify one character and bash the other one. The X vs Y topics make people find the ugliness in everything. As I am happy with the imperfectly perfect couple, I will end this discussion here before I find too many negative points to actually hate the couple. 😆

Well I did not meant it to be a Virat vs Sai post honestly. I am not sure if it came across that way.. I was just pointing out something that the family has been doing it to him and was pointed out by his wife. .It was about the treatment given to him. His family thinks a lot of thing, they did insinuate that during the hold lunch drama also, she was questioned by the family so anyway thats another point. It was just how Virat says my family calls you selfish, muhfat and badtameez and a lot of other things which is true, however he does not consider her so, she told him your family treats you that way. I tell my fiancé your Chachi treats you this way doesnt mean I treat him the same way, I state a fact that is being seen. So my whole post was that Sai did not call him Khilona she told him how the family is treating him...

But then We can agree to disagree at this point so that this discussion does not go ugly. However I do realise this variance in our thoughts can go an on and yet You and I can still hold our points respectfully.

If we were to hate the couple or either of them, This couple would have ended when the whole hand hold scene or for that matter the mirchi episode happened.. If not then atleast when she was thrown out of the house.. But we are still there, waiting for them to be together, to grow together...That way we are on the same page... Hope we don't hold any hard feelings...🤗

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Well I did not meant it to be a Virat vs Sai post honestly. I am not sure if it came across that way.. I was just pointing out something that the family has been doing it to him and was pointed out by his wife. .It was about the treatment given to him. His family thinks a lot of thing, they did insinuate that during the hold lunch drama also, she was questioned by the family so anyway thats another point. It was just how Virat says my family calls you selfish, muhfat and badtameez and a lot of other things which is true, however he does not consider her so, she told him your family treats you that way. I tell my fiancé your Chachi treats you this way doesnt mean I treat him the same way, I state a fact that is being seen. So my whole post was that Sai did not call him Khilona she told him how the family is treating him...

But then We can agree to disagree at this point so that this discussion does not go ugly. However I do realise this variance in our thoughts can go an on and yet You and I can still hold our points respectfully.

If we were to hate the couple or either of them, This couple would have ended when the whole hand hold scene or for that matter the mirchi episode happened.. If not then atleast when she was thrown out of the house.. But we are still there, waiting for them to be together, to grow together...That way we are on the same page... Hope we don't hold any hard feelings...🤗

No not our discussion. I mean the topics people make sometimes are Virat vs Sai. That's why I don't enter those topics or enter very rare.

Most of SaiRat fans bash and praise both when they go wrong or right. Since the ousting track, the forum has a lot of such topics which actually keeps people away from the forum. Not everyone likes negativity. 😆

And we just had a healthy discussion so no hard feelings. 😳

Sai talking to her male college friend is same as what Virat shares/shared with Pakhi? Lmfao the kinda things I get to read on this platform 🥴🥴🥴

Originally posted by: BBFanForever

Sai talking to her male college friend is same as what Virat shares/shared with Pakhi? Lmfao the kinda things I get to read on this platform 🥴🥴🥴

Sometimes you gotta ignore. Trust me, it’s for our mental wellbeing 😂😭 usually under opinionated posts, I read the usernames and know when not to proceed further. Don’t want to give myself a brain damage.

Originally posted by: GandiAai

Unconfrontational when it suits him. Otherwise, he has no issues:

- Forcibly preventing his wife from leaving the house/eating in front of everyone else

- Arresting someone at their wedding without any evidence

- Throwing his wife out of the house in the middle of the night; acting harshly with Usha Maushi

💯 Agree with this 3

- Blowing up at Omkar because it made *him* look stupid

Not sure what you're talking about?

- Yelling at Sai when she correctly posited the reason for Samrat's departure; sleeping on couch to make statement

I dissagree with this statement. He was taken aback, he loves Samrat more than anything and being confronted with the fact that he may be the reason for his dissappearance, he couldn't fathom it, he was in denial and it's very much human. Sleeping on couch, I've seen that happen in real too. He needed space and didn't wanted to be in the same room as Sai for some time atleast and he couldn't just go and sleep on the bed while Sai is sleeping on the floor I feel.

But when it comes to actually defending his wife from bombardment from all sides (even from "outsiders" like Pakhi's mom), he makes squinty faces, pretends he's about to say something, and at best, musters a lukewarm "Pakhi please".

Yes and it's hella frustrating. I've already talked about why he's like that.

I can't believe he has the audacity to question Sai on anything after having abused her repeatedly (and enabled it from others).

See, he has done grave grave mistakes, borderline abuse even, and I don't think many would return to him. I don't know what I would do for instance. But it's not about me, you or anyone else it's about Sai and Virat. Sai has forgiven him and we should respect that, she has given him that right. Moreover Virat doed realise his mistakes and repent for it. Nobody is perfect, nobody is born a husband right? He's learning and he'll keep learning, it's upto Sai to decide whether she wants to give him a chance or not. His love for her is pure and you can't deny that.

He's not unconfrontentional with Sai, I've thought a lot about it, why not. She's much younger than him? Or maybe because he isn't himself with others? There's almost no one who loves him unconditionally, who has zero expectations from him, the only such person is Sai. I've grown up to some extent in an orthodox family (not a toxic one thankfully) and there are some elders that I can't be much confrontational with, I will adress it when they're saying something wrong but I won't blast at them. That doesn't mean I can't be confrontational with someone else. I take the full liberty with my brother or my mom because I know they understand me, but only with them and not with anyone else because I'm also a bit unconfrontentional from nature. Same goes with Pakhi's mom, I felt he handled it well, there's no point in making a tamasha out of it if you can handle it with some tact. But this is again only my opinion.

Originally posted by: Sudharies

Both Sai and Virat are very realistic, relatable characters. They're not too mahaan, neither they are too greyish. They both have their own good traits and bad ones. But Virat seems to be always on the receiving end while it comes to criticism from the viewers.

As far as I've observed here in IF, many have the issue that he doesn't stand for Sai every time she's insulted. But this character trait of Virat not talking back to every taunt and bad mouthing that's thrown at him or his mother, has been shown from the start of the show. From the first episode, he never retorted strongly back at Bhavani for taunting his mother all the time. I remember the first episode itself, she taunts Ashwini that Virat knew how to show difference in respect between herself and his aai. He could have said something rude to his aunt, but instead he simply says that aai is in my heart so I hugged her, but you have my respect so I touched your feet.

Same goes to the times when Sai would taunt him during the Gadchiroli days regarding the VRS approval. Just because he asked Kamal to stay with him for a few days she taunts him so much every time they meet and unfairly hates him. Virat didn't have the need to listen to them as he was a higher official than Kamal Joshi. He could have easily shut her up with authoritative words. But he never made it a big issue. He reprimanded Sai a few times but with no bitter words at her. Virat's nature is like that, he doesn't feel the need to taunt and talk back everyone everytime just because they don't keep their mouths shut.

When the complete necessity rises he does that, but in his own way. His family members , their situations and his upbringing play a huge role in this.

I also agree that, when he gets jealous of someone due to his insecurity and feelings related to Sai, he behaves irrationally. But again he's just a human, people who don't relate to him call it hypocrisy and I'd prefer the word flawed.

Sorry, but here too, I'd reply that Virat does respond aggressively to things - he's not consistently passive and calm. So he has it in him, and the writers have shown it to us. But that aggression seems to be reserved for Sai in explosive and extreme ways (food withholding, grabbing arm, throwing her out). Because they're insults to him. But for people he should be speaking up for when they're abused and victimized, he's usually silent (e.g. Sai, Aai, Devi, Pulkit), and especially so when it's Pakhi doing the victimizing.

Sai and Virat are both flawed in the same way that shoplifting and assault are both crimes. The scale of their flaws are not in the same universe.

Either the writers are brilliant in showing an actually pretty toxic guy in a nice guy's exterior, thus confusing everyone, or they stumbled into what seems to work for TRP. 😆

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Again I will repeat it. It doesn't matter how it was said and why it was said. She still used the word khilona for him. Just imagine tomorrow his family calls her characterless and he says that's how my family sees the things what can I do ? Meine toh kuch socha hi nahin, bola hi nahin. Just like Sai said your family takes you as a khilona so what can I say. Mein aisa nahin sochti.

I didn't react much back then because I am a sadist and I enjoy the hurtful words so Sai saying it didn't bother me. But it doesn't change the fact that that word was used for him by her, true or not true, meant or not meant, from her POV or family's POV. It's she who pronounced the word. It's she who has hurt him. Twice. Once in the room and then again in front of the family.

Jealousy is jealousy. Sai knows Pakhi's intentions and believes Virat has a soft corner for her same way Virat thinks she likes someone from her college. Well actually we don't know yet what he will think. But if so then why is Sai's jealousy justified and Virat's not ? Like he can't get jealous because it's just a college mate ?

That's why I don't enter in such negative topics where people justify one character and bash the other one. The X vs Y topics make people find the ugliness in everything. As I am happy with the imperfectly perfect couple, I will end this discussion here before I find too many negative points to actually hate the couple. 😆

There are scales to these things - we *have* to recognize them.

Not all jealousies are created equal. There is toxic jealousy, which results in abusive actions like withholding food and physical forcible prevention of leaving the house (and whatever will come next, and I'm sure it won't be pretty), and there is healthy, rational jealousy, which results in verbal communication revealing how a person's actions make the other feel.

And then we get to the justification of the jealousy. Sai has never given any indication that she would stray, and it is contrary to every aspect of her character he/we have seen. Virat already has had a relationship with someone else, to whom he has promised his love, who acts consistently with that love, has never really dispelled those feelings to Sai (avoiding it when confronted), nor has he ever told Sai what his current feelings are.

So not only are Virat's responses to jealousy more explosive and toxic; they also come from far flimsier evidence, as opposed to Sai's milder responses to stronger evidence.

These are just not equal situations.

Originally posted by: KJSairat

See, he has done grave grave mistakes, borderline abuse even, and I don't think many would return to him. I don't know what I would do for instance. But it's not about me, you or anyone else it's about Sai and Virat. Sai has forgiven him and we should respect that, she has given him that right. Moreover Virat doed realise his mistakes and repent for it. Nobody is perfect, nobody is born a husband right? He's learning and he'll keep learning, it's upto Sai to decide whether she wants to give him a chance or not. His love for her is pure and you can't deny that.

He's not unconfrontentional with Sai, I've thought a lot about it, why not. She's much younger than him? Or maybe because he isn't himself with others? There's almost no one who loves him unconditionally, who has zero expectations from him, the only such person is Sai. I've grown up to some extent in an orthodox family (not a toxic one thankfully) and there are some elders that I can't be much confrontational with, I will adress it when they're saying something wrong but I won't blast at them. That doesn't mean I can't be confrontational with someone else. I take the full liberty with my brother or my mom because I know they understand me, but only with them and not with anyone else because I'm also a bit unconfrontentional from nature. Same goes with Pakhi's mom, I felt he handled it well, there's no point in making a tamasha out of it if you can handle it with some tact. But this is again only my opinion.

Sorry for nitpicking, but I wouldn't call it borderline abuse. Throwing someone out of the house like that is defintely domestic abuse, and to me, that's the straw that broke the camel's back. Up to this point, I could let go his selective passivity as just regular immaturity, but this was pretty much unforgivable, unless he took drastic steps to become a better man. And he really hasn't.

Ultimately yes, it's up to the writers how this will unfold. But if this was real, and I was Sai's friend/family member, I'd be like "dude, you can't go back - it will ruin you." Since being thrown out, Sai has been mercilessly abused by the family (despite doing something great for them), while Virat is mostly silent. And he's going out of his way *to not* clear the air between him, Pakhi, and Sai. He's not coming clean on what happened with Pakhi, nor is he admitting where Sai stands, nor is he firm enough in telling Pakhi not to interfere in their affairs (while yelling at Sunny as he did). And then he will turn around and question Sai having male friends (projection maybe?). So where is the repentance really? That should show in actions/deeds and not words.

I understand someone would be far more confrontational with people they are close to. But the gap is way too large. He can yell at and abuse Sai when he feels he is aggrieved, but silence for anyone else is a huge gap. A smaller gap would be if he can firmly, but respectfully put his family in their place, but he doesn't even do that.

The Omkar example referred to the bribery thing - Virat only showed his anger because it was he who ultimately looked dumb falling for it. I doubt he'd act so aggressively if it was someone else who was the victim (and we have evidence of this, because they took Devi's baby and drugged/imprisoned her for 10 years, and all we got was gentle grimacing!).