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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya


I so resonate with this post. Only loophole in this one is Sayee informing about Hairini the daughter and none of the two know anything about her..

@Bold Exactly if one looks at it from Virat's perspective, would not be too much that even after wanting to wait/stop the marriage Sayee goes ahead and gets them married secretly. He would have the fear of Pulkit not being the right man for Devi..Anyone in his position would be. His anger would also be a result of Sayee taking an impulsive decision, she could have waited for the investigation to happen or investigate it herself. Her know it all attitude is also to blame for. Where she goes for the kill without caring about anyone..not even Virat. From Virat's perspective Sayee would have destroyed his Tai's life, who right now is not in great health. With no time to understand/analyse/investigate he would make decisions on what is present to him

@ Bold She was never made to realize this attitude of hers is a problem. I want to know what makes Sai believe the letter is a fake one . She knows Pulkit for few days and how is she confident about Pulkit’s innocence.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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@ Bold She was never made to realize this attitude of hers is a problem. I want to know what makes Sai believe the letter is a fake one . She knows Pulkit for few days and how is she confident about Pulkit’s innocence.

And I want to also know what makes Sai think that Pulkit is not lying to her when it comes to lovinf Devyani and Harini..I understand the family trusting him including Virat since they know him beforehand and also the fact that Kaku admitted to not allowing them to be together for her fear of badnaami and reputation of Chavans.. But how does Sai know that there is nothing false or half-truth in what Pulkit has told her about .. Sai's know it all is not questioned because till they have not made her see the repercussions of her decisions..Her decisions or her stand has always shown to be correct..I am sure she was right in Amey's matter...because he was a fraud ..no doubt about that..But what makes her believe Pulkit is not. ALso again this time..her know it all attitude even when questioned initially will be proved right ultimately. I cant blame Virat completely for taking up the step that he is to take.. However I would want him to stay in character and not misbehave with Sai..in a manner where he lets her stand outside all night and deny her food.Like i mentioned Sai deciding tp leave and Virat agreeing to that willingly would be the best way to portray Virat.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

And I want to also know what makes Sai think that Pulkit is not lying to her when it comes to lovinf Devyani and Harini..I understand the family trusting him including Virat since they know him beforehand and also the fact that Kaku admitted to not allowing them to be together for her fear of badnaami and reputation of Chavans.. But how does Sai know that there is nothing false or half-truth in what Pulkit has told her about .. Sai's know it all is not questioned because till they have not made her see the repercussions of her decisions..Her decisions or her stand has always shown to be correct..I am sure she was right in Amey's matter...because he was a fraud ..no doubt about that..But what makes her believe Pulkit is not. ALso again this time..her know it all attitude even when questioned initially will be proved right ultimately. I cant blame Virat completely for taking up the step that he is to take.. However I would want him to stay in character and not misbehave with Sai..in a manner where he lets her stand outside all night and deny her food.Like i mentioned Sai deciding tp leave and Virat agreeing to that willingly would be the best way to portray Virat.

I agree . Sai should walk out and Virat shouldn’t stop her this time but I doubt that would happen . Unfortunately, like previous track during lunch drama the focus will be shifted to Virat’s mistake completely ignoring Sai’s mistakes .


Virat stopping the marriage makes more sense and less damage to Devi than eloping Devi with Pulkit without knowing anything about him . We as audiences know he is a good character but let’s imagine if he isn’t then she is basically destroying Devi’s life .

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya


I so resonate with this post. Only loophole in this one is Sayee informing about Hairini the daughter and none of the two know anything about her..

@Bold Exactly if one looks at it from Virat's perspective, would not be too much that even after wanting to wait/stop the marriage Sayee goes ahead and gets them married secretly. He would have the fear of Pulkit not being the right man for Devi..Anyone in his position would be. His anger would also be a result of Sayee taking an impulsive decision, she could have waited for the investigation to happen or investigate it herself. Her know it all attitude is also to blame for. Where she goes for the kill without caring about anyone..not even Virat. From Virat's perspective Sayee would have destroyed his Tai's life, who right now is not in great health. With no time to understand/analyse/investigate he would make decisions on what is present to him


The reason Sai gets her married is because Devi will try to harm herself. That's what I know from the lther version. Worried that she shouldn't harm herself she gets her married.


But we need to watch the coming episodes to see why she does that. She probably will also come to know more information from Pulkit.


I skipped the drama part in other versions, if not would have known what it was.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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In the Tamil version Devi will try to commit suicide after Virat tells that the marriage cannot happen. But only Sai will know about this. She will have a talk with Pulkit and he will tell that he has given Devyani' s name as wife in all the records and she will believe that. So she will go ahead and help Devyani to elope and marry Pulkit. This is what happens in Tamil version.


Even I cannot understand how Sai can do this. Devyani is Virat's sister. She cannot take any decision without informing Virat. That too when she is not mentally sound. If this is the case Virat's anger would be justified. Let's see what they show in Hindi version.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


The reason Sai gets her married is because Devi will try to harm herself. That's what I know from the lther version. Worried that she shouldn't harm herself she gets her married.


But we need to watch the coming episodes to see why she does that. She probably will also come to know more information from Pulkit.


I skipped the drama part in other versions, if not would have known what it was.

But then again its wrong, why not giving a thought on the chance that Pulkit is fraud. Seeing from Sai's perspective and not as an audience(who knows Pulkit is a good man), there are more chances of him being a fraud. One cannot be helped to elope by a family member if he/she decides to kill himself/herself, with chances of the suitor being Fake/fraud. Her act would still be not justified.She should inform Virat because

a)he is Devi's brother and

b)he is her husband who has been taking stand for her most of the times.

c)because its Virat only , who has accepted/helped her in going with the marriage..


Like 404_notfound mentioned, keeping Virat in loop when he is with her and ignoring him and discarding all his valid concerns when he is not, is what Sai does most of the time. That is her not giving importance to Virat's existence in her life and also questioning his instincts and devotion for his own job/family members (Amey track and now this.) I want Sai to self inspect her flaws as well..We know Virat will and Virat mostly does, but Sai never apologizes nor does she reprimands herself/self introspect where she went wrong. Considering her decision in this case also would be the correct one ultimately, she would not be the one to regret or access herself or apologize.. I am making these assumptions on what has been shown of her till date and not on what was shown in KD.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I totally agree with you. Even if Pulkit is a good person her act of performing Devyani's marriage without Virat's knowledge cannot be justified. But again I think it will only be Virat who will be apologising because he had asked her to leave the house. Sai will not accept his apology also this time. Hope in the Hindi version they show something different and both of them realizing their mistakes and apologising.

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Originally posted by: msin

Today pakhi And Chavans are questioning virat that he should stop the wedding .. and bla bla


But rather lobbying for Sayi .. can virat what life are we giving Devyani


she’s locked in the room .. her mother calls her mad .. she’s not allowed in any family function .. she humiliated .. she’s never taken for any professional help .. what wonderful life are they giving .. that Devyani should be kept back in the house



Yes we barely know pulkit .. but looking at pulkit n Devyani relationship from before .. shouldn’t we take that chance


Virat said sayi has found out about him .. Arey he should question why pakhi were u agreeable to lock Devyani in the room ..


Valid points.

@bold 1

Totally agree with this one. Why are searching answers from your family for Sai's questions? Haven't this questions once crossed his mind?. I still don't know what exactly is this CN story,that the sons choose to live among this toxicity . If CN gang has been having this mask of lies infront of the sons for so long ,didn't it even collapse once that no one knows this ugliness hidden here. Why is it happening only after Sai's entry?I am not saying as the FL or mahaan,but this is rising because of Sai's habit of questioning. But as Sai stated, this much blind trust that you choose to ignore even the seriousness of the situation.

@coloured text

She has . Once she had revealed to Sai (in the balcony scene) that her mother takes her to some doctor,but unfortunately it was to drug her but it was good enough to keep everyone and everything in dark.(And that too for 10 years). I don't know how kaku did it or is doing it,but she is damn good in what she does.

Regarding why should be she kept in the house? CN gang have a different face infront of the sons,they have a different approach towards things in the presence and in the absence of sons,and majority are in that team,and others remain silent. So ,Virat maybe in the delusion that she will be better in the house with everyone's (fake) care and concern as he personally never questioned anything or anyone.

@bold 2

This is where I pendulum a bit. I am not saying Pulkit is not a nice guy,he is ,but I am the viewer in this case. And I know this as a story. But for that character over there,(apart from C gang and didi),especially the unknown ones might have not want to take a chance with Devi. And this is also not the current scenario,almost all of Devi's well wishers are keeping her happiness beyond everything,they are not also much digging into Pulkit ,they can. But after the letter,if the track goes on like Sai first clarifies,Virat still opposes ,than the big step ,than it will be a different perspective of the story.

And if Virat blindly believes that letter ,without any further inspection and opposes the wedding strongly ,than we will have a different perspective. And if Sai also does not clarify the doubts, and Virat also has misunderstandings and he also does not clarify it,if both will be persistent with their decisions,than here one is voluntarily falling into a well,and the other into ditch. Why?Cuz more than Sai should have had thought of another angle(let's say Sai trusts PD like Viru trusts his so called family),she will stand defenceless when she has to answer and in such situations accusations become defence. And Virat is now also doing the mistake,after knowing about opposition,there has to be atleast one conversation with Pulkit. And if he stays to remain silent than he will also be entering into Sai's shoes,defenceless against her part of valid questions. And action reaction will lead to the separation ,and the actual situation will have a less part. So the eloping decision will depend on how the track plays out.

@coloured text 2

UPSC topper was counting bilva patra when that played out

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Janki you are ❤️. Wish you a very Happy Women's Day .


I saw it that they have explored a really new perspective this time.. Virat for a change this time was not lost in her beauty or impressed by her beauty..He was attracted to Sai for the first time..Physcially attarcted. He saw her from that aspect and that's what brought the awkwardness in his expression which was brilliantly portrayed by Neil...Virat as of now has not accepted to himself that he likes Sai in a romantic way..Seeing her that way and wanting to continue looking at her also surprised him. Also if we look at it , just this morning her was rejected by Sai and also reminded of the deal that they had, which is non-existent for him and he is only reminded of it when mentioned by Sai.. He is in a fix for him he has done and has been doing a lot to show Sai that he wants her here in the house..in his life for indefinite period if not forever.. and Sai on the other hand keeps getting formal and informal with him.. So if you look at it from his perspective he was trying to stay away from her and also could help himself having a look at her. Hence it looked distant..Hell it was supposed to be distant. Virat as compared to Sai has volcano of emotions in him and he is not able to truly deal with it anymore.He doesnt even know how and what to convey to Sai..considering the wall is still there with a few bricks removed from the wall.. Sai on the hand was her innocent and unexperienced self where she has started to enjoy the attention given by Virat and trying to also analyse it. I do think both Ayesha and Neil understand Virat and Sai characters apart from their own characters.This also reminds me of how Ayesha mentioned in the recent interviews that she knows Virat really well.. So in order to get the chemistry.. especially emotionally chemistry one also needs to understand the character with whom the chemistry is to be made along with your own character.. I am sure Neil also understands Sai's character really well..

However hard I dislike Vedi Vehni...She did ask the right questions..though her stance is not Devi Didi ko bachao.. but Sai ko phasao galat saabit karo

With Pakhi I believed he could have said that Sai is is wife and the room is hers.. However I also think just this morning he was rejected to be called Sai's friend so he also does not feel comfortable calling her his wife thinking Sai would not like it/prefer it. Then again I think he was still into Sai when Pakhi started talking and also he doesnt want to get into an argument with Pakhi , he is trying to still maintain the respect that she deserves as Samrat's wife.. He is reaching there.. reaching where he would snap out and this also was portrayed brilliantly by Pakhi..His irritation and dislike towards her coming to his(their) room and disrupting a moment he was having with Sai was quite visible..Kudos to Neil for being so great with his expressions when it comes to his real life partner also. I mean when you are newly love, its difficult to look at the person in disgust even when you are acting, so that's what I came in my mind when I saw him talking in that way to Pakhi.. Neil and Ayesha and if Aishwarya really wanto to understand have great scenes coming to showcase their talent and up the performance.. I believe now is the time when the fandom needs loads of tissue papers..

My issue with Sai

From one aspect if one looks at it from Virat's perspective[I am still giving him a benefit of doubt Janki..us din aapke hi topic par Sai ko diya tha.kya karun I love Virat one day and Sayi the other], would not be too much that even after wanting to wait/stop the marriage Sai goes ahead and gets them married secretly. He would have the fear of Pulkit not being the right man for Devi..Anyone in his position would be. His anger would also be a result of Sai taking an impulsive decision, she could have waited for the investigation to happen or investigate it herself. Her know it all attitude is also to blame for. Where she goes for the kill without caring about anyone..not even Virat. From Virat's perspective Sai would have destroyed his Tai's life, who right now is not in great health. With no time to understand/analyse/investigate he would make decisions on what is present to him

How does Sai know Pulkit is not lying, why not giving a thought on the chance that Pulkit is fraud. Seeing from Sai's perspective and not from an viewer's(who knows Pulkit is a good man), there are more chances of him being a fraud. One cannot be helped to elope by a family member if he/she decides to kill himself/herself, with chances of the suitor being Fake/fraud. Her act would still be not justified.

She should inform Virat because

a)he is Devi's brother and

b)he is her husband who has been taking stand for her most of the times.

c)because its Virat only , who has accepted/helped her in going with the marriage..

Keeping Virat in loop when he is with her and ignoring him and discarding all his valid concerns when he is not, is what Sai does most of the time. That is her not giving importance to Virat's existence in her life and also questioning his instincts and devotion for his own job/family members (Amey track and now this.) I want Sai to self inspect her flaws as well..We know Virat will and Virat mostly does, but Sai never apologizes nor does she reprimands herself/self introspect where she went wrong. Considering her decision in this case also would be the correct one ultimately, she would not be the one to regret or access herself or apologize..

Janki one question what are you expecting from the separation track?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

But then again its wrong, why not giving a thought on the chance that Pulkit is fraud. Seeing from Sai's perspective and not as an audience(who knows Pulkit is a good man), there are more chances of him being a fraud. One cannot be helped to elope by a family member if he/she decides to kill himself/herself, with chances of the suitor being Fake/fraud. Her act would still be not justified.She should inform Virat because

a)he is Devi's brother and

b)he is her husband who has been taking stand for her most of the times.

c)because its Virat only , who has accepted/helped her in going with the marriage..


Like 404_notfound mentioned, keeping Virat in loop when he is with her and ignoring him and discarding all his valid concerns when he is not, is what Sai does most of the time. That is her not giving importance to Virat's existence in her life and also questioning his instincts and devotion for his own job/family members (Amey track and now this.) I want Sai to self inspect her flaws as well..We know Virat will and Virat mostly does, but Sai never apologizes nor does she reprimands herself/self introspect where she went wrong. Considering her decision in this case also would be the correct one ultimately, she would not be the one to regret or access herself or apologize.. I am making these assumptions on what has been shown of her till date and not on what was shown in KD.


I agree but we are yet to see what actually happens for me to comment on this. So I am going to leave the future episodes for now before I can comment on them.


I was writing a post about this wedding, but I couldn't complete. It is a serious one and I need enough time and be able to think right before I can post it. I might post it today or tomorrow. It talks about how it should have been and how even the wrong people are right in some ways and how Virat and Sai are incorrect.


Below is just a synopsis of what the post will look like.


So far I think Pulkit, Sai and Virat all of them are wrong.


It is Pulkit's wedding, he should be ensuring to give information to Virat because he is marrying his sister.

Also given the fact that in the past there were hurdles in their life, what is he doing that the family don't create another set of hurdles in his and Devi's life?

It looks like he has instead transferred responsibilities to Sai and is expecting her to fight his battles.

When he was not even welcome in CN, he sent across gifts to Devi? Did he think they are going to let their daughter accept it?

It is all fiction and that is why it looks so insensible. In real life this is not how a wedding takes place.

Sai knows Pulkit but doesn't know him well enough that she can trust Devi's life with him.

But when Pulkit visited their house, all the family members who are for this marriage vouched that Pulkit used to live with them and they know him and he is a good guy. Didn't Aai tell this? Didn't Virat apologise to him for what his family had done to him in the past?

How is Sai supposed to understand all this as? As an approval? And that he is really a good guy. Even when she shared about Harini to Virat, she told him that Pulkit sir only told me that he got her with many difficulties.

She did say "only" very clearly.

No objection or doubt raised by Virat?

When Virat said let's not dwell into the past, Sai nodded her head and agreed with him. So if Virat had said let me investigate or verify Pulkit and his history, is Sai going to stop him?


Why did he not do it? He said to Pakhi yesterday that Sai ne jaanch padthal ki hogi. If Sai is not supposed to go by face value, what is Virat doing? What jaanch padthal? Did he ask Sai how she had verified? What was the basis on which she says Pulkit is his sister's husband?

The thought that he could be already married never even entered him. Sai misunderstood him to be married and then when it got cleared , she is under an impression that one issue was cleared. Again she is wrong because she is only going by Pulkit's words.


I too had the same doubt before Pakhi pointed out yesterday. Why did none of them think that he could be marrying her to take revenge.


During Amay's incident Virat said chotey chotey kandon par right? Is it not now especially too chota to take up the responsibility of marriage? And that too of his dear sister who is not even keeping well.

Amay's incident was blown up because of Virat's insecurity too and that cannot be ignored. This guy went to college just to check on a student, to check his height, that is how illogical and fictional it is. Why is he not doing it now? Visiting his college or his house?


In the above quoted text, I also do feel that she doesn't apologise for her mistakes which I am very upset with. The remaining part, I will probably address it in the post because she is a complex character and not an easy one to be understood.


Her characterization is such that

  • She is a good at heart person
  • Trust worthy
  • can go to any lengths for someone's happiness (I am yet to get a clarity on it but I feel for anyone, even Virat said that Sai will do it even for Pakhi and not just Devi, that is how I think she is)
  • Selfless
  • Honest
  • Impulsive
  • Short tempered
  • Arrogant
  • full of attitude person yet
  • Kind
  • Caring
  • Affectionate
  • Loving


Her relationship with Virat has always been confusing. I would not say she doesn't respect him or value him, she has many times but we are not able to see it all the time. Something is amiss and I am not able figure it out.


Before I enter the below, let me tell you that it is not at all for you, it is just my view in general. You and me have been interacting quite a lot and it is really good to know others point of view. I learn from others and it is interesting to listen to other's views too. There can many things we might have overlooked, so it is always good to come to a conclusion taking everyone's views into consideration.


As much as I like Virat, I cannot ignore that he is also at fault. So just like how I would not like Virat to be blamed for everything, I also cannot agree when Sai is blamed for everything.

All I am saying is blame should be for a mistake committed, not with a prejudiced view.

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