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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ishradivani

loved your point of view ❤️

Virat was actually shocked when kaku said about ghoomna phirna and was looking too uncomfortable..... He only had a relief expression on his face when aayi told to take sai along !!!!

Yeah for him it was all about samrat . And now I also feel that since his marriage ship is still not sailing perfectly and is in a state of confusion, he is in chaos .


If we get to see a monologue of virat on his thoughts about both pakhi and sai ..... The air will be more clear for all of us


About virat and Mohit..... I don't know what to say!!! Virat is a kind of person who cares for everyone so by default maybe we started expecting this too from him 🤷

Virat doesn’t believe in tit for tat , he takes a strong stand when required through actions but he won’t respond to every taunts thrown at his way or anyone close to him . That’s his nature and his way of dealing things . He doesn’t believe in stretching the matter . Sometimes it back fires but that’s his nature .


He took a strong stand during Sai’s name changing ritual , college track , their reception and during Sai’s gruhapravesh but he ignores the daily taunts Of CM . Virat thinks thinks the Cm people will not have changed their opinion about Mohit nor will they stop taunting so what’s the point in arguing .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

Yes i also felt Virat was left lacking. Highly delayed reaction time to everything. Hypothyroidism ke liye test karao iska. Sai ke liye na sahi but Mohit aur Ashwini ka defence toh better hosakta tha. It was incredibly sad to watch him give such a thanda response to the insult hurled at his mother and younger brother. Its also ridiculous that virat was so confused about who the third ticket is for but i think Sai would have forgiven him because of her understanding that virat was preoccupied with concern for samrat. But even when she asked him directly ki aap chahte hai mein ladakh aoon...he chose not to reply and postponed his reply. That irks more. Sai did react to that with a roll of her eye and her resignation that virat is avoiding answering again. Aisa kaunsa mushkil question puch liya jisska jawab acp wants to only give at night. Itna kya soch vichaar karna hai? It was a simple yes/no question. And virat gave no reaction when bk gang suggested that he should extend his leave to take pp sightseeing. Knowing his equation with pp as ex-lover why couldn't he simply refuse saying i cannot extend time off for unofficial reasons, i agree pp needs a diversion. She can go somewhere with her parents/friends after coming back from ladakh

That is the problem I have with his reaction: I found his response to the suggestion of the "nazaarein dekhna" not so convincing. Okay, he was a bit amused but that's it. He did not get offended or try to refuse. In fact, when Bhavani started talking about "shaadi ke baad khushi nahi mili", he was giving his best friend the "i'm so sorry for you" looks... I understand his need to diffuse arguments and not start any but one can't be silent all the time. And, he is definitely aware that at some level Sai feels insecure about the presence of Didi around them. He is not blind but he chooses to let it slide all the time because either it is still not important to him to address it or he doesn't want to. But haan, he has all the right to get offended at every possible rejection from Sai. His "Saiii.." when she was talking about not wanting to go was so annoying. 😵


Also virat was amused when Sai said pari was her bff but i wonder if it'll ever occur to him that she has no true close friends that truly understand her. She thinks a little kid is her best friend.

Thats why i don't think Sai blurting everything to pulkit was entirely strange. It was unexpected yes, because pulkit is her professor but hes also the closest thing she has to someone who will listen to her, offer a few words of comfort without any judgement. So even though Sai doesn't know pulkit sir too well, she just needed to unburden herself and share with someone! She has no one trustworthy to turn to except pulkit. And she also acknowledged to pulkit that she reminds her husband repeatedly of the shaadi being samjhauta. "Yaad dilati rahti hoon" pulkit says kyun, bhulakkad hai? And i thought - haan bhilkul hai. Bhul gaya hai ki wife kaun hai aur vahini kaun, bhul gaya hai that he needs to show some consideration for Sai.

Exactly. She has no one to talk to. We haven't seen a single neutral person around her. Even if there is Ashwini, she is heavily leaning on the side of Godu. I don't think Sai has anyone to look up to, to get a logical perspective and I thought her immediate need to release her thoughts out with Pulkit was such a natural thing. We all must have experienced it at least once when we are so overwhelmed with something that has disturbed us and we immediately want to speak about it.

"Kya sabhi shaadiyon ka anjaam aisa hota hai"? It was so telling that she has never really seen a "happy marriage" around her. Not a single marriage in Chakram niwas is worthy of being "ideal" --almost all marriages are dysfunctional. And she never had the fortune of seeing her own parents together! Just imagine, no one to talk to, no example to look up to. What else can she do but to fool around to hide her raw feelings.


What can Sai do with all these mixed signals she's getting. Every time she lowers her guard a little virat does something to make her raise it higher. But by the constant up and down her guard is not solid, it has many cracks and weaknesses. And unfortunately she has no control over that....a 19yo deserves some more sensitivity from KJ.

Raat ko baat karenge bola hai toh hopefully itna time lekar, he will figure out the correct things to say to his wife after the degree of insensitivity demonstrated. And he should think of an apology for his mother and brother too.

I don't think Virat meant to offend her either but his lack of sensitivity in understanding her deep emotions and needs is very unfortunate.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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rofl on your update..if valentines day agaya tho,college mein 6 months freshers party manathaey hein


academic year for college starts in june/July right?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat


😔😪🤧😢😭😱😤😡🤬

These were my ranges of emotion in today's episode, from morning eyelock(Swarg/heaven) to seedha zameen pe patakna, dukha bahut sai ko bhi aur as a audience humein bhi.

I don't understand a person who is an intelligent ACP, how can he become such such a dumb husband/son/brother; matlab itna frequency se toh pendulum bhi oscillate nhi karta jitna "KJ" kar jaate hai🤔


I really feel bad for Sai😔, i had hopes from Aniket, but CV's ne uska bhi satyanash kar dia.There should be someone who makes her feel special( every girl should have, especially our dewdrop🥀,😢) , someone she knows will have her back no matter what!!

Because Virat😤 is not, his oscillation whatever reason has given dum -filled🐍 enough courage to become 🐉.

Trust me i was so 🤬 when Sarplekha caught Sai's hand 😱in that manner, dil toh kiya Tv ke andar ghuskar, use ek ulte haath ka maaru👋 ki uski saari maturity bahar nikal aaye ek baar mei😤

Matlab what would be the end line for Virat🤨, i am seriously baffeled.

Coming to CN gang , as you pointed out and someone else, what kind of EMA (matlab ab toh pura clear ho gya hai EMA hi promote kar rahe hai)🤮🤢 are they promoting??

Oh yes, the way she caught Sai by the hand to start her beizzati rant, I was really fuming -- and okay, the policewala didn't like it either but I must say his observation skills are now well known but uske observations don't translate into actions so what is he doing with all the observation?🤪 It seemed like he wanted to hear the answer from Didi too but she conveniently walked away, realising she had been caught either way yes or no!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi all!

I’m a silent reader, new to this series and ITV. I try to stay away from ITV for my own sanity. My only series so far is kuch rang and yeh pyar nahi to kya hai.. I started watching Ghum because of positivity in Twitter..


I felt like penning my thoughts today, because I found today’s episode a cringe-fest..

Who would suggest DIL to go on a trip with her BIL? I wonder what sort of equation they think Virat and PP share for sad, heartbroken and lonely wife of samrat would feel comfortable to go to place like ladakh with her devar? It’s insane!


if we consider that they are devar and bhabhi that most family member thinks, then who would even imagine that bhabi would be comfortable to go sightseeing alone with devar? Wouldn’t she want some female company? I would feel suffocated to have dinner with my BIL by myself... it would of course be natural to suggest any female member to accompany..


lets consider their friendship angle, which many family members acknowledge that Virat and Pp are. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe family members are aware that they became friends during 2 days yoga camp. I fast forwarded initial episodes due to PP’s stoned expression...she hardly emotes( well can’t do much about it). So, who would feel relaxed or comfortable sightseeing with just friend? Lets consider that family members believe that they are bestest friends and they don’t have any romantic past, then still 5 days sightseeing sounds absurd... i have male best friend and I wouldn’t want to go sightseeing with him whether or not he was my bil. I would be asking his wife to come along!


Also, there has been concerns raised by karishma, ashwini and devi that there is something between devar and bhabi. Wouldn’t family members be bit conscious about it?


i just found who thing ridiculous and absurd. I just cannot think it can be logical in any way!

I hope makers are more conscious about it in future.. its not about being progressive ( they cannot even sell that as Chavans are quite regressive), its about bit quite logical..

I think even in series where they show FL washing laptop, they wouldn’t suggest something like this...

it genuinely feels like family knows about PP feelings and wants to encourage her relationship with her devar!!



Thank you all for making me hooked to this forum 😊😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Okay, i did say i was confused if i should watch the episode after reading the analysis but i did dare to and i had to watch it from yesterday's last scene since had skipped it.

Aaj thoda difference of opinion hain......mala maaf kara 😒


After watching the episode, i will give a benefit of doubt to Virat. He was not thinking about anything, he just wanted to go and look for his brother. He was not ok with roaming around with Vahini, his expressions were clear. When she enthusiastically stated will book the tickets, he told her to wait to get the leave application. (And that's the first time i saw a slight change in Vahini's expression - Like ismein bhi wait karu).

About Virat defending Mohit, that was not the focus of the discussion. Yes he needs to stand up but he is not made that way. Agar woh aisa hota toh apne liye hi stand le leta. The only person he currently stands for and also against is one and only TPS (Hamari Sai). He is flawed

Yes, the thought of taking Sai did not cross his mind as his focus was on finding out information about Samrat and Pakhi was not even in the forefront. Also he was not unhappy with the thought of Sai coming along. There has to be a progression in the characters and its there. Had the relation between Vahini and Godu been like a normal Devar Bhabhi, even Ashwini Aai would not have suggested. She knows Vahini's intentions Virat doesn't. So i would say cut the man some slack, don't think he was wrong or gave mixed signals. We look for Sairat growth so this is how it is, he did not ask, she said no with a taunt. Let the man process all the information, he is a slow learner he will get there.

Coming to Sai's question in the car, what was he supposed to answer when she had already said no. She was expecting him to say yes, but how would he know she wants to go or if its bothering her. But he did get the drift from both the ends and a little push woh laal gulaab kardega (hopefully).

If Pakhi taunts him for giving roses to Sai, he needs to ask why is she saying this and if Sai taunts him for giving a rose to Pakhi, he should answered Baiko ko problem ho raha hain.


Sorry but my logical brain wants to side with Virat today, he needs some assertion from Sai (which she is doing, she did not taunt Virat today and that's growth in the relation) , agar woh mile toh banda kuch bhi karle. (writers kripa karein khali). We have seen him doing it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Saichintalli


Great analysis janaki, apki titles mast ho mast 👌👌

Aabhar haan.. some days i spend more time thinking of the title than writing the post 🤣

Virat seriously never think about repercussions of his decisions, I don't how he became IPS... I agree he love samrat , and it's ok to go but 5 days for sightseeing, seriously dude.. and on top of that Kaku dialogue" shadi ke badh kush kushi nahi meli" so is virat is Stepini for samarat or what .... Chalo beta virat ko use Karo still samrat returns😰😰

I agree ,but raat ko baath karthe hai made me feel he planned something but I don't want to rise my expectations because I have full confidence on our CVS 😐😐

Even if he has a plan now, my problem is that it does not instinctively come to his mind that there is Sai involved in the picture while being silent on a very apparent suggestion of an outing with his 'ex love interest'. How can he not think of her reaction to this?


Few points to add, sometimes I feel karishma's dialogue are nothing but sairat fans inner voice... Her dialogue paper sign karke courier bhi tho karsakthe hai and Kaku thing😂😂

I agree! 😆

PS: no offense to actress, but pp should have inner voice in every scene atleast we will get to know what is she feeling because her expressions are flat... I don't understand Bengali or Tamil but actresses playing pp character over there are really good in expressions

We had a monologue today, thankfully, where her intentions were clearly expressed 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyyy

Good morning Janaki. I lost whatever I had typed 😭. I don't know how much I will be able to retype

I know that feeling smiley26


Virat had only one thing on his mind so I understand he was clueless when Ashwini was suggesting to take Sai along. For him, this trip meant business, not a vacation. He was not ok with the idea of sightseeing with Vahini. I think he was very diplomatic when he said he will check for many days he will be able to take off. He wanted to avoid sightseeing by stating this as the reason. He liked the idea of Sai joining them when Ashwini proposed that idea. If he wasn't keen on taking Sai along, he would not even waste his time in convincing her.

I completely get you. I did understand, just like Sai's understanding smile, that he wants to desperately bring Samrat back and also his need to take the opportunity. He had no intentions of going on sightseeing with Vahini. But my problem is that his silence is too misleading. And I do not understand how he cannot see it.

Actually, I think Sai did not get as offended about it as she should have because she understood his reason to go but she's definitely going to tell him a few things when they do the "Raat ko baat karte hain" because he did not object to the offer of "nazaarein dekhna" with Vahini --it did not sound as such a decent proposal that he should choose diplomacy. Just like Sai needs to learn to keep quiet at times, he needs to learn to speak. The choice of words "shaadi ke baad ki khushi" - you can't be diplomatic about some things, especially when you have set high standards of expectations from your young wife about how she should speak to another man, feel about another man's voice etc. Yes, he has not even said that in words but his actions speak for itself. Why doesn't he feel morally obliged to assert his stand where a suggestion can definitely cause some issues between their already complicated marriage from which he's beginning to have expectations. Either he should leave it at the deal or then be fair in his expectations vis-a-vis his performance towards his spousal duties. The onus of giving "emotional intimacy" is all on Sai? I don't understand why she should be the only one to understand what he wants and he can get away with whatever he feels because we know his intentions are not wrong.

Come on, even when Mohit and Karishma expressed their wish to go, he was supportive and you could see that -- because Virat's reactions have to be seen for his stand. But then, why can't he voice it out

Even I didn't get that and I was hoping you will be ablr to decode it

My only take away from that dialogue was his need to tell his mother, "let it pass, let them have the laugh" as usual. She was called "moorkh" for God's sake, for making a valid suggestion.


I find it unfair to expect Virat to take a stand for everyone in the family . Virat being Virat did not give much importance to Mohit’s issue as there were more important things to focus on . People were jumping from one topic to another so he seemed to be confused and I don’t blame him for it .

I realized one thing , Mohit has never supported Virat until now and they don’t share a close bond so it’s obvious Virat will not jump for his defense when Mohit has his parents to support him . During Virat’s marriage , Mohit was happy that Virat will be under Kaku’s radar now and was happy to see the drama that will unfold when truth will be out , having gone through the same pain Mohit could have shown some empathy.

No, I don't want him to take a stand for Mohit. That part Mohit has to do himself, which he did. Mohit needs to find his own battles. But what i expect is to "object" --repeating the word. Object to what doesn't sound right. 'Gadhe aur Ghode me farak' -- come on, if this is how Mohit has been treated all his life and added to it their age difference, then i totally get it why they are not close to each other despite being cousins. It also tells a lot about how "chalta hai" Virat has been about the way people around him are treated on a day-to-day basis.

Like I said before , for him it was business and he is clear about his feelings so the thought of ex lovers would not have crossed his mind . I felt bad for Sai but Virat believes Sai doesn’t care about his friendship with Pakhi .As per him , it’s a deal marriage for Sai and she has no feelings for him. Her constant reminder of deal marriage, her refusing to accept his room as hers had made him believe she is not into him . He was kind of happy with Alta and hospital episode but deep down he still believes this marriage means nothing for Sai . He takes all her statements seriously without understanding the true meaning behind it . I understand where Sai is coming from but Virat doesn’t know the real feelings of Sai as she masks it behind taunts and indifference .

I differ about Virat's knowledge about Sai's feeling for his "friendship" with Vahini. Yes, he doesn't realise that she thinks he's in "love" but he definitely knows that Sai feels uncomfortable about the friendship. That is one reason why he actually lessened his mention of her in their space, which is good.

I also disagree that it is a deal marriage as per him . He is the one who is not considering it as a deal- he never did to begin with. It was always to be a "normal marriage" without consummation. But even that has changed now. He always had a sense of entitlement on her, to be making decisions on her behalf and he always expected 'loyalty' from her in every which way. So where is the same emotion in return? Okay, we can now say that it is coming from his newfound feelings that he is feeling insecure and jealous because Sai is not giving him the signs of "acceptance" - but no, it cannot be his defence to say that the marriage doesn't mean anything to Sai. It is he who told her to think that way and he has expectations from her without making her know that it is he who now wants her to consider permanence in the marriage. He takes her statements seriously without recalling that the reason behind it is his own miscommunication. What else can she do but mask it with indifference, when he reminded her with pointed fingers about how "Tumhe fark nahi padna chahiye" when his best friend felt beizzati and left the house? I find it utterly unfair that there should be this one-way expectation from Sai to understand his unsaid emotions when the actions are clearly contradictory, and he himself doesn't know what he is feeling.

Still, as I said, I saw a kind of understanding half-smile Sai had on her face when Virat said Samrat is important to him today. She's not even grudging anything about him wanting to go but feeling like a third ticket is valid. I don't think she even wants to go really. Who would want to go with Didi in company? But it's just that she wants to check if he wants her to come.

I still feel Sai was revealing too much to her professor she hardly knew. Another thing I noticed was she just revealed about Virat’s condition conveniently forgetting about her side of deal . Virat never asked her to leave after 5 yrs . I am not blaming her but she hasn’t realized that her few statements made for whatever reasons has made a huge impact on Virat . He believes she never wanted him just like she believes he loves Pakhi .

Virat did ask her to leave, if she wants. She has taken it as "My responsibility will be over once you are a doctor" What is wrong about feeling that way? I find it unfair again that she is the one who should realise that her statements have pushed Virat into a shell. What about his "Main kisi aur se vaada kar chuka hoon", "Tumhe kabhi pyaar nahi kiya", "Tum umeed mat rakhna". All that nonsense was spoken by him first and she's the one who has taken him seriously and rightfully so smiley36smiley36


Let assume for a sec , Virat did not give any Vaada to Pakhi . Do you think Sai would have accepted to be his wife from day one and would have treated it as normal marriage. Maybe over a period, but not immediately. Maybe because of the deal she was convinced to marry him as she doesn't have to be his wife in the true sense.

The answer is "Yes". She would have. She was looking for that answer when she went to ask him the questions after her suicide attempt. She wanted a marriage of love. She would have gladly given it her all to make it work right from day one - just like she's willing to go the extra mile even now, despite all the uncertainty!


Nitu, I loved your post 🤗 I love disagreements and discussions. It's activated my brain cells after a long time about the conflict between them. 😆❤️ (Did i get your name right?)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch

Okay, i did say i was confused if i should watch the episode after reading the analysis but i did dare to and i had to watch it from yesterday's last scene since had skipped it.

Aaj thoda difference of opinion hain......mala maaf kara 😒


After watching the episode, i will give a benefit of doubt to Virat. He was not thinking about anything, he just wanted to go and look for his brother. He was not ok with roaming around with Vahini, his expressions were clear. When she enthusiastically stated will book the tickets, he told her to wait to get the leave application. (And that's the first time i saw a slight change in Vahini's expression - Like ismein bhi wait karu).

About Virat defending Mohit, that was not the focus of the discussion. Yes he needs to stand up but he is not made that way. Agar woh aisa hota toh apne liye hi stand le leta. The only person he currently stands for and also against is one and only TPS (Hamari Sai). He is flawed

Yes, the thought of taking Sai did not cross his mind as his focus was on finding out information about Samrat and Pakhi was not even in the forefront. Also he was not unhappy with the thought of Sai coming along. There has to be a progression in the characters and its there. Had the relation between Vahini and Godu been like a normal Devar Bhabhi, even Ashwini Aai would not have suggested. She knows Vahini's intentions Virat doesn't. So i would say cut the man some slack, don't think he was wrong or gave mixed signals. We look for Sairat growth so this is how it is, he did not ask, she said no with a taunt. Let the man process all the information, he is a slow learner he will get there.

Coming to Sai's question in the car, what was he supposed to answer when she had already said no. She was expecting him to say yes, but how would he know she wants to go or if its bothering her. But he did get the drift from both the ends and a little push woh laal gulaab kardega (hopefully).

If Pakhi taunts him for giving roses to Sai, he needs to ask why is she saying this and if Sai taunts him for giving a rose to Pakhi, he should answered Baiko ko problem ho raha hain.


Sorry but my logical brain wants to side with Virat today, he needs some assertion from Sai (which she is doing, she did not taunt Virat today and that's growth in the relation) , agar woh mile toh banda kuch bhi karle. (writers kripa karein khali). We have seen him doing it.


Abhi aati reply karne ko... Thodyavelane.😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome Analysis janki 🤗

Aaj toh meri mann karrahi thi ki yeah poori CN ko baraf peh letadu takki dimaag toda Tanda hojayeh aur mooh peh tala lagh jayeh yeah logh kya Tanna ki ready made factory hai kya ufff

Well virat ki state was like he was freezed by his wife usko dekke banda ekdum mantramukth type kaditi he was not that much paying attention kya horrahi I expected him to take stand for his aai firmly but I don't know may be he is playing cool headed guy

But I loved Mohit reaction he tried to understand his aswini kaku , I felt he kind of understood why his aswini kaku was doing this isliyeh he said he will go instead but yeah venomous people bhi nah usseh bhi nahi choddha iam seeing him soon joining sais gang because she gonna show faith in him inspire him , waiseh sai ki saath nah janneh ki faiseleh seh janab ko kyom mild shock laga huh , if u want her to accompany you for the trip u should have asked her directly , yah phir during jeep scene u should have made it clear not like yeah I will think of reasons to make u agree to come with me in night , virat has become a smooth lier these days , but because of all these the one step sai put forward in their deal wala marriage she is gonna take that step back and will try to shield her heart from breaking , this man really needs to convey his message clearly warna they will be back to square one


Well I really loved sai and pulkit Bonding ,he is also gonna be her another support system ek prof stud relation seh zyada I get the vibe of bro sis from them ,

Well precap dekhe mujhe hassi arahi thi pakhi ki chehra dekhke after seeing that pic of virat giving rise to sai

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