Ladakh ki ladai, "Love" pe aafat aayi - Page 8

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire

Seriously, super annoyed. They could have atleast shown Sai waking up early and seeing a peaceful Virat fast asleep..similar to how he admires her..Some connect, before she goes for war with CN.

I actually seriously want to know who wakes up first 😆

😣 Seriously, Is the expectation for Virat to satisfy the shaadiwala kushi, Gosh, Bhavani ji, you are some modern kayalat lady..

His silence to this particular comment was baffling. It cannot be ignored. Diplomacy ki bhi height hoti hai and bewakoofi mein ek fine line hoti hai

Yes, I really didnt get why they had to change the dialogue to Ashwini, when original versions in regional languages had it as their ML. It would be have a critical point to show that he feels that she is in biwi and start building deep trust, that with Devi Tai, if she didnt listen and screw up or kind of do a favor, he has the right to get mad or throw her out. Now he is behaving like doesnt matter to me if she lives or leaves. The one or two eye stares and handholds aren't doing the trick for me. sorry CVS, you better up your script. Sai asked again in the car. Some dumb jilebi answer.

I, frankly, don't want to compare with the other two versions anymore. It is better to take this as a fresh story because they are obviously changing and adding justifications to his actions -- the call to army man Sood and the whole hospital scene with some Samrat, so that we know he's "emotional" enough to make another illogical vaada to someone 🤪🤪 But all that set aside, my question is only about his relationship with Sai. As you rightly said, what is his attempt that building the trust that he now wants from her? It has to be a two way street. And only playing a jealous jasoos+stepney tyre to Didi ki gadi will not help.

Overall in today's episode, I liked Ashwini's stand, who is trying to prove a point to Sai. Sai, even if she gets it, doesnt want to budge bcos it didnt come from the very man, who needs to clear his head on what direction he has to sail. Pulkit chat was really heartwarming. He loved Devi and she got married to someone else? sounded like that..If Viji is Devi's daughter and Samrat is in hospital and might die?? Will Pulkit take ownership of these two? Wow, am getting creative ideas.

Yes, I also wondered about Pulkit saying that "some people marry some others"... and then Devyani mentioned Pati and Baby. Now I don't know what new jalebi combinations are coming. May be the paneer jalebi variety 😆

Me replied in green.

Also, wanted to add to your reply yesterday about the over-use of the pompoms on Sai's attire. Oh, it's such an eyesore that all her dresses have these blue pompoms, whether they match or not. I really don't understand why that basically decent striped kurta was ruined with that kathak coat and dupatta? She needs to visit FabIndia or the likes...

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Nitu, I loved your post 🤗 I love disagreements and discussions. It's activated my brain cells after a long time about the conflict between them. 😆❤️ (Did i get your name right?)

My replies in green

Same here Janaki . I love discussing and reading about SaiRat . Their behavior is so complicated and both are flawed so it’s not easy to take anyone’s side . I keep oscillating as a pendulum changing sides each day . You got my name right 😀. I have copied your answers in green to respond to them as IF doesn’t allow to quote older messages . My answers are in black

Actually, I think Sai did not get as offended about it as she should have because she understood his reason to go but she's definitely going to tell him a few things when they do the "Raat ko baat karte hain" because he did not object to the offer of "nazaarein dekhna" with Vahini --it did not sound as such a decent proposal that he should choose diplomacy. Just like Sai needs to learn to keep quiet at times, he needs to learn to speak. The choice of words "shaadi ke baad ki khushi" - you can't be diplomatic about some things, especially when you have set high standards of expectations from your young wife about how she should speak to another man, feel about another man's voice etc. Yes, he has not even said that in words but his actions speak for itself. Why doesn't he feel morally obliged to assert his stand where a suggestion can definitely cause some issues between their already complicated marriage from which he's beginning to have expectations. Either he should leave it at the deal or then be fair in his expectations vis-a-vis his performance towards his spousal duties. The onus of giving "emotional intimacy" is all on Sai? I don't understand why she should be the only one to understand what he wants and he can get away with whatever he feels because we know his intentions are not wrong.

He has his own way of dealing with issues . He believes in actions rather than words . We might not see him openly opposing the sight seeing but he will make it obvious through his actions . Eventually if the trip had happened he would have avoided the sight seeing stating leaves as a reason . I think he wants to avoid confrontation as it doesn’t lead them anywhere . You get tangled in arguments and real issue is lost . I believe it’s a smart way of handling the situation but at times he needs to voice them as well so delusional people like Pakhi can get the message loud and clear .

During the name changing ritual , he did not say anything when Kaku was pressurizing Sai to change her name . He just showed his support through his actions . Actions speak louder than words . The purpose was served .

Come on, even when Mohit and Karishma expressed their wish to go, he was supportive and you could see that -- because Virat's reactions have to be seen for his stand. But then, why can't he voice it out

I think he was not ready to talk about it today as there were bigger issues to be addressed . Somewhere he wanted personally go for Samrat’s sake .

No, I don't want him to take a stand for Mohit. That part Mohit has to do himself, which he did. Mohit needs to find his own battles. But what i expect is to "object" --repeating the word. Object to what doesn't sound right. 'Gadhe aur Ghode me farak' -- come on, if this is how Mohit has been treated all his life and added to it their age difference, then i totally get it why they are not close to each other despite being cousins. It also tells a lot about how "chalta hai" Virat has been about the way people around him are treated on a day-to-day basis.

He was trying to diffuse the situation and though he was upset with the way Mohit was treated he believed it was not the right time to talk about it . He has stayed with them for long and he knows confrontation leads no where so he avoids it . I remember a scene during Samrat’s wedding where Mohit was insulted and Samrat did the same . He tried changing the topic instead of addressing it . When you have to deal with such people on the daily basics you will not have the strength to argue for every small matter . If it was anything big which would impact Mohit’s life then he would have taken a stand but in his eyes these taunts can be ignored . He ignores when his family taunts him about his dedication towards work . That’s how he is .

Somewhere I find Mohit to be very selfish and he hasn’t done anything to deserve the unconditionally support from his cousins . He was present during the masala grinding episode and did not utter a word or show discomfort when Sai was in pain . He did not take a stand for Sai when she was manhandled in absence of her husband . Now that Sai will take a stand for him in future he will join her team for his benefit . It’s like let me join Sai team so I can expect some support from her .

I differ about Virat's knowledge about Sai's feeling for his "friendship" with Vahini. Yes, he doesn't realise that she thinks he's in "love" but he definitely knows that Sai feels uncomfortable about the friendship. That is one reason why he actually lessened his mention of her in their space, which is good.

I think just like Virat , Sai is a jalebi makers as well . She questions others in spasht shabdh but when it comes to her turn she doesn’t communicate clearly . Most of the times her insecurities come out as taunts and taunts are negative emotions so the other person will ignore it . She might have her reasons for doing so but it sends a confused message to Virat . This makes Virat believe it’s just a deal marriage for her . He understands Sai doesn’t like Pakhi but he doesn’t know the real reason behind it . If we look at last few scenes , Sai has served enough Jalebis to confuse him . I am not saying Virat is clear about his feelings and I agree she is doing it to protect her but one of them have it to let go off their insecurity and make them the first move . It’s a dead lock where Virat is insecure so he serves some jalebis and Sai as a reaction serves few . It’s not going to end if one of them don’t have the courage to own their feelings

I also disagree that it is a deal marriage as per him . He is the one who is not considering it as a deal- he never did to begin with. It was always to be a "normal marriage" without consummation. But even that has changed now. He always had a sense of entitlement on her, to be making decisions on her behalf and he always expected 'loyalty' from her in every which way. So where is the same emotion in return? Okay, we can now say that it is coming from his newfound feelings that he is feeling insecure and jealous because Sai is not giving him the signs of "acceptance" - but no, it cannot be his defence to say that the marriage doesn't mean anything to Sai. It is he who told her to think that way and he has expectations from her without making her know that it is he who now wants her to consider permanence in the marriage. He takes her statements seriously without recalling that the reason behind it is his own miscommunication. What else can she do but mask it with indifference, when he reminded her with pointed fingers about how "Tumhe fark nahi padna chahiye" when his best friend felt beizzati and left the house? I find it utterly unfair that there should be this one-way expectation from Sai to understand his unsaid emotions when the actions are clearly contradictory, and he himself doesn't know what he is feeling.

I was saying he believes it was a deal marriage for her . Initially , he never expected anything from her and it was deal from his end but over a period of time he has changed because of his feelings for her . I disagree that Virat only expects . Even before expecting from Sai ,had done things to show his care , concern and affection to her . He went above and beyond to make her results day a special one for her. He took her on an outing ,he tried to make her first day special by gifting her and offering to drop her off . In return if he expects little acknowledgement or have dinner together then is it a big deal .

His vaada was all about not having loving any other girl and its not related to physical intimacy so if he was expecting a normal marriage then he was not true to his vaada . He can be physically involved with anyone without “love” and by doing so he is not breaking his promise .

Still, responsibility will be over once you are a doctor" What is wrong about feeling that way? I find it unfair again that she is the one who should realise that her statements have pushed Virat into a shell. What about his "Main kisi aur se vaada kar chuka hoon", "Tumhe kabhi pyaar nahi kiya", "Tum umeed mat rakhna". All that nonsense was spoken by him first and she's the one who has taken him seriously and rightfully so

She was the one who rejected him in the first place , isn’t it ? He did not place these conditions along with the proposal. Like he said before , she made him feel not worthy of marrying her and I agree even he did the same to her .

The answer is "Yes". She would have. She was looking for that answer when she went to ask him the questions after her suicide attempt. She wanted a marriage of love. She would have gladly given it her all to make it work right from day one - just like she's willing to go the extra mile even now, despite all the uncertainty!

I don’t think she would hav agreed to be his wife in all sense . She wanted to know why he was marrying her if there was no love between them , for her love was an essential thing for a normal marriage . At that time she did not love him to consider him as her husband in true sense .

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Ek choti samsya, ye ACP saheb ke itne bade bheje main baat daalega kon ki Baiko ko Vahini se problem hain. I mean Baiko wali problem. Till now he only feels and knows they don't like each other

Spashta shadon mein bole toh, Baiko ke kuch dialogues:-

1) I dont have a problem with you both talking but talk in her room

2) Mujhe koi farak nahi padta, aap pakhi didi se baat karein ya na karein

3) Aap dono baith ke khana khaiye aur meri burai kijeeye

4) Aap ke liye khana kon layega Pakhi didi ya main leke aaun

These are some spashta things which hamari Sai Bai ne bole aur Navra uska underline comment nahi samjh paya. For him it was always she does not like Pakhi and hence she does not like me talking to her. He has never felt that she is jealous of her or he talking to Pakhi bothers her. He needs to feel it.

The same way, in Amey case he was jealous the way she was talking to him. She got the drift that he was upset about that but even she did not tag it as jealousy, he also said point blank he did not like it.

Same in case of Aniket, she thinks he went to do Jasoosi par kyun uska jawab hain kahan (hawa mein ya hamare pass) 🤔

We know they are jealous but do they know that the feeling is of jealousy, ek toh deal aur zimmedari se bahar aate nahi, feelings samjhte nahi hain aur hum hain yahan jo inko defend karte hain.

The options which i mentioned above, i seriously hope he swings to B as he needs to understand he being around Pakhi affects her considering he being the "Machure" one. He has an idea but he has not yet brought it to the forefront. Again if the red rose could do the wonders, i hope so nahi toh uss scene ka koi matlab nahi hain.

As when she said no, that she would not go with them there was no jealously there. How will he know, please ACP se itna kaam mat karao ki purane cheeze yaad karein aur samjhe.

Also the he needs to take few steps nahi toh kuch nahi hoga, aise hi gol gol ghumenge ye log.

Hi I’m a silent reader, I usually don’t have anything to say so I don’t write anything. But today I have so here it goes:

What Virat said to his mom felt Like to me that was a taunt to the elders, they way he said it and looked around in the room felt more like it specially when both women looked with a bit of surprise at him.

With Paakhi feeling Sai that you insulted me again I shouldn’t come back. I don’t get how did she insult her? Isn’t it quite opposite that Paakhi insults Sai more than her? If every time Sai left the house with the amount of times mature didi has insulted her, there wouldn’t be any type of petrol left on the planet. And I count electric cars too. Paakhi is almost daily insulting Sai, but once she said nothing majorly big it became a problem and that was a big “insult”.

I live in Sweden and here it’s normal to get personal with our teachers/mentors if we are having problems at home. Which affects our lives a lot. So Sai discussing her problems with Pulkit felt very natural to me. And teacher/mentors have to keep silent of what they discussed, otherwise it’s a volition of privacy. Somewhere like doctors with the HIPPA rule which they have to follow. But teacher and students usually don’t discuss stuff like this in a corridor, sometimes happens but very rare, if the corridor is somewhat empty maybe then.

Originally posted by: prs_725

That would have been amazing bc he does get ideas from bhabhiji lol if she says you go to honeymoon w your wife Virat .. he actually will lol

After watching them Atleast he would get ideas 🤣 Abhi toh he has no idea what romance is .. sai ke liye phool bc of Aniket and ghar wall ke liye khaas kar phool leke aya wah 😵

Virat is ullu da pattha! That's all I can say for him😆

Originally posted by: Sairat

😔😪🤧😢😭😱😤😡🤬

These were my ranges of emotion in today's episode, from morning eyelock(Swarg/heaven) to seedha zameen pe patakna, dukha bahut sai ko bhi aur as a audience humein bhi.

I don't understand a person who is an intelligent ACP, how can he become such such a dumb husband/son/brother; matlab itna frequency se toh pendulum bhi oscillate nhi karta jitna "KJ" kar jaate hai🤔

I really feel bad for Sai😔, i had hopes from Aniket, but CV's ne uska bhi satyanash kar dia.There should be someone who makes her feel special( every girl should have, especially our dewdrop🥀,😢) , someone she knows will have her back no matter what!!

Because Virat😤 is not, his oscillation whatever reason has given dum -filled🐍 enough courage to become 🐉.

Trust me i was so 🤬 when Sarplekha caught Sai's hand 😱in that manner, dil toh kiya Tv ke andar ghuskar, use ek ulte haath ka maaru👋 ki uski saari maturity bahar nikal aaye ek baar mei😤

Matlab what would be the end line for Virat🤨, i am seriously baffeled.

Coming to CN gang , as you pointed out and someone else, what kind of EMA (matlab ab toh pura clear ho gya hai EMA hi promote kar rahe hai)🤮🤢 are they promoting??

@ bold - couldn't agree more!

He is not a ML with shades - he is totally black, a moral-less pendulum.

An IPS does not know what he wants or should do (or should NOT) ????????????? how he cleared exams ?

ML like mohit's character looks more relatable

- not working, unsuccessful, struggling, not so favorite in family.... still standing by his wife & had courage to do love marriage, not delusional, not moral less 😊

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

No, it is not your annoyance towards the character. He hasn't given any thought to her feelings in the context of the intimacy -- he does not delve into her insecurities even when she's expressing it but he catches on to her words that are of conveniently linked to his own insecurity - "mere pati khadoos hain, mujhse pyaar nahi karte, meri zarooretin hain, mujhe bhi pyaar chahiye"... he actually didn't think of the fact that she needs it, it was more like "she thinks someone else can give it to her, not me? Why? Don't I do it already? I even got her candy floss!" So even her whole speaking to Pakhi Didi about bringing dinner and how it would give him happiness because there is no competition was taken in the way, "oh I am not important to her, she doesn't want to do this for me. Why should she want Pakhi to do it", instead of "oh this is how my action makes her feel about my friendship with vahini". So that is my problem with him. I cannot give him the benefit of doubt yet on this issue 😆

Makes me think if I should call him ignorant or self centered?

What do you think?

There is no chance that he gets the benefit of doubt. Forget about giving a thought he hasn't even paid attention to the meaning of the words... As you said, he has selectively heard and understood whatever he wanted to and the rest is irrelevant to him!