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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood!🌻🌺🌸

Please pardon any spelling errors or incoherent thoughts -- my head is still spinning from the ride on this Chakram niwas ki time machine -- July to November to February to November and back to February after being stranded in between in the books of accounts of excessive ration kharcha with Shri Ninad Chavan, where November and February met each other... but December-January kiske pyaar me ghum ho gaye? 🙄 I am guessing the connecting months took away the connecting dots of ACP Chavan saheb's mind as well...

What a drag of an episode and how disconnected from the moments that were supposed to be lived hours ago (we saw them in yesterday's episode)

So the question i asked yesterday has been answered --- What was the purpose of this namesake Samrat in the hospital track?

The answer: To show how emotionally vulnerable Virat feels about his Jeeva -- so much that he can take a complete U-turn within seconds from being love eyed and 'distracted' when he saw his 'wife' entering the scene to being ready to accompany 1.47 hours wale yoga love ke delusion mein ji rahi jilted lover to Ladakh to find her real husband 'jisse Woh jaanti tak nahi', without even sparing a thought about what the real deal wali wife would feel about his outing with his 'pyaarosti'.

Was Virat genuinely hypnotized to give slow reactions to what was happening around? Right from his surprise but silence to Mohit and Karishma's humiliation to Ninad's uncouth behaviour to Ashwini's suggestion of booking three tickets -- was it slow comprehension or Virat had lost his voice?

Honestly, he lacked conviction today --to stop the insults being meted out to his mother or Mohit or even waking up to the idea of Sai accompanying on the trip. In fact, even when Ashwini suggested three tickets, he wondered who else needed to come along! 😮 Anything that he says or does to convince Sai now will really not matter.

And what was that "Wo Baat mat boliye jisse log aapki Soch par swaal uthayen?" Or something... What did it even mean?

Ashwini's stern, "Main tumse keh rahi hoon aur tumhe jaana hi hoga" enough to get every guilty person in that room to feel offended about what she didn't say in words -- the malice and the indecent proposal that lay behind the "Samrat ko dhoondo" trip. Bhavani's genuine concern for Samrat left me confused -- was it an act?

I am glad Mohit spoke for himself but Ninad's choice of words for his nephew in the presence of the parents and the total silence from everyone and only a clenched jaw from the police wala was a disappointing scene. How do you berate someone to break any ounce of confidence they might be trying to hold on to to find their feet? Watch this scene. And why can't all of them to to Ladakh for a family outing to make the Susheel bahu feel better? Why does it have to be a 'shaadi ke baad wali Khushi Nahi Mili' wala 'nazaarein Dekh Kar aao' trip with the missing husband's cousin 🙄😳😣

If Samrat is really hiding in Ladakh, he will dig a deeper trench in the ice and hide himself 😣😐

Now, I don't have a problem with him wanting to go to Ladakh or even accompany his bade Bhai ki wife --- but well, he knows absolutely well that she's not the Vahini at all to him... Even so, we know Virat's intentions are pure but then one can't absolve him of the hypocrisy -- for a man whose insecurity overpowers his logic if Sai mentions another man or just fools around with one, his thought process ought to be wired to also address any possible insecurity his wife would thus feel. It should naturally occur to him as first instinct to look at Sai before making such an offer to his 'ex lover' that she's so aware of -- no matter how pure his intention. But no, not even for a fleeting second did he show any inclination of having thought about Sai or even gauging her reaction to his offer to his 'best friend'.

I, in fact, saw a kind of understanding half-smile Sai had on her face when Virat said Samrat is important to him. Perhaps, it was moment where Sai took consolation in the fact that there was a 'bigger' reason for him wanting to go than just have alone time with his 'best friend' -- his silence throughout the Chakram niwasis explaining the importance of making Patralekha experience the 'happiness in a marriage' by taking her for the outing was very loud for Sai to ignore.

But, I felt sorry for the girl who's trying to convince herself that she doesn't want to go on the tour. She would definitely choose to stay back rather than go with Didi in company but wouldn't she have wanted Virat to ask her? Of course...

"Yahan mere jaane ki baat Kisi ne Nahi ki..."

Of course that Kisi should have been Virat and not Ashwini. More than it being Ashwini's suggestion first, Sai would definitely feel let down by the fact that it didn't even strike Virat what his mother was saying until she offered the long explanation to Ninad's dull comment.

Virat only seemed affected by Sai's rejection of the offer and I don't get why! I mean, he didn't even have her on his mind all that while but suddenly, the moment she turns down Ashwini's suggestion, there is a look of indignation. Come on, husband Chavan, don't play that card as you please.

Does Sai not want to go along? I think she would have agreed if Virat would have made the first suggestion... She wanted to know what Virat was thinking. Her "Kya aap chahte Hain main Aapke Saath aaun" in the drive to the college was not meant to be funny as she made it out to be about 'best friends' knowing each other's mind. It was a question asked to gauge his feeling about wanting to go alone with his 'pyaar-dosti'.

I found his entire conduct towards Sai rather insensitive. He was so out of touch with her feeling at that moment -- he couldn't read what she was thinking or feeling at all. He didn't want to delve into her mind -- but she was sitting beside him, the morning after calling herself his 'biwi', spending some intimate moments of belonging with each other and back to square one with the feeling of being the 'teesra ticket'🥺

Virat looked enchanted for a brief moment when she spoke about love being an emotion to be expressed everyday... But the entire conversation about Valentine's Day -- oh, that radio suddenly talking in between felt like Bhavani's stooge from Chakram niwas Ka special space in outer space -- and the 'love' seemed rather bland to me... Because Sai was hiding behind the 'fun', a deep sense of being the foresaken one. And Virat could have made her feel better but "is baare me Raat ko baat karte hain".. as Sukri said yesterday, Virat does a very fine job with lying when he feels cornered or at loss to continue a logical argument. He needs that entire day to come up with something to convincingly answer the questions Sai has asked -- because her refusal to accompany them and the face off between Delusional Didi and her have got him thinking that he's just created a 'small mess' (Small?). Did he get the 'jasoosi+jasoos' connect?

Her 'jasoos' khitaab for Virat is perfect.. someone tell him that he's also bordering on becoming a sleazo detective with one sided expectation of 'devotion' in mind, body, soul, words, voice, phone, dance and even bye-byes. But since the space in the official Scorpio has been largely left uncontaminated by the fumes of the dum the chakrams spoke, he took the 'KJ' christening as a compliment in the end.

Sai gave him the cue to speak and clear the air but Virat was unprepared for it because he had realised that his lollypops were not going to be accepted. To me, it didn't come across as anything but Sai's attempt as usual to cover up her own dashed hope with a childish joke -- Pari ki padhai. She does it so often when she has to put on the 'I-don't-care' face. But behind it, there was hurt and she did dwell on it because she couldn't help it when she spoke about it to Pulkit.

For a moment, I thought Sai was revealing too much to the Professor she barely knows --- but well, if it's Valentine's Day, it must have been at least three months since first day of college in November? What a jarring inconsistency this is - such a shoddy job by the creatives. What kind of science or math does one need to know to establish the sense of time? So we are supposed to be oscillating from one month to the other without connecting the time we've spent on understanding Chavan Saheb's Kabhi Haan Kabhi na?🥴🥴

Coming back to Sai's sharing her mind with Pulkit... I found the scene such a natural emotion she must be feeling at that moment (very terrible presentation though, with that last shot coming out of no where just to forcibly end the episode). Doesn't it happen so many times when you're so overwhelmed with this feeling of hurt, pain and the burden of having to put up a smile and fight back the tears? And you want to dial that one person you can vent out to, cry with, speak to and feel better? Unfortunately, who does she have? I guess the need to speak about the 'temporary marriage' was such that she just spoke aloud to Pulkit -- the first person she met from her small circle of acquaintances she knew... It was more a reminder to herself that it was a temporary marriage and after long, also the fact that her 'husband' was in love with another woman. Wasn't it exactly how she felt that morning? 🥺

But it was also for the first time that she confessed it "won't be easy" to just leave once the time comes to end her stay in her 'husband's house'. Why should an 18-19 year old have to ride this emotional roller coaster ride with such a confused man -- now, he's not really confused about his emotion for her, we know. But why the confusing, almost contradictory actions to push her into her state of loneliness in her mind? There's no feeling more painful than feeling 'alone' despite having company. Why is it that everytime she gets an indication of Virat's feeling, either his thoughtless action or deliberate silence on an issue pushes her to believe his 'miscommunicated' feelings for the bade Bhai ki wife?

And today, he even looked genuinely hypnotised by delusional Didi. Was it that good acting or did Didi's eyes really look like the optical spiral illusion?

And, even before anyone spoke Didi was sure that Sai would 'taang adao' and not allow her to go on this real honeymoon with her imaginary husband 😒 but as usual, it was the imaginary saas playing party pooper! 🥳🥳 Didi's mind going, "Bappa, itni nirdayi imaginary saas Kisi ko na mile. Kya dushmani hai inki ki apni imaginary Bahu se? Kaunsi ladki mann hi mann mein Kisi parayi maa ko apni saas manti hai? Can't she see how her son's happiness lies in the imaginary marriage with me? This imaginary saas of mine doesn't value me at all? She doesn't trust me either."

And zabaan par Dil ki chori aa gayi, "Aap Sai ko mujhpar aur Virat par nazar rakhne ke liye bhej rahi hain?"

Lo! Naturally Sai wasn't going to leave that cue.

Ab Didi ki aisi bhi kya dushmani hai ki "samajhdaar aur mature" bulana bhi beizzati mein count ho gaya 🙄😳😂 The scene was choppily chopped. Didi's "Tumne Jo example Diya" dialogue did not have a context.

But chalo iss Sab ke beech a truth came out from the horse's mouth -- "Main Tumhari baat maan Kar laut aayi"... 😂

Didi don't realise what she talking. Just some days (ya months!?) ago, she said, "Parivaar ki parvaah" ke liye laut aayi. Ab Didi Ka gussa is understandable... She was supposed to have full rights in her imaginary husband and it does seem like the imaginary husband is also looking forward to this honeymoon so why are these people even talking about third ticket and jasoosi!? 😮

At the end of all this drama, they will end up cancelling this trip? So what's this drag about? 🥴🙄

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Time kya hua hai, behen log? My phone settings have gone awry travelling back and forth from Chakram niwas to the real-world... Main Kahan hoon aur yahan aur kaun kaun hai?

They say lost time is never found again but Chakram niwas mein there is potential to turn and twist the clock -- but will it also bring back the lost time? Can it call back the river that is flowing by?

Carpe Diem! Grab your cuppas ☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵 and launch yourself at every wave coming towards you before it retreats back in time...

Hugs 🤗🤗🤗 , pyaar ❤️❤️❤️aur manapurvak aabhar 🙏🙏

Ladakh hum hi chale jaate Hain, beheno, chalo!

❤️ J


Awesome analysis as always, detailed yet crisp.
But ye padhne ke baad ab I am also confused episode Dekhu ki nahi.
Ye aadmi itna confused kaise Ho sakta hain, itna slow process kon karta.

The only benefit of doubt I can think of is during the question she asked him directly, fine you didn’t want a hurried conversation and she has already said no. But dope she has said no, but seeking confirmation from you doesn’t that tell him everything.
Now these 2 will have a nice conversation on this after 3 episodes. Inka ek din hafto tak chalta hain Aur mahine chutkiyo mein badalte hain

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you Janki for the write up!! Its unbelievable that writers are making Virat look like a Bipolar personality. As you said we are back to square one like Sai!!


2 episodes ago this guys wanted to hear from Sai that she loves him and today Sai's consent on going on a trip with his ex is not needed. The only grace is Neil is a fabulous actor and because of him we can bare Virat's Bipolar flips!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Inka ek din hafto tak chalta hain Aur mahine chutkiyo mein badalte hain


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Awesome analysis as always, detailed yet crisp.
But ye padhne ke baad ab I am also confused episode Dekhu ki nahi.
Ye aadmi itna confused kaise Ho sakta hain, itna slow process kon karta.

The only benefit of doubt I can think of is during the question she asked him directly, fine you didn’t want a hurried conversation and she has already said no. But dope she has said no, but seeking confirmation from you doesn’t that tell him everything.
Now these 2 will have a nice conversation on this after 3 episodes. Inka ek din hafto tak chalta hain Aur mahine chutkiyo mein badalte hain

Now I understand why this song is for serial title track. Words bol na Pau perfectly feet Virat . He can't say anything in any situation only trying to defuse it . Spineless creater he will dump and will never say anything.

Then will sing bol na Pau ye pyar hi Nahi Kuch bhi bol nahi pata sirf sai , aai ko hi Dina sakata hai .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Good morning 🌄🌄🌄

I don't know what to say for this episode..... It fell flat in many aspects !!!

The whole kaku pravachan about pakhi not getting her share of happiness is cringy. Like what was it ki use honeymoon jaane ka mouka nahi mila toh virat tum uske saat Ladakh jaake waadiyan dikhake aana !!!

In that pravachan the only word she forgot to add is honeymoon for virat and pakhi's trip. Aur yeeee yahi log parampara pratishtha aur anusasan ki baat karte hai 🤦🤦🤦🤦

Aur agar sai saat chalegi toh kounsa samrat sai ko dekhke vapas waadiyon mein bhaag jayega ??? Voh toh pp ke dekhke bhaag jayega to be honest 😡


Mohit 😭😭😭..... What kind of people are these ???? Ghar ke apne hai ya dushman ..... Bolun toh ghar ke hai par dushman se kam nahi .

This scene is a mirror of chakram's past. Every child in that household had a toxic atmosphere all throughout their life. The only breathe of fresh air for them is ashiwni aai's laad ... She loved every child of that house as her own...samrat,virat, devi, Mohit ,karishma ❤️. She loved pp too but 1.47 yogawali story made her hard from outside but still she cares for pakhi. Bhagwan aisi support system jindagi mein har kisiko dey !!!!


Virat toh it's getting difficult to understand him . The kind of flips he keeps doing 🤦🤦🤦. He wanted to go to ladakh for samrat for sure. And also maybe he felt like sai would also want him to go for samrat so didn't mind asking her............. But why is that he never takes a stand🤷🤷🤷 . Your brother is getting insulted there. Mohit is as close as samrat to him by relation if we leave aside the jeeva shiva connect. His aayi, his wife are being insulted still this man chooses to take the most convenient way possible. Apno ke liye toh out of the way jaake bhi ladte haina hum phir why virat keeps taking the middle stand and try to become a peace maker !!!!!

Voh log kabhi bhi shant nahi rehsakte . There's no use in being a peacemaker!!!!!! Virat buckle up and start seeing their true faces🙏🙏.

I feel theres more to the raat ko baat karte hai ... Let's wait and watch.


I loved Sai's convo with pulkit . That's how we are in medical colleges. Our seniors are like our mentors in every aspect of life be it love, marriage, studies, career everything...... I personally have taken their help many a times. And since by chakram clock it's already three months to Sai clg, there are supposed to be good bonds at clg with seniors.


We do share a lot of personal stuff with our close seniors in medical colleges. And it's due to the lot of time we actually spend working together. Cases, rounds , postings , labs ...... And many more. Yes they are not showing all this to us but I believe it's this way 😂😂😂


Some dialogues and scenes are looking forced now a days like the last freeze diogue of today !!!!

I can only pray ki is crew ko thoda better writing skills, costume designer aur editor mil jaye 🙏🙏🙏

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Wait I found the answer “bhusa bhara hain” uske dimaag mein 🤣 we can’t figure him out and he doesn’t say or do anything when needed bc he has bhusa in his brain.. 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The whole thing with Virat’s oscillation between Pakhi and Sai has nothing to do with feelings or love. It is clear that he feels for his deal biwi but I am not able to understand what exactly makes him swing towards his Pyaarosti

What exactly blinds him when it comes to Delusionalekha? Didi ka kya bolna ab... She is on sasta nasha of her 1.47 hr yoga love that keeps her high on her imaginary love.

To be honest, Virat annoys me to no end with his unrealistic expectations from Sai but remains blind towards hers. People might hate me for saying this but Virat is actually a milder or cloaked version of Ninad. He is a chauvinist 🤔 not only He goes crazy because Sai praised 'paraya' man who is a friend but he is immediately ready to fly Ladakh with a 'parayi' woman who is his friend jiski feelings ki sachai Sai ache se janti hai let's just ignore his bhashan about parivar ka saath and bullshit.

It pisses me off to see his behave so insensitively towards Sai and completely disregarding her feelings.... 💔

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome post by you, Janki! 🤗❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AK_2010

The whole thing with Virat’s oscillation between Pakhi and Sai has nothing to do with feelings or love. It is clear that he feels for his deal biwi but I am not able to understand what exactly makes him swing towards his Pyaarosti

What exactly blinds him when it comes to Delusionalekha? Didi ka kya bolna ab... She is on sasta nasha of her 1.47 hr yoga love that keeps her high on her imaginary love.

To be honest, Virat annoys me to no end with his unrealistic expectations from Sai but remains blind towards hers. People might hate me for saying this but Virat is actually a milder or cloaked version of Ninad. He is a chauvinist 🤔 not only He goes crazy because Sai praised 'paraya' man who is a friend but he is immediately ready to fly Ladakh with a 'parayi' woman who is his friend jiski feelings ki sachai Sai ache se janti hai let's just ignore his bhashan about parivar ka saath and bullshit.

It pisses me off to see his behave so insensitively towards Sai and completely disregarding her feelings.... 💔

Same. No one can understand him at this point. I think he’s the type of person that wants to be understood without the understanding. We also have now seen him concealing his actions really well and lying as well (he expects sai to not hide things or lie to him but he does that .. the day she tells him she lied to him .. even a small lie.. I think he will lose it and then it’s so easy to swing him to the direction of ghar wale). What’s in his heart .. only him or his mother knows very well. He never says anything explicitly or won’t even justify his actions ..

I won’t be surprised if we see this Virat in the future as well, moreover, I’m expecting a Virat that will be more blind than who he is right now ..

I think his problem is not voicing what’s in his heart and Sai knows this too . She wants him to speak up but him being him, I don’t think he will anytime soon. The only way we will know he truly is going for samrat is again by his actions. we have seen him run away from Pakhi when it comes to intimacy (emotional and physical) but he has always been there as a lending ear. To him this will all just be a support of a bade bhai ki wife.. what I am interested to know is his slip of “mein Pakhi se pyaar” is transformed to actual love w Sai and realizing what love is. does he still think he love Pakhi? We all know that’s not love and it never was .. but does he still hide that part of him which he thought? Or is Sai just overpowering that feeling that he is overcoming? Basically, is he treating Sai as a rebound? Asking a very uncomfortable question but much needed that will help explain his randomness .. his problem was the feeling that Sai never wanted to marry him and doesn’t do anything for him .. lo, she does so much now. Did he just want someone to care for him? Is he seeking the love he thought he wanted from Pakhi or is he truly in the process of falling for Sai? His oscillation can be explained if we get these answers my lord 😆

This guy went so far to yell at Sai while saying “muje maza nahi aa raha uspe chilla kar” something like that yet kept yelling at her .. that says everything abt what type of Virat we will see and who he is ..he may not enjoy what he does or says yet he won’t change his behavior or tact bc uske dil mein kuch aur hain that he doesn’t show and conceals .. yet again ..

keen to see Virat in this journey as well

Pakhi toh I feel sorry for, imagine having to make a bad decision and then finally realize oh I made a horrible decision and then trying to correct That decision by justifying it and watering it at every point.. we all have made bad decisions (maybe not as bad as her) and I’m not absolving her of it .. just that as a human we all make mistakes we don’t think twice about sometimes that can end up costing us a lot. Some people actually do go blind in love to kurbaan themselves forever only to they realize this isn’t what they wanted or are happy about


Sorry I replied so much to your post some which were my random thoughts lol

Edited by prs_725 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: msin

Hi Janaki

I actually find the actor playing virat quite well .. because men are generally clueless and selfish .. they don’t have an ounce of sensitivity in them ..

virat is not in love with sayi .. he’s over pakhi too .. but he is thinking of going to Ladakh to look for samrat ..

All the man Behal Jana .. crap that Kaku and adults are giving he us absorbing ..

And men are very slow also .. at that moment his mind is filled with samrat ko kaise find kare .. then his mom says 3 tkts . Then he says who .. oh sayi .. yes I can take her along .. what !!!why ??? she doesn’t want to go with me .. now the husband sleepily wakes up


He has expectations of husband with sayi .. though not so much .. right now sayi as a companion will do .. but he himself can shrug her off .. at work ..

if he had to go to Ladakh on a police work he would have gone without sayi .. it’s the same to him

Men can compartmentalise their feelings very neatly


It was the same for him in gharcholi .. he was not thinking about pakhi all the time .. he was focussed on catching jagtap


he has already married sayi .. she’s in his room .. making morning breakfast and going to college .. he has checked out Aniket .. and finds him tame in comparison to the firebrand sayi ...

So can merrily go for weeks to search for samrat who was at back burner in his mind

He has to lose sayi .. and lose her badly .. for him to start falling in love with her ..

he has married her , he is entitled to her .. he finds her desirable and she is his by law of the land .... but love need not be in the equation..

He enjoys her company and he finds her attractive.. Bassss


I am glad sayi has steeled her heart nicely .. she’s hurting but it’s good for her in the long run ..

She will be friendly with him but keep him at arms length.. which is necessary..


Yes she’s feeding him and taking care of him but after a month he will start demanding more .. his husband’s rights are active .. but duties are sadly not present ..

I found the car drive very telling .. virat mind had switched off and focusing on work things .. he was organising in his mind ..so all that sayi was saying he was enjoying in a Low key way .. he didn’t mind the traffic.. as it gave him more free time to plan in mind ..

Let us even say he is being insensitive. Atleast does he know that Pakhi is thinking of him as more than a friend - waiting for him, feeding him ...? No one can be THIS blind, surely.

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