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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AK_2010

The whole thing with Virat’s oscillation between Pakhi and Sai has nothing to do with feelings or love. It is clear that he feels for his deal biwi but I am not able to understand what exactly makes him swing towards his Pyaarosti

What exactly blinds him when it comes to Delusionalekha? Didi ka kya bolna ab... She is on sasta nasha of her 1.47 hr yoga love that keeps her high on her imaginary love.

To be honest, Virat annoys me to no end with his unrealistic expectations from Sai but remains blind towards hers. People might hate me for saying this but Virat is actually a milder or cloaked version of Ninad. He is a chauvinist 🤔 not only He goes crazy because Sai praised 'paraya' man who is a friend but he is immediately ready to fly Ladakh with a 'parayi' woman who is his friend jiski feelings ki sachai Sai ache se janti hai let's just ignore his bhashan about parivar ka saath and bullshit.

It pisses me off to see his behave so insensitively towards Sai and completely disregarding her feelings.... 💔

I totally agree. He owes her the same kind of emotional security that he wants from her. What is this one-way expectation?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I totally agree. He owes her the same kind of emotional security that he wants from her. What is this one-way expectation?

It is not just the battle of expectations Janki. I believe it is also the state of uncertainty that Sai is often left in. She is being prompted to feel the things she thinks Virat isn't capable of feeling for her and all these ideas mess up her idea of deal marriage. Sometimes its not just Virat she is reminding about the reality, Its herself.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Though I don't comment much, as Usual I enjoyed reading your analysis.

However, day by day it is becoming quite jarring looking at Virat's clueless-perfect-son-good-boy attitude.

Is he that dumb and clueless when it comes to Despohki or when it pertains to Mature stuff?

Is he that poor at reading people and understanding their intentions, particularly his respected Kaku and 2 day love?

He gave an impossible promise to that delusion woman and he surprisingly cannot put 2 and 2 together to make 4. Funny today Sai compared Pahki to her very young friend Pari back in Gadcharoli. I thought it was apt but when Virat pointed it out she corrected her statement. As far as I'm concerned, they cannot be compared a Pari is more mature.

I also heard IPS entry exams are really tough along with the training, so what's up with this guy? The creatives need to fix this nonsense.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Great post, Janki. Loved reading it.


The first part of the episode (the family drama part) was poorly executed. Almost all the family shouting sessions are not properly shot. You can see the standing arrangement of each character (if a character is looking the other way for a shot, he/she keeps standing in the same position until the end of the scene) -- they stand like statues, open their mouths to spew nonsense and then shut up. No movement at all.


Anyway, now coming to Virat: the actor's (Neil Bhatt) subtle nuances save the character and help us see Virat's point of view. In today's episode, the character looked lost and not sure of how to react to what everyone was saying. Plus I think the show relies too much on convenient omissions. State things for dramatic effect and forget about them. For today's scene, we might get a proper explanation when Virat has a one-to-one talk with Sai. But then I am not too hopeful after the alta-family-drama episode.


I wish they had shown a scene (or show one later) indicating that Kaku is trying to bring Virat and Pakhi closer with the intention to keep Sai away from the former. There has to be a reason why the character wants Virat and Pakhi to explore the surroundings together after the official work. The lines given to her do not reflect her orthodox mindset but indicates a sinister game plan.


Sai found a listener in the Professor. Aai, Shivani Bua, Usha Mausi (also Devyani Tai) are good people, but they do not understand the inner turmoil that she is going through. They turn deaf whenever she brings up the "deal" and her temporary stay in the family. For her, they are the facts of her current life, and by talking about it, she is reminding herself about the true nature of her relationship.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well,I don’t think makers are going to highlight Virats feelings towards Sai,until the separation track is completed,that’s when Virat will realize his feelings so we should not get our hopes high by seeing so many Sairat scenes because right now they are mainly to appease the viewers

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: AK_2010

It is not just the battle of expectations Janki. I believe it is also the state of uncertainty that Sai is often left in. She is being prompted to feel the things she thinks Virat isn't capable of feeling for her and all these ideas mess up her idea of deal marriage. Sometimes its not just Virat she is reminding about the reality, Its herself.


But that's why I said he owes her the emotional security that he wants from her and goes off like an atom bomb when he doesn't get it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

Virat ko IPS officer and Ninad ko ex army personnel dikhana anivarya tha?? What's the logic behind this? Virat ko GC mein Sai se milwana...koi aur story line ho sakti thi...It is ridiculous to show such dumbness in an IPS officer...kisi bacche ko bhi yeh dogali baaten samajh aa jayen..and ek successful IPS officer ko kuch samajh nahi aa raha?? Ya fir Virat is an extremely self centered person...jise kisi se koi farak hi nahi padta...Then GC meein jab Sai safehouse mein th and was talking about how Aaba was her puri duniya and she feels lonely without him..Virat nein sai ka apne Aaba se pyar ko apne and Pakhi ke 1.47 hous wale pyar se compare kiya???? Sai ka kisi random classmate/schoolmate ke baare mein baat karne per bhi he can misuse his position/power and jasoon ban jaata hai...I think Virat ka character can be summed up ki...jo ghar ka chaheeta beta hai and shaan hai...woh apni mom ko hi respect nahi dilwa sakta to uss bete ko kya kah sakte hain??? I am not finding any of his qualities appealing...thande dimag and soft spoken at totally wrong places...chhikhana chillana at wrong places...the only good thing he has done is Sai ka admission karwana...but that was the MAIN clause of the deal....yeh to Sai ka character hai that can manage in this state...hum mein se 99.99% could not have survived here....where is Virat's support for Sai except for her Med school...Alta jaisi choti cheez ke liye he was told ki Sai ko ghar chodna hoga....and as usual woh shant and soft spoken hi tha...But Sai ke upar dil and lungs khol kar chilla sakta hai....

also, ghar walon ke saamne Virat ki zuban per taale lag jaate hain...saari boli raat ko Sai ke saath hi nikalti hai uski....😂

I think Ashwani ko bolna chahye tha ki Virat and Sai ke saath Pakhi jaayegi....insted of Virat and Pakhi ke saath Sai bhi jaayegi...😂

Mujhe lagta hai Sai ka Pulkit se apni deal wali shaadi ke baare mein baat karna was for two reasons...ek to she was reassuring herself today ki yeh wakai hi deal wali shaadi hai...as Virat was quiet in this case of her coming along with Pakhi and him...Dusra this will be used later when Pulkit se Virat ki mulakat hogi...uss waqt this may become his reason for thinking that Sai ise deal hi rakhna chahti hai...the blame will be on Sai ki woh hi ise deal wai shaadi rakhan chahti thi and she has discussed it with Pulkit too...

Let's see ki Virat ke character ko kitna dumb dikha sakte hain CVs...Lagta hai competition hai C niwas mein ki kaun kitna neeche gir sakta hai..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning sisterhood!🌻🌺🌸

Please pardon any spelling errors or incoherent thoughts -- my head is still spinning from the ride on this Chakram niwas ki time machine -- July to November to February to November and back to February after being stranded in between in the books of accounts of excessive ration kharcha with Shri Ninad Chavan, where November and February met each other... but December-January kiske pyaar me ghum ho gaye? 🙄 I am guessing the connecting months took away the connecting dots of ACP Chavan saheb's mind as well...

What a drag of an episode and how disconnected from the moments that were supposed to be lived hours ago (we saw them in yesterday's episode)

So the question i asked yesterday has been answered --- What was the purpose of this namesake Samrat in the hospital track?

The answer: To show how emotionally vulnerable Virat feels about his Jeeva -- so much that he can take a complete U-turn within seconds from being love eyed and 'distracted' when he saw his 'wife' entering the scene to being ready to accompany 1.47 hours wale yoga love ke delusion mein ji rahi jilted lover to Ladakh to find her real husband 'jisse Woh jaanti tak nahi', without even sparing a thought about what the real deal wali wife would feel about his outing with his 'pyaarosti'.

Was Virat genuinely hypnotized to give slow reactions to what was happening around? Right from his surprise but silence to Mohit and Karishma's humiliation to Ninad's uncouth behaviour to Ashwini's suggestion of booking three tickets -- was it slow comprehension or Virat had lost his voice?

Honestly, he lacked conviction today --to stop the insults being meted out to his mother or Mohit or even waking up to the idea of Sai accompanying on the trip. In fact, even when Ashwini suggested three tickets, he wondered who else needed to come along! 😮 Anything that he says or does to convince Sai now will really not matter.

And what was that "Wo Baat mat boliye jisse log aapki Soch par swaal uthayen?" Or something... What did it even mean?

Ashwini's stern, "Main tumse keh rahi hoon aur tumhe jaana hi hoga" enough to get every guilty person in that room to feel offended about what she didn't say in words -- the malice and the indecent proposal that lay behind the "Samrat ko dhoondo" trip. Bhavani's genuine concern for Samrat left me confused -- was it an act?

I am glad Mohit spoke for himself but Ninad's choice of words for his nephew in the presence of the parents and the total silence from everyone and only a clenched jaw from the police wala was a disappointing scene. How do you berate someone to break any ounce of confidence they might be trying to hold on to to find their feet? Watch this scene. And why can't all of them to to Ladakh for a family outing to make the Susheel bahu feel better? Why does it have to be a 'shaadi ke baad wali Khushi Nahi Mili' wala 'nazaarein Dekh Kar aao' trip with the missing husband's cousin 🙄😳😣

If Samrat is really hiding in Ladakh, he will dig a deeper trench in the ice and hide himself 😣😐

Now, I don't have a problem with him wanting to go to Ladakh or even accompany his bade Bhai ki wife --- but well, he knows absolutely well that she's not the Vahini at all to him... Even so, we know Virat's intentions are pure but then one can't absolve him of the hypocrisy -- for a man whose insecurity overpowers his logic if Sai mentions another man or just fools around with one, his thought process ought to be wired to also address any possible insecurity his wife would thus feel. It should naturally occur to him as first instinct to look at Sai before making such an offer to his 'ex lover' that she's so aware of -- no matter how pure his intention. But no, not even for a fleeting second did he show any inclination of having thought about Sai or even gauging her reaction to his offer to his 'best friend'.

I, in fact, saw a kind of understanding half-smile Sai had on her face when Virat said Samrat is important to him. Perhaps, it was moment where Sai took consolation in the fact that there was a 'bigger' reason for him wanting to go than just have alone time with his 'best friend' -- his silence throughout the Chakram niwasis explaining the importance of making Patralekha experience the 'happiness in a marriage' by taking her for the outing was very loud for Sai to ignore.

But, I felt sorry for the girl who's trying to convince herself that she doesn't want to go on the tour. She would definitely choose to stay back rather than go with Didi in company but wouldn't she have wanted Virat to ask her? Of course...

"Yahan mere jaane ki baat Kisi ne Nahi ki..."

Of course that Kisi should have been Virat and not Ashwini. More than it being Ashwini's suggestion first, Sai would definitely feel let down by the fact that it didn't even strike Virat what his mother was saying until she offered the long explanation to Ninad's dull comment.

Virat only seemed affected by Sai's rejection of the offer and I don't get why! I mean, he didn't even have her on his mind all that while but suddenly, the moment she turns down Ashwini's suggestion, there is a look of indignation. Come on, husband Chavan, don't play that card as you please.

Does Sai not want to go along? I think she would have agreed if Virat would have made the first suggestion... She wanted to know what Virat was thinking. Her "Kya aap chahte Hain main Aapke Saath aaun" in the drive to the college was not meant to be funny as she made it out to be about 'best friends' knowing each other's mind. It was a question asked to gauge his feeling about wanting to go alone with his 'pyaar-dosti'.

I found his entire conduct towards Sai rather insensitive. He was so out of touch with her feeling at that moment -- he couldn't read what she was thinking or feeling at all. He didn't want to delve into her mind -- but she was sitting beside him, the morning after calling herself his 'biwi', spending some intimate moments of belonging with each other and back to square one with the feeling of being the 'teesra ticket'🥺

Virat looked enchanted for a brief moment when she spoke about love being an emotion to be expressed everyday... But the entire conversation about Valentine's Day -- oh, that radio suddenly talking in between felt like Bhavani's stooge from Chakram niwas Ka special space in outer space -- and the 'love' seemed rather bland to me... Because Sai was hiding behind the 'fun', a deep sense of being the foresaken one. And Virat could have made her feel better but "is baare me Raat ko baat karte hain".. as Sukri said yesterday, Virat does a very fine job with lying when he feels cornered or at loss to continue a logical argument. He needs that entire day to come up with something to convincingly answer the questions Sai has asked -- because her refusal to accompany them and the face off between Delusional Didi and her have got him thinking that he's just created a 'small mess' (Small?). Did he get the 'jasoosi+jasoos' connect?

Her 'jasoos' khitaab for Virat is perfect.. someone tell him that he's also bordering on becoming a sleazo detective with one sided expectation of 'devotion' in mind, body, soul, words, voice, phone, dance and even bye-byes. But since the space in the official Scorpio has been largely left uncontaminated by the fumes of the dum the chakrams spoke, he took the 'KJ' christening as a compliment in the end.

Sai gave him the cue to speak and clear the air but Virat was unprepared for it because he had realised that his lollypops were not going to be accepted. To me, it didn't come across as anything but Sai's attempt as usual to cover up her own dashed hope with a childish joke -- Pari ki padhai. She does it so often when she has to put on the 'I-don't-care' face. But behind it, there was hurt and she did dwell on it because she couldn't help it when she spoke about it to Pulkit.

For a moment, I thought Sai was revealing too much to the Professor she barely knows --- but well, if it's Valentine's Day, it must have been at least three months since first day of college in November? What a jarring inconsistency this is - such a shoddy job by the creatives. What kind of science or math does one need to know to establish the sense of time? So we are supposed to be oscillating from one month to the other without connecting the time we've spent on understanding Chavan Saheb's Kabhi Haan Kabhi na?🥴🥴

Coming back to Sai's sharing her mind with Pulkit... I found the scene such a natural emotion she must be feeling at that moment (very terrible presentation though, with that last shot coming out of no where just to forcibly end the episode). Doesn't it happen so many times when you're so overwhelmed with this feeling of hurt, pain and the burden of having to put up a smile and fight back the tears? And you want to dial that one person you can vent out to, cry with, speak to and feel better? Unfortunately, who does she have? I guess the need to speak about the 'temporary marriage' was such that she just spoke aloud to Pulkit -- the first person she met from her small circle of acquaintances she knew... It was more a reminder to herself that it was a temporary marriage and after long, also the fact that her 'husband' was in love with another woman. Wasn't it exactly how she felt that morning? 🥺

But it was also for the first time that she confessed it "won't be easy" to just leave once the time comes to end her stay in her 'husband's house'. Why should an 18-19 year old have to ride this emotional roller coaster ride with such a confused man -- now, he's not really confused about his emotion for her, we know. But why the confusing, almost contradictory actions to push her into her state of loneliness in her mind? There's no feeling more painful than feeling 'alone' despite having company. Why is it that everytime she gets an indication of Virat's feeling, either his thoughtless action or deliberate silence on an issue pushes her to believe his 'miscommunicated' feelings for the bade Bhai ki wife?

And today, he even looked genuinely hypnotised by delusional Didi. Was it that good acting or did Didi's eyes really look like the optical spiral illusion?

And, even before anyone spoke Didi was sure that Sai would 'taang adao' and not allow her to go on this real honeymoon with her imaginary husband 😒 but as usual, it was the imaginary saas playing party pooper! 🥳🥳 Didi's mind going, "Bappa, itni nirdayi imaginary saas Kisi ko na mile. Kya dushmani hai inki ki apni imaginary Bahu se? Kaunsi ladki mann hi mann mein Kisi parayi maa ko apni saas manti hai? Can't she see how her son's happiness lies in the imaginary marriage with me? This imaginary saas of mine doesn't value me at all? She doesn't trust me either."

And zabaan par Dil ki chori aa gayi, "Aap Sai ko mujhpar aur Virat par nazar rakhne ke liye bhej rahi hain?"

Lo! Naturally Sai wasn't going to leave that cue.

Ab Didi ki aisi bhi kya dushmani hai ki "samajhdaar aur mature" bulana bhi beizzati mein count ho gaya 🙄😳😂 The scene was choppily chopped. Didi's "Tumne Jo example Diya" dialogue did not have a context.

But chalo iss Sab ke beech a truth came out from the horse's mouth -- "Main Tumhari baat maan Kar laut aayi"... 😂

Didi don't realise what she talking. Just some days (ya months!?) ago, she said, "Parivaar ki parvaah" ke liye laut aayi. Ab Didi Ka gussa is understandable... She was supposed to have full rights in her imaginary husband and it does seem like the imaginary husband is also looking forward to this honeymoon so why are these people even talking about third ticket and jasoosi!? 😮

At the end of all this drama, they will end up cancelling this trip? So what's this drag about? 🥴🙄

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Time kya hua hai, behen log? My phone settings have gone awry travelling back and forth from Chakram niwas to the real-world... Main Kahan hoon aur yahan aur kaun kaun hai?

They say lost time is never found again but Chakram niwas mein there is potential to turn and twist the clock -- but will it also bring back the lost time? Can it call back the river that is flowing by?

Carpe Diem! Grab your cuppas ☕☕☕☕ or 🍵🍵🍵 and launch yourself at every wave coming towards you before it retreats back in time...

Hugs 🤗🤗🤗 , pyaar ❤️❤️❤️aur manapurvak aabhar 🙏🙏

Ladakh hum hi chale jaate Hain, beheno, chalo!

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Just wanted to know if this ladakh trip the same trip Nagpur se bahar ka kaam ka trip jiska hum logon ko segment dekhne ko mila tha???


And will virat sir manaofy Sai to accompany them???

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome analysis as usual Janki

Virat is really brainless or is he pretending to be one?... He behaves like an emotional fool nowadays?... He offered to accompany delusional didi to ladakh without thinking about the consequences... On one side is pp who keeps waiting for such opportunities and he's serving it on a silver platter.... On the other side sai thinks virat is still into pp.... Can we really blame her for that?... Virat's behavior will make even a normal wife think like that let alone a young girl for whom her marriage is just a deal... He should have discussed with sai before deciding anything.... I think he will get her tickets booked as well without consulting her...Ashwini should let the girl be... Why force her to go when she kept saying she cant take leave from college... She can't go around fullfilling everyone's wishes.... She has a life too.... If ashwini has a problem with the trip, she should make her raja beta understand instead of expecting sai to protect him from the 'witch'.... The episode was too much to take.... Virat toh was standing mooh mein dahi jamake when his brother and his wife were getting insulted by his so called family.... Why wont he speak up when its necessary?... The gadha and ghoda comparison was on a very bad taste🤢... Sonali and omkar doesn't care about their only son and bahu.


Karishma mohit banter was cute and funny.... I would take them anyday over didi and her sadi hui expressions.... Pulkit sai scenes are always refreshing.... Sai bared her heart in front of him.... So glad that she found a mentor and confidante in pulkit... Sai understands people very well... She quickly understood that pulkit was talking about his own heartbreak... Those chakrams are so evil to hate someone like her.... She's such an easy person to love.... Thoda sa pyaar and support and she couldn't stop praising ashwini.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepthi2014


Just wanted to know if this ladakh trip the same trip Nagpur se bahar ka kaam ka trip jiska hum logon ko segment dekhne ko mila tha???

Lagta to aisa hi hai 😆


And will virat sir manaofy Sai to accompany them???

No idea if he will. Tomorrow's episode might begin in some other time zone. It's so ghum 😆

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