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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


I am playing victim card because you have a different opinion? In this very debate there are 5 people debating and their opinions are not same as mine but I haven't said the same or in your words "Played victim card" with them and it's solely because they know that you are not supposed to mock people for having an opinion, it's only you who is doing this


Funny that you mentioning mocking, since your reply to someone else was "LMAO."

And you keep coming at people with "What more do you want?" "What else do you want?"

And how you keep telling everyone you're not a Maunal shipper and don't know why everyone thinks that - except that literally 2 days ago you wrote that Maunal was the ideal endgame for you.

If that isn't playing victim, being triggered at all times, and being clueless as to why someone is assuming you're a Maunal shipper, then I really don't know what is.

Like again, chill out.

Even yesterday, I never replied to you A.) Because I didn't care enough to and B.) Because your response seemed to be in a way validating what I had said and C.) I had already apologized to you if in some unintentional way I had said something which directly hurt you. That should have been clue enough to you that I really don't care to have a "healthy debate" with you.

But here you are again, in my direct reply to another member, assuming that my IF posts revolve around you 😕








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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


1 Bringing up topics from other posts is against the forum rules
2 Making remarks or moral policing is against forum rules
3 I am not saying that you are attacking me
4 Everyone here is debating the characters and you are the only one talking about "People on the forum" , do you get that? Looseseal, Mumoos, Indira, poiu123 are also a part of this debate but not a single one of them are talking about "People on the forum", we are discussing a tv show, not real people, it will be good if you restrict the debate to the show
5 I am not playing victim card because someone's opinion doesn't matches mine because there are 4 other people here who have a different opinion than me, but I am not saying this to them, am I?

6 If you think "LMAO" is rude then I am sorry

7 In that topic I also wrote "Pari supporters will support her", now you keep reading my posts and coming here to comment on them, what can I do when it's against forum rules... Again you are making personal remarks

Anyway let's end this here, as I said there are 4 other people involved in this debate, let's not ruin the environment for them...


"People on the Forum" is somehow different than saying "Mishti supporters" (something which you recently used) or other things I have seen like "Maunal shippers" "Mauhaan shippers" etc.

The hypocrisy is real. But got it. Noted.

And where's the moral policing? By me saying that I think EMA's are wrong and that the writers hopefully end the show on a good note/their moral compass shines - that made you feel like I am moral policing you? Really? Again, all I am gathering from this is my general statements happen to apply to you, so you're upset.

I.e. - Me saying that I hope the writers end on a good note/have a moral compass, as my expression of wanting the writers to acknowledge that EMA's are wrong - my general statement, you are somehow viewing as me moral policing you directly, because you happen to want a Maunal endgame (or don't, because that was two days ago and you're opinions change frequently - again something you said, not me, so don't call this a snide remark now).

Notice the recurrent theme here. It's not my comments here, it is your perception of them being directed at you.

Anyways, I'm done. And I am sorry if I unintentionally hurt your feelings. Not sorry for my posts or what I have said, because that is my POV and if it happens to apply to you, I don't know how that is my fault. But as far as it hurting your feelings, I do apologize for that part.

Edited by ritzbitz786 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Please first understand what I am talking about, I am not saying that Mauli should marry Kunal, I am saying that she is happily marrying Ishaan now and she is going to have a happy life with him. Now that Mauli is happy in her life I feel Kunal also deserves to be happy with Pari, what more do you want him to do? Cheating was wrong but he has apologized and even done things which has resulted in Mauli moving on with Ishaan, his work is done, no? Aur kya kare wo?

You can't force the victim to forgive but think about this situation in real life, so you are saying that Kunal should spend rest of his life to apologize for cheating on her? He has his own life, you know?
Cheating was wrong, but it's not as grave mistake as rape or death that people are going to ruin their life making up for it...



Its doesnt matter if you are a MouNal fan or not. I am replying to your comments. I have never referred to you as one.

And I litterally wrote, on this very post as reply to comment, that Kunal also deserves to move on. With someone he hasnt cheated on. And i have also already mentioned that its not about Kunals apology. It is about Moulis forgiveness and more importantly love. (Page 5 of this post)

So, stop making it sound like as if we (whoever that might be) are not lettibg Kunal even live. Noone is asking Kuna to even apologise. He said some words of regret after confrontation only to be a total jerk after that. And now he is fine. He moved on, is happy in life with his daughter. Good. But the narrative that Kunal has suffered enough for his action is not true. He suffered in life but he never faced consequences of his actions. But thats the opposite of what many (I assume most) viewers want. We dont want him to suffer in life and we want him to regret his EMA. He needed to face consequenced of his action. There is a difference there. Its too late to show the consesquences now tho. the best the makers can do is make them go seperate ways. And I have maintained this pov in every post. I dont know if I am not being clear but this has been point and I have done my best to explain it.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: looseseal



Its doesnt matter if you are a MouNal fan or not. I am replying to your comments. I have never referred to you as one.

And I litterally wrote, on this very post as reply to comment, that Kunal also deserves to move on. With someone he hasnt cheated on. And i have also already mentioned that its not about Kunals apology. It is about Moulis forgiveness and more importantly love. (Page 5 of this post)

So, stop making it sound like as if we (whoever that might be) are not lettibg Kunal even live. Noone is asking Kuna to even apologise. He said some words of regret after confrontation only to be a total jerk after that. And now he is fine. He moved on, is happy in life with his daughter. Good. But the narrative that Kunal has suffered enough for his action is not true. He suffered in life but he never faced consequences of his actions. But thats the opposite of what many (I assume most) viewers want. We dont want him to suffer in life and we want him to regret his EMA. He needed to face consequenced of his action. There is a difference there. Its too late to show the consesquences now tho. the best the makers can do is make them go seperate ways. And I have maintained this pov in every post. I dont know if I am not being clear but this has been point and I have done my best to explain it.


Hey Looseseal, this is in direct response to your post and nothing that preceded it. But you brought up some really good points, as always.

Thus far the things that have happened to Kunal are:

1.) He lost his family - direct consequence of his EMA, but he chose this. Meaning Dida told him to work it out, but he chose to leave them and still be with Nandini knowing full well if he stepped out of the house, they would not accept him back. So I wouldn't necessarily see this as a consequence, rather a choice.

2.) Nandini died/he became a single father - This is unfortunate and sad, yes. But it wasn't a direct consequence of the EMA, i.e. Nandini didn't get cancer as a direct result of the EMA.

3.) Pari got kidnapped/he got shot which led to amnesia - This had more to do with him hiding that Mishti-Pari were sisters, Mishti unintentionally breaking the news to Pari, Pramilla not watching over Pari carefully enough, Sandhya and Sweety telling a 4 year old such things and not making sure she left with an adult, and Pari herself making the choice to roam the streets without a chaperone. Again, not a direct consequence or form of "punishment" for the EMA.


Is luck tough on him? Absolutely. Am I sympathetic towards him? Of course. But does this absolve him of his sin. No, it doesn't.

Like you said, he apologized to Mauli for a couple of episodes for hurting her, but not for the EMA/falling in love with Nandini etc. (his emotions and actions). But then he accused her of kidnapping Nandini, questioned her pregnancy, etc. so those apologies went down the drain.

Then he apologized during the Camp Track, but Mauli was passed out drunk. And even then he maintained "Tum apni jagah sahi thi, mein apni jagah sahi tha." Again, not owning up to the wrong that he did. He is basically holding the stance that hurting Mauli's feeling was wrong/it wasn't his intention to break her, but the EMA was not wrong since it led him to the real love of his love.

The only thing he should do at this point is actually regret it, which is why the amnesia track makes sense. So he can start from the beginning and realize the path he went down - which will, I think, lead to his formation of regret/remorse, which so far has been absent completely from the show.

And once he regrets it, it is up to Mauli to forgive him and think about if she really wants that life of 6 years ago back again, or if it will be an illusion and it can never be the same. Or she thought she wanted it back (it would be the easier choice for her) but now she realizes everything happens for a reason and she loves Ishaan now.

And who knows, maybe Kunal himself will not want to be with Mauli again, even after regret/remorse. Maybe he will feel like he is not worthy of her/will be disgusted with himself, or maybe he will still maintain at the end that he is really sorry and regrets the EMA and wishes it never happened, but because it did and he was married to Nandini for 4/6 years, he did truly love her and she is the love of his life whether alive or dead.

Edited by ritzbitz786 - 6 years ago
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