What is love? Let's discuss shall we?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Despite the botched job by the writers I think this show raises a lot of pertinent questions on love, relationship, marriage, trust & loyalty. Is too much of trust also a bad thing? Should we necessarily choose loyalty over love? What causes relationships to click or fail? Is the sanctity of marriage inviolate. And above all WHAT IS LOVE?

From the outset this show made me ponder over this question. What is the definition of love? How do u know if you truly love someone & how to know someone truly loves you. And this emphasis on the adjective TRUE. I mean y do we say true love, surely there cant be something called FALSE LOVE can it? Either you love or you dont? Love is not a boolean with TRUE or FALSE qualifier can it?

I ve never understood love. For eg take this fictional show. I even re-watched the initial episodes & what I saw in Kunal's eyes was love mixed with desire. Even if we consider that instead of this Maggi Instant Noodles wala divine love the CVs had shown a slow progression of feelings between K & N, is that still really realistic. Does that mean that what we saw in Kunal's eyes was not actually love. Which again brings us back to the rhetorical question THEN WHAT IS LOVE? We know there are different forms of love. Love of a mother, Love of a father, Love of siblings, Love of friends but in the context of this show lets discuss only about the most obvious one, the love between a man & a woman. What makes 2 people bond & fall in love. I dont agree when people say that looks dont matter. At some level it definitely matters. For the 1st time its the looks that draw us towards a person. I mean how do u know a person's character in the 1st meeting. So the 1st thing which draws us towards that person is the look. Now this need not necessarily be beauty in the conventional sense. For eg some women might be drawn towards tall, lean men. Some men may be drawn towards curvy women with a captivating smile. But somewhere appearance is definitely present in the equation. Of course from here its a logical progression from just outward looks to more non-superficial things like shared tastes, defining qualities, sense of humor, strength in character etc. But there is no denying that every guy or gal has a type. Here if we go by this logic can we assume that Kunal's type is curvy, demure, traditional looking woman? Nandini definitely ticks all these boxes.

So from attraction we move to the next phase which is bonding & then the slow process of falling in love. Is there a timeline? Every1 here including me had a problem with this instalove between K & N. We thought at that time its so unrealistic. But is the process of falling in love time bound. If so what is it? 1 month, 1 year, 10 years? Mine was an arranged marriage. I can be candid & say that what we had initially was not even care & affection. There were lots of MUs because of his mom & we were literally at each others' throats. Forget about love we literally hated each other. But now after 14 years if I realistically assess our relationship I can safely say that yes definitely we love each other. But if you ask when or how did I finally fall in love I cant answer that. I really dont know. Somewhere in all this routine life, hectic career, pregnancy, death of loved ones (my dad), children we did end up falling in love. It's strange because there was no special wooing phase from either of us. So how did this happen & how come I dint even realize it? But we can find glimpses of this love in little, trivial things. He doesnt give me any bday or anniversary gifts but when I am angry or sad he orders my fav food. When I ve cramps during periods he makes Lemon Juice for me because I dont eat anything at tat time. I am not the traditional, caring wife but every day when I cook I ensure that the menu has at least 1 item that he likes. Sometimes in sleep without realizing we end up holding each others' hands. Are we too dull & boring? I saw lots of phrases being thrown around in this forum. People said Kunal loved Mauli but was NOT IN LOVE with her. I honestly still dont understand this nuance in the context of a man-woman love. Does this mean my hubby & I love each other but we are NOT IN LOVE with each other? WOW that's a googly 😆

May be we are just over thinking. May be love is not as long lasting or permanent as portrayed in fiction. Again if i take my eg we literally hated each other but then fell in love unknowingly. But still when we fight we hurt each other. If we love each other then y do we hurt each other. Even now there r a few fleeting moments when I actually hate him & he hates me. But then again we find love.

So may be love is not this all powerful, strong, uniform feeling. May be it ebbs & flows. May be there are troughs & plateaus. In real life may be all our relationships follow this pattern. There are highs but there are lows as well. However most of us have a strong sense of morality & righteousness. We know that we dont love our partner but our moral compass is tuned in such a way that we either fight for our relationship or wait for the rough patch to straighten out. Who knows may be if dont live in a civil society which demands a code of conduct from us, we may not have the will to fight for our relationship when it hits a plateau. Or may be its more of circumstances. Yes at this point we have fallen out of love but we do not have an alternative. Here Kunal saw an alternative in Nandini. May be it was a case of the right person being at the right place at the right time. Just when Mauli-Kunal's relationship hit a plateau there was Nandini to draw Kunal's attention. In most of our cases in real life we would not have that scenario. So we merely grit it out consoling ourselves that This shall also pass. And pass it does. The ship rides the wave, manages to stay afloat & the bond between the couple actually strengthens like in my case.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Rather than talking about hate, betrayal etc why not talk about love for a change 😳

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Posted: 6 years ago
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First of all, brilliant post! Also, I'm new to this forum, so a big hello to everyone here :))

Your questions regarding the mystery that is love is entirely on-point. How many of us would like a clean-cut answer to that lol!

But coming to this show, you mentioned something about Kunal-Mauli's relationship plateauing and that's when he saw an attractive alternative in Nandini. If that were the case, I'd have been more lenient toward their relationship. The reason I don't buy that dynamic is because Kunal-Mauli were fine, they had minor problems but still loved each other UNTIL out-of-the-blue, Kunal was attracted to Nandini.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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First n foremost, sooo good to see ur post..

I always feel love is mixture of friendship, sharing, bonding, respect, understanding n all these comes after spending quality time with each other.

Love at first sight concept is something I don't understand...

All marriages has ups n downs.. it's upto an individual how they handle it..

Here Mauli Kunal relation was nearly perfect.. just little flaw of Mauli (busy) n this man falls for first available woman.. this relation has no friendship, understanding (comes after knowing each other), or bonding...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Since we are on a silsila platform..
I wanna discuss the love from what i saw here..
I used to feel , the kind of understanding ,companionship and mutual respect. Kunal n mauli had could have been termed love. I could relate to it, the vibe they shared,how they understood and supported each other.
Accepting each other with the flaws, like how mauli understood kunal's career goal and his kiddish tantrums some times.
The way kunal respected the fact mauli is a succesful doctor and time is always a constraint. Your partner should be one person whom your not afraid to be yourself around.
Basically that acceptance of who you are from your partner, with all the good and bad things.

NOW THE WAY STORY IS I AM A BIT CONFUSED AS TO,IF IT CAN HAPPEN THIS WAY IN REAL LIFE TOO.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Romantic love makes you feel like you can fly. It makes you feel alive. You cant get enough of the person. Everything about them generates a respose from you. You cant wait to be alone with them. There is a very passionate, intense sexual lust that while fades never truly goes away.
I have only been in love once in my life. Its with my present partner. Prior to this i had a very wonderful relationship and i loved him very much. Yet now i see it was infatuation and friendship.
Now i feel at ease, at home.

So i would say these things are componets of my love. My prayer for his happiness., my willingness to leave him if he is not happy with me and my respect for this relationship that i never thought i would ever have are all part of love.
There were many grave things that happened to me prior to this relationship. Now i feel strong. As strong as any person. I feel i have survived the worst and God reached in and pulled me out and said you, iI will bring you something you have earned.
Last, God is love. When you desecrate love and cheapen it you offend the lord
Edited by kiransgirl - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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You know I read somewhere that Love makes you start a relationship but stubbornness to be in it is what keeps that relationship going. Love is real. I have seen my parents my uncle and aunts have a loving relationship. My parents had a love marriage and after 23 years of marriage if anyone looks closely they will see love and warmth in between them. But their love is not even close to what we see in the movies. I mean I have never seen my father eat a dish all by himself which tasted yuck just for the sake of my mother. They show things like these always in the reel world. So that does not mean the love between my parents is any more or less than that on TV. Yes, in reel world love is always attached to passion and it glorifies every moment of it. In real world it's not so much about passion as it is about comfort. It's not so much about being sexy to your significant other as it is about connecting with each other. And after an amount of time you just get comfortable with that one person around you. Not always do you have to kiss that person goodnight, sometimes even a sweet smile tells the other person that everything is perfect.
What circumstances they are showing in the show almost never happens in real life.
So concept as told by many people in the past is completely unreal. Because even if due to one reason or the other everything that happened in the show actually happens. One thing is impossible. No-one I repeat no one will ever ever in their life cheat on their best friend. Thats like completely destroying the sis-code. (Nd if he/she does cheat, change your bff asap).

So I'll just tell you to not to think too much while watching the show coz its foundation is completely baseless. Love exists. But more importantly loyalty trust and respect exist, love just buds from all these.

And as everyone says that kunal never was in love with mauli should watch the flashbacks. They will know he was completely in love with her. As for respect, I don't think he ever did respect her. Not does he respects her now as his mother thinks. A man who loves you can leave you but, The man who respects you will always stand by you and cherish you.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Portrayal of love in TV shows and movies have always been unrealistic. They romanticize everything unnecessarily and nauseatingly. But since the actors are goodlooking and hot, we watch it. In the real world, I don't really believe in any definitions and even if there are, I think it's different for everybody . Personally to me, it is a bond that grows with time and becomes your strength. It is a lot of hard work and will only survive if both the partners contribute actively.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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As usual i pressed like before reading lol ..but now i have read.it . Brilliant post ..

Angels (i love this name ) , the problem is not with our understanding but the romanticized love shown in tv and movies . Ita far from reality . The truth is , love comes with an expiry date . When it hits us , we are flying , we feel that this feeling will never change, whereas this isnt true . I have experienced this . Everything in this world changes ..one thing that is constant is change... Of course we dont start hating our partners with time ..we settle down with the best we have and stop complaining about the flip side. This is imo what is called true love . It sustains due to many factors. Dependency , respect , understanding , maturity and many more . Basically we fall in love with love..like when someone loves us , its an overwhelming feeling . ..Like nandu was on cloud 9..you did something for your hubby, he reciprocated , and you did the same..


The other day on fm , the rj said what do girls look for in boys for a date ? Good looks , humour , money etc ..and what do boys look? Jo ladki haan karde bas wohi chalegi ..lol..so thats the reality with both boys and girls..



There is a problem with the storytelling by cvs. They showed mauli and kunal to be this perfect couple but no couple is perfect ..they didnt show any issues , this is what we saw in the story . But in reality every couple has some or the other issues . Not all lead to adultery...Now that depends on many things. A man may choose to have a flinge without disturbing his family life , he may cheat his wife and the other woman by hiding his marital status . Or he may choose to end the marriage ..


Yes kunal had a choice and he alone is responsible for this ema not mauli . He got attracted to the others womans beauty saarees cooking (why do we deny? His friends think so and its obvious..mauli also said so) ..did he love mauli or he was in love with mauli? He chose to cheat her , hurt her , destroy her . How was he in love with her ? Love alone is not.sufficient to sustain a relationship ..i dont see any love between nandu and kunal also ..its pure attraction , desire , both want something from the other .


Bottomline . Dont try to understand love through silsila..he he
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Posted: 6 years ago
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What is really interesting to me is how on this thread itself each person looks at LOVE from a unique perspective. Each person has her own definition of love. Love is the only emotion which has such varied interpretations. Other emotions like joy, sorrow, anger, hatred etc are straightforward while only love invokes such varied reactions & expressions.

Let me quote a personal experience. When I initially got married I was so confused if my hubby loves me or not. My sister is an exact carbon copy of my husband. So once when I was really low I asked her. Both of u r the same so tell me if you really love someone how do you express that. In what way does it manifest. Her answer was simple, no matter what they do I will justify it & never find it wrong. I will defend tat person & his/her actions even if its indefensible. BHAM my heart broke. Now I knew. My husband loved his mom & now his actions made sense to me. So each person has a unique way of expressing their love. For me my pride & self-respect is something I can never compromise. But for the ones I love I can let go that. I realized this when my kid was born. Due to circumstances my hubby was at onsite & my parents couldnt come & stay with me. So I had to live in a joint family with my in-laws & it was hell. But for the sake of my kid I swallowed my dignity, grit my teeth & tolerated it. I would ve never done that for any one else.

So in a way Mauli makes sense to me. Though we are angry at why she is still in that house & putting up with these loonies somewhere in the corner of her heart Kunal is still there, she still loves him & I think there is this faint hope or may be wishful thinking that he may come back to her. Yes the strong, independent Mauli hates this & hence she hastily filed for divorce before she could change her mind. But somewhere she has still not let gone Kunal & as a woman, a wife I understand her!
Edited by Angels11 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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A very famous quote I see often on FB is 'Difference between like and love is, if you like a flower you want to pluck it, but if you love a flower you want to water the plant and take care of it. So for me Love stems from selflessness.
I have no issue with Kunan falling for each other for whatever reason they deem to be fit but my only issue started when they decided to cheat on Mauli who selflessly did the deed and had to pay a hefty price for it. This story without the drama for TRP could have been dealt with dignity by showing how they tried to control their feelings and but in vain they couldn't anymore and Kunal as a responsible person could have explained Mauli what has happened. I don't want even Nandhini to explain this to Mauli but Kunal should have done that. Instead once they thought of doing it behind her back made it look like lust and nothing much. If he had fallen in love with Nandhini why to remain in relationship with Mauli. Love is always pure and also what these two shared could have been accepted as love if they hadn't thought of cheating and could have come out open and honest in the society.

Mauli with her level of maturity would have definitely understood them, maybe later but for sure. Staying in a loveless marriage is not even what she desires.

But just to glorify an affair they had to present this storyline and simply labelling it as divine love.
Edited by Swan.122012 - 6 years ago

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