Apology and the sense of wrong doing

I know and I agree to the fact that Naina feels betrayed in love by Sameer bcoz of the bet...she is shattered in and out at heart and bcoz of this she is not able to forgive him and herself... she feels that he did everything just for his bet and maybe now also whatever he is doing is for bet only

Dear Manisha!

I feel that you are thinking from Sameer's point of view!! For a 16 year old girl who belongs to 90's, its difficult to trust again after such a betrayal!! She is mad at herself for trusting him and she feels that he just wants her forgiveness at any cost!! She feels that Sameer who can go to any extreme to make her confess the love just to win the bet, can do anything to achieve what he wants to!! Even before the love confession her father used to slap him and then he used to touch his feet!! so she thinks this is all drama!! Sameer has to face her hatred & prove his love and thats the only way to win his love!!

Originally posted by: kb_always_96

I feel that you are thinking from Sameer's point of view!! For a 16 year old girl who belongs to 90's, its difficult to trust again after such a betrayal!! She is mad at herself for trusting him and she feels that he just wants her forgiveness at any cost!! She feels that Sameer who can go to any extreme to make her confess the love just to win the bet, can do anything to achieve what he wants to!! Even before the love confession her father used to slap him and then he used to touch his feet!! so she thinks this is all drama!! Sameer has to face her hatred & prove his love and thats the only way to win his love!!

I think you seriously have to watch the show again. You have interpreted all in a difference sense.

1) As of now what all Sameer is doing is not for the bet & Naina knows it too. She herself admitted to him that all this sorry business is 'cuz he wants to get off from his guilt. As he later realized that the bet was a childish act

2) The reason the bet started was not only to avenge Rakesh, but to avenge Naina too. By the time the Mt Abu incident had happened, Sameer already had had a change of heart & though he admitted later that he was not keen on fulfilling the bet anymore. Hence he did not let Naina tell anything.

3) Some one being from a rich family does not mean that they cannot face slaps & beatings. Anyways here that is not the case. "Everyone" do not know that it was NOT Sameer who pushed Arjun, its only Munna & Pandit who know. Everyone else assumes that as Arjun fell down Sameer would have pushed him. Yes, that indeed is a fact that noone bothered to question Arjun as to how the incident happened. Why were they fighting & all.

4) Coming back to what I mentioned in point 1, Sameer has the guilt, also he loves Naina & thats why he's bearing all torture. BUT Naina has seen the cheap side of Sameer (The bet incident) so now she feels he's doing all this just to SHOW her that he's repenting. She is suffering from the pain, & wants him to suffer the same.

Naina does realise that her father bashing some one is not right, so does Anand as well, but even, he does not say a word to Rakesh. 'Cuz thats what they are trying to show in the show, that youngsters did not question what their elders did, it was considered as disrespecting them (Which is not how it is now a days). They have showed that in many incidents earlier, eg: when Bela was fixing her daughter's alliance in the temple & had not informed Taya & Tayiji, what offence they had taken? In today's scenario we can say that whats wrong? Whatever Bela did was for her daughter why should anyone else poke their nose? But its now how it worked then.

Naina is a 16 yr old girl. How much level of maturity do you expect out of her? She's behaving as how a 16 yr old would behave in such a situation.
When Sameer was hurt, he seeked revenge by taking the bet. Now when Naina is hurt, she's seeking revenge by letting him being tortured. She's not bothered to know that he's actually repenting or not. Thats how teens behave.

Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

Dear Manisha!

You have put forward the questions very aptly.I am not standing for Naina or for Sameer since he himself has said that 'they are one'.

The suffering she is undergoing is actually at 'mental' level in real life.Some people withdraw,some just try taking makeovers...in short they resign from the lively,lovely world.

Since this is a show they can't show the inner turmoils of Naina and Sameer only in their respective rooms.So to get them together in one frame,all drama has been conjured.

Somewhere I realised somethings forced but still way better than OTTs. of other soaps.She knows he is flame and she candle.But she is trying to act like steel.She has shut herself off and all her reasoning has gone down the drain.This tangled yarn of her mind,heart and life in whole has even cost her performance in exam...She was no more a topper at end.

And Sameer is trying to make up fr his mistakes..he knows the magnanimity of the pain he has inflicted upon her.So the bashings upon him are somehow equalling the pain of her heart.I personally feel both are at same level...at receiving ends.

Sorry for randomness in thoughts.😳

Hi

Originally posted by: Kkadss

I think you seriously have to watch the show again. You have interpreted all in a difference sense.

i'm really sorry to say that you are asking to see the show again who has been a regular viewer of the show...much before many others😊

Probably you didn't get what i wanted to point out in my post...😔 I don't really understand that if someone genuinely tries to bring up a point of discussion...that person is made to believe as if that person doesn't know anything about the show...its not so dear...😊

1) As of now what all Sameer is doing is not for the bet & Naina knows it too. She herself admitted to him that all this sorry business is 'cuz he wants to get off from his guilt. As he later realized that the bet was a childish act

Thats right😊

2) The reason the bet started was not only to avenge Rakesh, but to avenge Naina too. By the time the Mt Abu incident had happened, Sameer already had had a change of heart & though he admitted later that he was not keen on fulfilling the bet anymore. Hence he did not let Naina tell anything.

Please see the episode where the bet starts...he clearly says that usne meri parvarish pe sawaal uthaya tha...ab main uski parvarish pe sawaal uthaaunga jab uski khud ki beti naina mujhe sabke saamne ILU bolegi😳

Also the bet boys said the same...that tumhare pita Rakesh Aggarwal se badla lene ke liye...isnt it😊

3) Some one being from a rich family does not mean that they cannot face slaps & beatings. Anyways here that is not the case. "Everyone" do not know that it was NOT Sameer who pushed Arjun, its only Munna & Pandit who know. Everyone else assumes that as Arjun fell down Sameer would have pushed him. Yes, that indeed is a fact that noone bothered to question Arjun as to how the incident happened. Why were they fighting & all.

When did i say this... please dont misquote my words... i just said that he belonging to a rich family never needed to do anything what he is doing unless he is really feeling sorry at heart... and see the fight again...she saw arjun strangulating him

4) Coming back to what I mentioned in point 1, Sameer has the guilt, also he loves Naina & thats why he's bearing all torture. BUT Naina has seen the cheap side of Sameer (The bet incident) so now she feels he's doing all this just to SHOW her that he's repenting. She is suffering from the pain, & wants him to suffer the same.

Thats what im trying to say...that he is repenting...and thats pretty clear😊

Letting him suffer the same pain...i know thats wat she is trying to do😳

Naina does realise that her father bashing some one is not right, so does Anand as well, but even, he does not say a word to Rakesh. 'Cuz thats what they are trying to show in the show, that youngsters did not question what their elders did, it was considered as disrespecting them (Which is not how it is now a days). They have showed that in many incidents earlier, eg: when Bela was fixing her daughter's alliance in the temple & had not informed Taya & Tayiji, what offence they had taken? In today's scenario we can say that whats wrong? Whatever Bela did was for her daughter why should anyone else poke their nose? But its now how it worked then.

Naina is a 16 yr old girl. How much level of maturity do you expect out of her? She's behaving as how a 16 yr old would behave in such a situation.
When Sameer was hurt, he seeked revenge by taking the bet. Now when Naina is hurt, she's seeking revenge by letting him being tortured. She's not bothered to know that he's actually repenting or not. Thats how teens behave.

letting him suffer Giving him pain backprobably

maturity of thoughts needs to be there...thankfully he has Nanu with him...maybe thats the reason he is so mature while she has no one to teach her maturity...not even Chachaji

Originally posted by: truptishree

Hi

This is Trupti and I am first time commenting on your post. I somewhat agree with you.

I will post my reply which I wrote in Meher's post.

Hi Trupti...i'm Manisha😊

Whatever I will post here it's my opinion please don't feel bad.

See there is no hate for Naina. It's the way she is behaving now.

I know she is hurt,betrayed by Sameer because he made the bet and broke her heart and trust.

Being a girl myself i am completely with her but in her anger and bitterness towards Sameer she is completely ignoring the fact that this whole thing started with paper stealing.

I would say probably she isn't able to relate the bet to the paper staeling incident still... in her flow of emotions probably she is not able to figure it out😳

Not just him but his Nanu,mother all got humiliated in front of whole school. On top of that he got the label of theif. His own mother disowned him. She herself said she will never come back not even on his birthday. Now you put yourself in his shoes and decide. I remember in his birthday episode his mother didn't even called to wish him. He is still kid right? We say mother is forgiving but his mother believed what was in front of her ,what Naina said about the key. If you look at his situation he lost everything,his dignity,his mother.

He lost everything and he got Naina's love...he got everything according to him when he was with her😃

What Naina lost? Nothing.

Then he made that bet to humiliate her and her father in front of whole school. But tell me has he done that? No. In fact he had a perfect opportunity in MT.Abu to do that when he was in her room but he didn't. He was feeling so guilty for doing this to her. We saw that. He wanted to tell her the truth but everything went wrong and Naina got affected by it.

She also had the perfect opportunity to tell him about the paper stealing when they were talking in night but she didn't. See I am not bashing Naina here it just look at this kid now he is repenting for the mistake he haven't done that is paper stealing. Whatever is happening now because of that one thing for that Naina her brother Arjun is equally responsible.

They both don't realise that they did anything wrong...thats what i tried to bring out in my post...that realising your fault is the first step towards rectifying things...which he has...but they dont

And I know Sameer is also wrong for bet and deceiving her but look at him at least he is trying to rectify his mistake,make her happy and don't want her to live with the pain he has given her.

Then what about her? Will she accept in front of him about her brother?

What if Sameer also does the same thing to her which she is doing now? Not to forgive her for deceiving him. If you look at the situation Sameer is at more loss than Naina. She just got her heart broken I know I am sounding very harsh but what about him? He lost everything. His own mother refused to recognise him in Mt. Abu.

I just feel that Naina should give him another chance to explain himself about the bet. She didn't even asked him why he made that bet. I think it's high time that paper stealing truth should be out and it should clear Sameer's name and all the misunderstandings.

Sorry for the long post and please don't feel bad.

P.S. I love both of them. I really enjoyed her taunts in previous episode.

Yes he should also realise the pain he has given her but I just want her to introspect her actions before jumping to any conclusion.

I do feel if he is wrong then she is also wrong. Both have made mistakes but one is repenting and I want other person also to repent for what she did.

By the way nice points.

Thanks dear...even i feel that both have done mistakes and on one end he is trying to rectify things while she is not... she doesn't realise what mistake she has made...hope this realisation comes to her and things settle...otherwise ... i have to stop watching this show also

Why would i feel bad dear... its just an open forum meant for a healthy discussion and i like to do such discussions😃

Apologies on you being offended. That was not the intention. I was also trying to express my POV
Its a matter of difference of opinion. I still donot agree with what you have mentioned, but dont want to extend it further, for my intentions being misinterpreted again. I rest my case.

Originally posted by: braveheartdoc