Suvarna's glorification - are the CVs doing it or we see it that way

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janvi0513

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Posted: 7 years ago

After yesterday's episode first I felt that the creatives are trying to glorify Suvarna's sacrifice a lot, but then something just made me think are they actually doing that or is it the way we are looking at things.

I slowly thought about the past tracks, in most of the tracks where their have been two sides. Kaira have stood at opposite ends. Till date I had always though that this drama was for trp sake, but then if you look at the last Kaira separation, the weeks which Kaira were separated had a little lower trp then the week Karthik understood his part of the fault and started working on it making it up Naira, which was followed by her birthday, so that proves that trp audience like Kaira supporting one another more, so then what has been the reason that the creatives at many instances have caused a clash of perceptives between Kaira.

That bought me to view points. When a fiction Indian TV serial is shown, it is mainly through the eyes of both the leads, female lead only or in rare case male lead only. Here the story has been equally shown through both, along with that Shivangi and Mohsin are both equally amazing performers. So keeping Kaira on different ends always has given a much clearer view on both sides of the coin.

This time the situation is as such that both Kaira are on one side. So automatically that side becomes heavier. You get that feeling that only one side of the story is being shown. Yes I do agree that Suvarna's so called sacrifice is being glorified to an extent, but we are seeing that glorification even more because it is being done by Kaira. Go to see even Shubham has been given a lot of big dialogues, like she didn't sacrifice but she sacrificed me, Devki Yashoda ke pair ki dhul bhi nahi hai and much more like that. If they showed Kaira doing the play, then they also showed Shubham disrupting the play. Even when the family got to know the truth, Manish and Dadi spoke against the matter. Even Surekha spoke about how hurt she was that her Suvarna didi hid something from her. So if there are words in her support, there are also words against her, but the fact that those supporting words come from Kaira increase the weight of those words a 100 folds. In terms of acting also Shivin are stronger then Gaurav, they leave a bigger impression which again make Kaira Suvarna side stronger.

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Posted: 7 years ago

In my opinion CVs used Kaira for glorification of imaginary tyag. Now disliking the word tyag itself. They definitely did it for trps but maybe this situation can have reverse effect on trps. Didn't expect anything other than Karthik accepting Suwarna as mother after knowing about her sacrifice. This situation is being used several times and conveniently used here too. Momo's powerful acting does make that scene impactful but Suwarna character's complete indifference towards Shubam is making me dislike her even more than before. As Kaira are leads therefore they could use them only for conveying their disastrous message of tyag, can't blame Kaira here.

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Miss-Behave

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue
In my opinion CVs used Kaira for glorification of imaginary tyag. Now disliking the word tyag itself. They definitely did it for trps but maybe this situation can have reverse effect on trps. Didn't expect anything other than Karthik accepting Suwarna as mother after knowing about her sacrifice. This situation is being used several times and conveniently used here too. Momo's powerful acting does make that scene impactful but Suwarna character's complete indifference towards Shubam is making me dislike her even more than before. As Kaira are leads therefore they could use them only for conveying their disastrous message of tyag, can't blame Kaira here.

The writers in my eyes made kaira look awful in this track. Swarna... I have no words for. I can't seem to want to care about her character. I can still understand kaira that they want to patch mother and son up so he doesn't make the mistake they did, but what they are failing to recognise is that aryan's situation is different from theirs. They misunderstood that they were wronged by their parent, whereas aryan had no misunderstanding and was actually ditched at birth by his mother.

And to top it off, I disliked naira being rude to aryan when she was adamant in celebrating swarna-manish wedding anniversary and told aryan bluntly that if he doesn't like it, he can just stand in one corner quietly or not come. She rubbed me the wrong way in that scene, and kaira in general I could not connect to in this track. Swarna, like you said, has not even bothered to have a heartfelt convo with aryan and deeply apologise saying what she did to him was wrong and she realises it. Instead she's crying in front of the family for them to understand that she made a big sacrifice for karthik and manish. Cry me a bucket woman. After this track, I no longer care to see swarna's scenes. After this fiasco, I can still at least relate a little to kaira despite how much they have irritated me, but swarna is the biggest culprit in this whole fiasco.

Edited by sammy17 - 7 years ago

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Posted: 7 years ago

Somewhere naira is trying to act like she is the head of the family in this track. A girl who herself lived a life on streets, looting people lecturing aryan now and asking him to stand in one corner if he doesn't like celebration.

Is celebrating a wedding anniversary more important than celebrating arrival of long lost son?

I think unless one is hell lot biased towards kaira and fails to see naira is wrong and kartik is obeying her in this case just to glorify suwarna's disgusting act they wouldn't be approving of what naira told shubham.

Isn't she the same girl who was defending orphanage kids who spoiled all havan arrangements and dirtied goenka house jumping on sofas???

Where is her everyone is equal policy now???

the writers are overdoing everything now. I don't know what they really want out of this show. Seems they forgot a lot of things of past. Even that kaira doing devki vasudev drama seemed senseless .

They better end the show on a positive note instead of beating sround the bush repeating same old step children are villains and leads are only good children. Then naman now aryan.

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Originally posted by: sammy17

Swarna, like you said, has not even bothered to have a heartfelt convo with aryan and deeply apologise saying what she did to him was wrong and she realises it. Instead she's crying in front of the family for them to understand that she made a big sacrifice for karthik and manish. Cry me a bucket woman. After this track, I no longer care to see swarna's scenes. After this fiasco, I can still at least relate a little to kaira despite how much they have irritated me, but swarna is the biggest culprit in this whole fiasco.

^This.

Is Suwarna even sorry for what she did, coz from what I have seen so far is she believes that she did no wrong - what she did was a sacrifice! 🤢

Her constant crying, trying to be a victim is disgusting. And to top it off, her brother (who aided and abetted her crime) had the audacity to call Manish and lecture him. I have started to despise this Suwarna character. This pathetic handling of the track is not painting anyone in good light.

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Originally posted by: ErisedWitch45

^This.

Is Suwarna even sorry for what she did, coz from what I have seen so far is she believes that she did no wrong - what she did was a sacrifice! 🤢

Her constant crying, trying to be a victim is disgusting. And to top it off, her brother (who aided and abetted her crime) had the audacity to call Manish and lecture him. I have started to despise this Suwarna character. This pathetic handling of the track is not painting anyone in good light.

I think I may hate myself for saying this, but it is now that I truly feel this show is just dragging, and needs to end. Are they planning on milking this show as much as they can till its trp's drop to an ultimate low? In the past channels have made the decision of taking shows off air even when ratings were good, only because they thought there was no story left to show, and this would be the best decision for yeh rishta. It is already the longest running show, and ending the show when it's ratings are still high and in the top 10 would be good. At least haters can't mock the show saying it got bad trp's because of kaira and etc. The reason for the show ending should be that there is nothing left to show, and that's it. Shivin proved themselves by leading the show and not letting the show drop from it's glory even after hina and karan left the show, as so many shivin/ kaira haters were claiming shivin would wreck this show and the show would not be successful without hina-karan/ naithik-akshara, but they were proven wrong. Shivin breathed new life into the show, but the problem is that they have come into the show so late in the show's lifespan that there is no more story left to tell. The only thing that seems a little interesting is this new apparent big secret about naira's past as tina that could tear naira's relationship with karthik apart, which knowing from experience with this show, will just be a petty secret they are making a big issue out of for drama.

Edited by sammy17 - 7 years ago

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Don't think they have no story left to be told ..They had a perfect set up with goenka family and a lot could be done but I can't fathom the reason behind this skewed perspective of the cvs ...Good actors are being wasted ..

.Yeah the couples are different , naitik akshara and kaira are different but I can't help but compare them..With naitik akshara the issues between them and the family were very realistic , any normal housewife/family would relate to them ..We used to discuss them at length ..The chemistry etc audience wanted to see and little bit we got to watch..Mostly their scenes were forced ..Whatever ...With kaira every track has a beginning and it ends without proper justification or build up...This is the case since kirti naksh track and now aryan..None of the characters have a voice except kartik and naira ..Just what they say hold weightage ..Very odd...I liked manish a lot when he was introduced ..See how they changed him..They put everyone in the same mould ...I don't believe a show can survive only the chemistry of the leads..Let's see..

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janvi0513

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue
In my opinion CVs used Kaira for glorification of imaginary tyag. Now disliking the word tyag itself. They definitely did it for trps but maybe this situation can have reverse effect on trps. Didn't expect anything other than Karthik accepting Suwarna as mother after knowing about her sacrifice. This situation is being used several times and conveniently used here too. Momo's powerful acting does make that scene impactful but Suwarna character's complete indifference towards Shubam is making me dislike her even more than before. As Kaira are leads therefore they could use them only for conveying their disastrous message of tyag, can't blame Kaira here.

What am trying to say is if Kaira are siding Suvarna strongly, even Aryan is also opposing strongly. It is not like a word hasn't been said against Suvarna's sacrifice, it has, if Kaira started the play, Aryan disrupted the play. Kaira supporting Suvarna make sense, Suvarna has done this so called sacrifice one of the big reasons is Karthik and he knows that add the guilt of his misunderstandings regarding Suvarna you would find his act justifiable, he wants to support her this time, when he sees Shubham not listening he sees himself and Naira has sided Suvarna always.

I don't think there is a complete indifference, you can see a pain in her eyes when Shubham speaks something, even yesterday she said Shubham might be thinking you are on my side to Manish, she was concerned. Though yes I 100% that this is not enough and they should show her yearning for Shubham a lot more. More of how he is effecting her on the inside.

Like I have said many times am not saying Suvarna's act was right, but Kaira supporting her, even they are right where they stand.

Like I wrote in the main post itself I feel that Suvarna giving up her child is glorified by the creatives to an extent but we are feeling it even more because it is done by Kaira. The fact that they are the leads, and very good actors all add up.

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Originally posted by: Meherya123
Somewhere naira is trying to act like she is the head of the family in this track. A girl who herself lived a life on streets, looting people lecturing aryan now and asking him to stand in one corner if he doesn't like celebration.
Is celebrating a wedding anniversary more important than celebrating arrival of long lost son?
I think unless one is hell lot biased towards kaira and fails to see naira is wrong and kartik is obeying her in this case just to glorify suwarna's disgusting act they wouldn't be approving of what naira told shubham.

Isn't she the same girl who was defending orphanage kids who spoiled all havan arrangements and dirtied goenka house jumping on sofas???

Where is her everyone is equal policy now???

the writers are overdoing everything now. I don't know what they really want out of this show. Seems they forgot a lot of things of past. Even that kaira doing devki vasudev drama seemed senseless .
They better end the show on a positive note instead of beating sround the bush repeating same old step children are villains and leads are only good children. Then naman now aryan.

Who should be more important to Naira? Manish-Suwarna or Shubham? Parents are always more important than siblings and here though Suwarnish are not her biological parents but they have been with her in all difficult times. Why shouldn't she care MORE about her parent's happiness than a person she met a few days ago? Naira is no righteous mahan character who can be right every single time. Regarding orphanage kids she will definitely feel more for them as she has grown up with them. Also she asked Shubham to join them during celebration gave him piece of cake and tried to talk to him but when he joined them on Naira's insistence Dadi didn't introduce him to the people around though he was happy on being asked by Naira to join them (happiness can be visible from his face) but Dadi spoiled that moment due to her fake reputation . Also Naira once told Suwarna that u made a mistake that is not enough I know but I can't expect Naira to go against Suwarna or to misbehave with her I truly can't expect that. What she said to Shubam was out of anger as he was trying to come between Suwarnish and u can't see ur parents or people u consider ur parents being separated that also after years of togetherness on their special day. No ur close ones no matter how wrong they are u will ultimately be biased towards them than strangers. Orphange kids and Suwarnish are Naira's family. Naira and Karthik are wrong in siding with Suwarna but not more wrong than Suwarna mata herself.

Edited by ShadowImbue - 7 years ago

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Who should be more important to Naira? Manish-Suwarna or Shubham? Parents are always more important than siblings and here though Suwarnish are not her biological parents but they have been with her in all difficult times. Why shouldn't she care MORE about her parent's happiness than a person she met a few days ago? Naira is no righteous mahan character who can be right every single time. Regarding orphanage kids she will definitely feel more for them as she has grown up with them. Also she asked Shubham to join them during celebration gave him piece of cake and tried to talk to him but when he joined them on Naira's insistence Dadi didn't introduce him to the people around though he was happy on being asked by Naira to join them (happiness can be visible from his face) but Dadi spoiled that moment due to her fake reputation . Also Naira once told Suwarna that u made a mistake that is not enough I know but I can't expect Naira to go against Suwarna or to misbehave with her I truly can't expect that. What she said to Shubam was out of anger as he was trying to come between Suwarnish and u can't see ur parents or people u consider ur parents being separated that also after years of togetherness on their special day. No ur close ones no matter how wrong they are u will ultimately be biased towards them than strangers. Orphange kids and Suwarnish are Naira's family. Naira and Karthik are wrong in siding with Suwarna but not more wrong than Suwarna mata herself.

piece of cake what? Naira is the samw one who told shubham to stay away if he doesn't like the celebration.