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Originally posted by: QueSeraSera
Hey Zoya a wonderful post again and I like the title a lot...I have a weird fascination with titles so when a post has a lovely title that gives the idea of the content in a nutsehell I am impressed, its a little OCD thing ☺️😆
I agree with you here that Ishita has nothing to lose - because in her mind she believes she has already lost. She has lost the chance to be a mother to the girl who is the child of her heart, the little girl who doesn't even know she is her own flesh and blood. But most of all she has lost the acceptance for who she is and was from the man who is the love of her life, the one person she thought loved her regardless of her shortcomings and who was her shield against the world.
She has believed rather strongly the words thrown at her. Because not only did she lose her child, but she involuntarily became the reason a man who is a good friend of her lost seven precious years of his life to immobility being stuck in a paralytic state. Those years not only cost him his health and f his life was confined to a bed but also incurred him losses in business due to his unavailability to look after things himself.
She has taken it to her heart that she is a bad omen, does damage people around her, and so has lost the will to fight for herself but...I disagree that she has lost her self-respect. Had that been the case she would have done exactly what incited Raman in the first place to propose to Shagun. She would have begged and pleaded with him to take her back, sobbed her heart out to give him explanations and justifications for her actions all those years back and not stayed stoic, the one thing that has angered him the most.
It is IMO her self-respect which doesn't allow her to beg Raman, as it is beneath the dignity of any woman to beg a man, any man least of all her husband to beg him to love her because that is simply too mortifying a prospect to even think about least of all do it.
It was guilt that made her walk away from Raman emerged of his accusations thrown at her, guilt at wronging a good man and two children dependent on him, as his family that made her stay with Mani and his family to look after them and it is once again guilt IMO that is spurring her return to Bhalla house. The guilt of being unable to protect Ruhi all those years back - she cannot change the past nor can she give Ruhi back those years of childhood but the least she can do is now make sure Ruhi is back where she belongs - in the safety of her home and family and to her father.
Her guilt is navigating her.
It is that guilt once again which is making her underestimate her importance to not only the rest of the family but also Ruhi and Raman. Her vision is clouded by that guilt which has been festering for seven years and finally she has a chance at breaking those shackles and chains she has carried for far too long. Which is why she is unable to see with her clouded vision what she means to the two people most important in the world to her - but it isn't unnoticed by the one woman who you call the master manipulator - Shagun.
Nothing is going unnoticed by her - Raman and his reactions to Ishita or th effect she has on the family even now as well as the boy she bore and Pihu as well...
She is noticing everything and as you said she is the one filled with insecurity as she lost everything that she once took for granted, even in the precap last night her words are all of this is mine...
It reminds me of a scene from the early days of the show when Ishita and Shagun have this showoff in a spa where they bump into each other. Shagun says a lot of things to Ishita then one of which is she is living off on her hand me downs - her rejects and discards - she is nothing more than a nanny to Ruhi, Raman has procured and Ishita should be thankful to her for leaving behind everything that she did, else Ishita wouldn't have had anything today.
Ishita agrees with the assessment and says that she has got what Shagun chose to discard in her ambitions but nothing would make her leave what she left...
Ironically, Ishita left...but she didn't leave too - she wasn't present these past seven years in the Bhalla house, in Raman' life but her presence was felt everywhere...
It was in the way the home became a house as brothers quarreled and parted. A son became aloof from his parents and even from the rest of the family. A father distanced himself from his son, even in the person that Adi, Shagun' own flesh and blood became who he is now. It was felt through Pihu, the one person who Shagun is using to her advantage, not realizing that the reason Raman hasn't been able to detach himself from Pihu when he could do so from everyone else was that she was part Ishita.
So yes while technically Ishita left, she didn't really leave...
What she managed to do in those two years with Raman and the family left so strong a mark that Shagun couldn't manage to undo in the seven years she toiled and became exactly what she labeled Ishita as once - an aaya, a nanny to her daughter Pihu.
Isn't it something Shagun stayed with Raman for 6 years ,their divorce case lasted another 6 and now she has been again living at his mercy sort of since the past 7 years - 19 years to be precise. Almost 2 decades of her life and here is a woman who has spent exactly a fraction - 1/10th of the period to be precise with those very people and that man and Shagun has been literally trying to ape her in these seven years but has managed to get nowhere.
Now that Ishita is back, slowly she is managing to get under Raman' skin right in front of Shagun, as she watches with horror...her carefully laid plans going to waste.
What is interesting here is while Shagun overestimates herself and understands how exactly Ishita and Raman are underestimating each other and themselves or their love involuntarily she would create situations that would help curb the distance that has yawned between the couple. She might also use in this maneuver the one man who interestingly enough deemed perfect by Raman for Ishita himself, the one man who makes him insecure. - Mani - only to eliminate the biggest hurdle that is stopping Raman in accepting his feelings. Shagun might try to taint and tarnish Ishita' reputation when she gets desperate enough as she finds herself failing and might end up getting the biggest loss she never saw coming her way.
And as these thirty days end, Ishita Bhalla would reemerge as would Shagun Arora.
Originally posted by: bscorp13
Zoya..nice take again..
Raman's Ishita has never quite been revealed to audiences..we have seen ishita iyer.. even Ishita bhalla..but then what she really feels about raman and about having raman in her life has been expressed in very few occassions. ..we saw glimpses in the jail track and again a few glimpses in tjhe current track...But while she misses him in her life and claims she can't love another. ..it doesn't quite ever match the passion with which he loves her..I am not saying she loves him lesser..but. tjhe madness is missing. ..does it stem out from the insecurity that maybe she doesn't deserve him? Or does it stem from the insecurity that she got him in het life only because ruhi forced them together. .had that not been the case, raman may have never wanted someone like her..remember her rant pre C nite., that she can't make him go weak on his knees...more than that being just a shagun vs ishita rant i see that more as a 'if circumstances were different i am sure you would not even have spared me a c second look..I am far far from your type of a woman'..and that ugly insecurity is now in full force ..now that raman and she have been seperate for years and now she perceives raman's ideal of a woman..ie shagun back in that place where she was ... and that is making her plain blind to everything else. .bLind to raman's outbursts. .blind to his loneliness .. in that lift scene.. and blind to what everyone else including shagun and mani can see.. the love.. which had not diminished., infact it has gotten more deeper and madder than before. ..And no...i see a lot of people shocked at 'how can she think of going back even now'..but that isn't strange to me. IMO..there is a huge difference between raman and Ishita's perception and preparedness to face each other after all these years..Raman perceived ishita as dead ... and when she came back alive..and that too with mani and aliya..he struggled with a crazy bunch of feelings., happiness anger, jealousy, possessiveness , pain. . And he still has not managed to come to terms with it., so he doesn't know what he wants from this relationship ..does he want her to stay with him., does he want her to go away and lessen his pain. ..does he himself want to run away and spare everyone the pain...etcBut ishita was different. . She always knew raman and the kids were alive. .living far from her ., but existing nonetheless. .but she chose to stay away..it was a choice... and that also meant she had 7 long years to 'prepare' her mind for never seeing that family again. .never seeing het own daughtet..never seeing her son and never ever seeing the man she loved to death and back. .So today it's part obligation. .part selfish desires.. and part that achinG love and of course ruhi that's made her stay back. ..she is still confident though that once thingo are in better shape she can go back to her shell and assume all this never happened and live her solitary life in Australia. .because she has been doing it..pretty well for 7 yrs., why not tjhe rest of her life too...But she doesn't know how wrong she is...while circumstances change... she really underestimates her own emotions in the drama that will play out in tjhe next 30 days...Only if cvs are so nice as to show us some of her conflict...😛