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Hey Zoya a wonderful post again and I like the title a lot...I have a weird fascination with titles so when a post has a lovely title that gives the idea of the content in a nutsehell I am impressed, its a little OCD thing ☺️😆
I agree with you here that Ishita has nothing to lose - because in her mind she believes she has already lost. She has lost the chance to be a mother to the girl who is the child of her heart, the little girl who doesn't even know she is her own flesh and blood. But most of all she has lost the acceptance for who she is and was from the man who is the love of her life, the one person she thought loved her regardless of her shortcomings and who was her shield against the world.
She has believed rather strongly the words thrown at her. Because not only did she lose her child, but she involuntarily became the reason a man who is a good friend of her lost seven precious years of his life to immobility being stuck in a paralytic state. Those years not only cost him his health and f his life was confined to a bed but also incurred him losses in business due to his unavailability to look after things himself.
She has taken it to her heart that she is a bad omen, does damage people around her, and so has lost the will to fight for herself but...I disagree that she has lost her self-respect. Had that been the case she would have done exactly what incited Raman in the first place to propose to Shagun. She would have begged and pleaded with him to take her back, sobbed her heart out to give him explanations and justifications for her actions all those years back and not stayed stoic, the one thing that has angered him the most.
It is IMO her self-respect which doesn't allow her to beg Raman, as it is beneath the dignity of any woman to beg a man, any man least of all her husband to beg him to love her because that is simply too mortifying a prospect to even think about least of all do it.
It was guilt that made her walk away from Raman emerged of his accusations thrown at her, guilt at wronging a good man and two children dependent on him, as his family that made her stay with Mani and his family to look after them and it is once again guilt IMO that is spurring her return to Bhalla house. The guilt of being unable to protect Ruhi all those years back - she cannot change the past nor can she give Ruhi back those years of childhood but the least she can do is now make sure Ruhi is back where she belongs - in the safety of her home and family and to her father.
Her guilt is navigating her.
It is that guilt once again which is making her underestimate her importance to not only the rest of the family but also Ruhi and Raman. Her vision is clouded by that guilt which has been festering for seven years and finally she has a chance at breaking those shackles and chains she has carried for far too long. Which is why she is unable to see with her clouded vision what she means to the two people most important in the world to her - but it isn't unnoticed by the one woman who you call the master manipulator - Shagun.
Nothing is going unnoticed by her - Raman and his reactions to Ishita or th effect she has on the family even now as well as the boy she bore and Pihu as well...
She is noticing everything and as you said she is the one filled with insecurity as she lost everything that she once took for granted, even in the precap last night her words are all of this is mine...
It reminds me of a scene from the early days of the show when Ishita and Shagun have this showoff in a spa where they bump into each other. Shagun says a lot of things to Ishita then one of which is she is living off on her hand me downs - her rejects and discards - she is nothing more than a nanny to Ruhi, Raman has procured and Ishita should be thankful to her for leaving behind everything that she did, else Ishita wouldn't have had anything today.
Ishita agrees with the assessment and says that she has got what Shagun chose to discard in her ambitions but nothing would make her leave what she left...
Ironically, Ishita left...but she didn't leave too - she wasn't present these past seven years in the Bhalla house, in Raman' life but her presence was felt everywhere...
It was in the way the home became a house as brothers quarreled and parted. A son became aloof from his parents and even from the rest of the family. A father distanced himself from his son, even in the person that Adi, Shagun' own flesh and blood became who he is now. It was felt through Pihu, the one person who Shagun is using to her advantage, not realizing that the reason Raman hasn't been able to detach himself from Pihu when he could do so from everyone else was that she was part Ishita.
So yes while technically Ishita left, she didn't really leave...
What she managed to do in those two years with Raman and the family left so strong a mark that Shagun couldn't manage to undo in the seven years she toiled and became exactly what she labeled Ishita as once - an aaya, a nanny to her daughter Pihu.
Isn't it something Shagun stayed with Raman for 6 years ,their divorce case lasted another 6 and now she has been again living at his mercy sort of since the past 7 years - 19 years to be precise. Almost 2 decades of her life and here is a woman who has spent exactly a fraction - 1/10th of the period to be precise with those very people and that man and Shagun has been literally trying to ape her in these seven years but has managed to get nowhere.
Now that Ishita is back, slowly she is managing to get under Raman' skin right in front of Shagun, as she watches with horror...her carefully laid plans going to waste.
What is interesting here is while Shagun overestimates herself and understands how exactly Ishita and Raman are underestimating each other and themselves or their love involuntarily she would create situations that would help curb the distance that has yawned between the couple. She might also use in this maneuver the one man who interestingly enough deemed perfect by Raman for Ishita himself, the one man who makes him insecure. - Mani - only to eliminate the biggest hurdle that is stopping Raman in accepting his feelings. Shagun might try to taint and tarnish Ishita' reputation when she gets desperate enough as she finds herself failing and might end up getting the biggest loss she never saw coming her way.
And as these thirty days end, Ishita Bhalla would reemerge as would Shagun Arora.
Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005
I couldn't access your VM. It made me sadLovely profile pic though😆
Ur posts always bring a smile on my face coz it has a unbiased analysis of both the characters for on the forum I mostly see biased opinions for the love of the character or actor in particular.As a ishra/divan lover whof loves both the characters and actors equally it get tough at times and a number of times I have stayed back from mentioning what I felt bcoz it's somewhere lost in the ishita v/s raman war.I feel Your posts are safe place to quote what u feel as a ishra lover😆Ok so my two cents about ur post goes -
Deep down she knows raman loves her courtesy the lift confrontation and what followed it but but the words uttered by raman repeatedly after that and his declaraction of marriage to shagun then calling her the "asli maa" and then the wedding have all just made her belief stronger that raman clearly doesnt want her back or continues to see her as his wife.If I were in ishita's place I would never go back to this kind of a man for anything but then that's what ishra as a couple is all about😆kuch bhi ho jaaye they wI'll forgive and forget each other and move on and the same holds good with us ...just one good ishra scene and we forget everything from ishita's unnecessary jagatmaata avataar to raman 's jaanvar avatar.
Lovely post & I have little more to add about Ishita bc you did a great job...
What's sad though is that due to her insecurities and IshRa's inability to talk - Ishita is planning leave her 3 children again. While it's understandable like Raman in guilt track was, is it the need of the hour? Raman was mocked by viewers for not opening his mouth & chased down by Ishita. What will the case be for Ishita to stay back?
Is this to say a person should compromise their self worth for their kids? No but what guarantee does Ishita have that when she leaves Raman won't go back to slapping Adi & being the angry janwar he was before?
This entire scenario is uncomfortable to me bc what about the kids. Where do you draw the line between being an individual and being a parent?
Originally posted by: Divya5377
I really felt bad for Ishu..to be honest I wonder how she is fighting for her daughter coz she lost herself totally..I remember during vandu baby shower she told Raman when you and Ruhi are with me..I get the confidence to face the world..she doesn't have her dear ones support now..she is at least not clarified by Raman that he understands her..at this point of time I lost my respect for Raman..why did he went to Shagun to take care of Pihu..his mom,his sister,amma,vandu are there to take care..does he not have responsibility to seek forgiveness from Ishu mom when he presumed that she is dead..i still don't understand what logic he is convinced that he never told to Pihu about Ishu..I understand out of heat he uttered that horrible words..with in these 7 years didn't he ever felt Ishu is not at fault and tried to do something for her..why did he allowed things to happen when Shagun breaks marriage with Manoj..is he also indirectly expecting her to be in his life Pihu ke liye..I understand he don't love Shagun but does he think Shagun has right to become mom..let's leave all of it now..like how nicely Ishu clarified Mani that Ishu can never love Mani and she always give that place to Raman..why can't Raman atleast clarify Shagun and show her right place...I so wish gradually all of my answers would be provided