Raja's mistakes???????

I would like to know from somebody who has some knowledge of music as to what were Raja's mistakes...and like HR said there were too many. I couldn't find a single flaw with his singing so please somebody enlighten me. According to me Raja and Amanat are the best and deserve to win the contest.

in his teri deewani, trust me, his lyrics were so off.. he even had the main line's lyrics improper/

Originally posted by: sehr4life

in his teri deewani, trust me, his lyrics were so off.. he even had the main line's lyrics improper/

true, and also near the end when he was doing an alaap he held it for one extra beat so he was singing one beat behind the track for a while and then later on he sped up one line in order to catch up to the track.

his low notes were very shaky

Thanks guys I couldn't find anything wrong..I just love his rendition every single time!!!!!!

i 've been following this saregamapa since the olden times.. even the 2005 performers were gr88 .. but no one even dared to enter this territory ..i mean .... changing the original song..in a better way..
here amanat ...and aneek are at par with those ...of the likes of vinit or may be hemachandra.. may be even better at times... but ..
I am a big fan of amanat's sur ,mussarrat's range , aneek's perfection, sumedha's tonal quality and mauli's confidence but still ...
raja is in a class of his own.... nearly every song that he has sung.. he has done something different..you wont realize them until u listen to the original songs...

1.allah ke bande- added the alaap at the start of the song..not to mention the 'off beat' rendition of toota toota...in the end..

2. kacche dhage- he sang the last few lines with so many variations and reached a classy heart touching note in the ending words 'tujhe dhonde 'ye-e-ee' nazar' ....even the original singer would have been proud of that...

3.mahiya- just listen to the alaap after the mukhda .. mindblowing.. just nusrat fateh ali khan could have done that... some ppl criticized that he sang it wrong but again he muffled some words in the end of the sargam ..which is also a style..

4.naina thag lenge- man .... everyone has been appreciating this song since day one.. so no elaborations needed i feel.. but still i would say that the low note rendition of the words 'naina bawara-naina bawara' is so tough ..man just try it urself... Also the real sixer was after the once more call .. when he sung it again ... great variations.

5.piya re -piya re- before forgetting the lyrics ...the sargam part was too good to be forgotten.

6. meri zindagi ek pyaas- just recall it and it will start haunting u ..the pain in his voice.. mind blowing.

7.afoo khuda- perhaps the most underrated song that he has sung.. but just listen to the original song sung by mohd. rafi .. from the movie jab jab phool khile ...well i'd say that he sung it at par with the original... if not better.

8.awarapan banjarapan- the scope of modifying the song is almost nil .. as it has many straight notes and is very simple and serene.. but still he did justice to this song..keeping it short and sweet without any mistakes... the song's beauty lies in its uncomplicated nature.

9.tare gin gin,chak de phatte,saara zamana- he kept his energy level very high althroughout these songs...(keeping aside the lyrics thing)

10. tu hi re- this song required immense precision as it is sung by hariharan..and raja's voice has a pretty different texture ...but he sang it well... just listen to those notes .. in the words.. tere 'bina-a-a-a' main kaise jiyun .. in the end .. it feels like chords floating in the whole room.

9.rut aa gai re rut cha gai re.. was perhaps a song where he could have done better . Though he sang well enough ...but still he pretty much limited himself as far as experimenting is concerned...i mean he should have taken the alaap in the end..

10. last but not the least - teri deewani -
a. the prestart he gave to the main alaap with a short alaap was not in the original..
b. the whole alaap in the beginning ..just listen to the last words of the lines..they were all different.
c.in the middle of he antra he took another short alaap .. which was mindblowing..
d.the off beat rendition of the mukhda again in the end.. was awesome..

GUYS ...FOR ME A GR88 SINGER IS ONE WHO STANDS OUT IN THE CROWD...JUST TELL ME HOW MANY SONGS SUNG BY OTHER SINGERS ARE STILL HAUNTING U ...?
MAY BE 1 ,2 ..OR THREE EACH.. LIKE AMANATS - YE HAUSLA ,KADIYA MIL SAWAN ..OR MAY BE MUSARRATS SAWARE...ETC .. BUT EVERYTHING THIS MAN SINGS ...LINGERS ON U...HE HAS THAT AURA SORROUNDING HIM...
ITS RIGHTLY SAID THAT, HE HAS THAT DIVINE QUALITY IN HIS VOICE.I AM A DOCTOR.... HAVE AN EXAM TO TAKE IN 15 DAYS WHICH WILL DECIDE MY CAREER..BUT STILL JUST CANT STOP MYSELF FROM CRAVING TO SEE THE EPISODE ON FRIDAYS....AND THATS SINCE RAJA HAS COME INTO THE COMPETITION.
I KNOW THAT PPL FROM BIKANER ARE A FACTOR IN HIM GETTING MANY VOTES .. BUT WHEN U DESERVE IT ..ITS NOT AN ISSUE.
RAJA U ROCK...

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he didnt miss beats... thats a classical variation ..in which u adjust more words than expected in a single beat..
pretty tough to do unless u have total command over the rhythm..
this playinh with the beats can also be the other way round,,,, remember when he sang toota toota .. in a rather slow way while singing the ending portions of allah ke bande...there he adjusted single word in 2 beats..
hope u get my point.
please guys dont say that it was a missed beat..it really hurts... he has tried to do something good and ppl are criticising it due to lack of knowledge abt classical music.

lalbullet......I'm totally impressed by your analysis..wish I could give you a standing ovation. Every word you've written makes such perfect sense and I agree 100%. Raja's singing touches me so deeply that it's an overwhelming feeling like Vishal says it's almost divine!Listen do you know where I can listen to his earlier songs.haven't heard tu hi re and that's one of my favs. please please let me know. From the last 4-5 episodes I have everything on DVD.
And hon. all the best for your exam!!!

@mumbai 80
thanks .... for ur comments...

well this is perhaps against the forum rules but u can listen to his songs on *************

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