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Posted: 11 years ago
Tell me whether I am right or wrong Abhay😊...As I have deduced it, after reading one of your previous links😉
Yesterday they showed, MC with two daughters:
1) One I assume is Fakhrunissa --- Who will marry Abul Mali
2) The second one is Baktunissa -- Whom Akbar gave the rule of Kabul much later on (after Hakim-Maan Singh battle and thereafter)...And this sister returned the throne back to Hakim
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Posted: 11 years ago
After fazil begh, MahaC murdered Sha wali atgha after this she made alliance with haidar qasim then at the time of alliance with haidar qasim how can fazil begh is present with MahaC in serial? Then have cvs amalgamated these 2 persons topsy turvey way in serial where as when MahaC made alliance with haidar qasim, at this time fazil begh was already murdered!
Was this alliance genuinely MahaC's marriage with Haidar?
Thanx Abhay for giving these information.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek




Yes Radhika, the King RamaChandra of the said kingdom, was attacked as they are going to show in the serial.

@Bold... I could not find any historical ground for this, except some Kids Stories, on Internet. Akbar was born in the Fort of Umerkot, in the Palace of Raja Veersal, and that is in Pakistan now. And, the kingdom of this king who is being attacked falls in present day Madhya Pradesh state of India. Hence, Huge difference between the two places.😉


Coming to your question.

The man Akbar is miffed with, who is held for attacking him and Jodha in the jungle(as per show), is > Ghazi Khan, who has taken refuge with Raja Ramachandra of Rewa (in Akbarnama this place is called Panna).


Brief history of Ghazi Khan.


Raja HemaChandra Vikramaditya, or Hemu, was a minister in the court of Mubar'riz Khan, who was an incapable ruler. Ultimately, Hemu managed the kingdom on behalf of his master.

We know Hemu was slained in the Second Battle of Panipat, in 1556. Now, the important Fort of Chunar(won by Sher Shah Suri) was held by a slave of Mubar'riz Khan named Fat-tu 😉 , who agreed to surrender it to Akbar {<from Akbarnama, Vol.2, Pg-190.} in 1561-62, after Akbar sent Asaf Khan to besiege the fort.

{ Though, Nizam-ud-din says, that Fat-tu wrote a letter HIMSELF, offering to surrender it, and afterwards Akbar sent Asaf Khan and Mohammed Ghauss, to take over the fort. I am giving both the Versions of this surrender . 😉 }

Now, when the fort was surrendered , it was handled over to Hussain Khan 'Turkman' . And, Asaf Khan was made the Governor of Kara(this is near Allahabad.) At this, Ghazi Khan who had earlier entered Akbar's service, became miffed and revolted, and went to the kingdom of Rewa(or, Panna), and took refuge there. The Raja of Rewa, being a Rajvanshi, could not say NO to someone who asked for help. This invited the wrath of Akbar.!!!!.
{Probably, Ghazi Khan was also involved in some conspiracy against Akbar, by joining hands with others who wanted to dethrone him. }

{Let me tell something about Asaf Khan. He was initially a writer in the court.😉 And his real name was Khwaja Abu'l Majid. He was given the title of Asaf Khan, due to his good fighting qualities. Asaf means, someone who "gathers/conquers". Hence, he became famous by his title only. 😉 }


Coming to the War with Raja RamaChandra of Rewa.

Around April, 1563, Asaf Khan and other commanders, defeated Raja Ramachandra. Ghazi Khan was brutally slained.

Akbarnama, Vol.2, Pg-282, says, initially Asaf Khan asked for surrender of Ghazi Khan, but when this fell on deaf " ears " , then Raja RamaChandra was attacked. The Raja prepared for war and with him were Rajputs and Afghans(from Asaf Khan). A savage battle was fought.

As per Akbarnama(page given above) >>

" The brave men on both sides washed their hands of their lives and fought a great battle.

Verse

The brave fought with bow and arrow
All strove with spear and sword
The world was full of diamond-pointed darts
The wind was from dust and BLOOD VERMILION-scattering. 😕

Mughal forces emerged victorious, and Ghazi Khan and other commanders were put to sword. Immense spoil fell into the hands of the victors. " At this time, at the intercession of a famous Raja* , an order was issued that Raja RamChandra had put the ring of servitude in his ear. 😉 "
Hence, his territories were not to be interfered with. In consequence of these orders Asaf Khan returned to Kara, his suba.

* --> The Raja who made this deal possible was most probably either Birbal, or Man Singh or TodarMal. I will update this, when i get confirmation.

And, in this intermediation, Tansen was DEMANDED from Raja Ramachandra, and reluctantly with a HEAVY heart, he had to send Tansen to Akbar. So, Tansen should come soon(as per history).

Now, coming to the original question , i guess now it's clear, that >> Raja RamaChandra was attacked. 😉 I have given the entire history of events which led to this attack along with proper BG from many sources.



Line in blue, I think now I understand why Tansen was shown as bit arrogant and uninterested on his entry in Agra. I guess this is why he had to be DEMANDED from Raja RamaChandra!

Otherwise if he was shown goody goody earlier, he could have joined Akbar darbar on his own!

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Minor Update - About the " Adventures " of Mahachuchak Begum 😉





Radhika ,

I will give the complete details later. Right now, i am highly stuck up. Just got some minutes, so i am answering this, as many people have asked about this Haider Qasim issue.😆.😉.
[ As, In today's episode there was a talk of her referring Haider as Abba Huzoor of her daughters. 😉 ]

Mahachuchak Begum was very cunning/cruel, etc. .
Don't forget she sent Vishkanya from Kabul. > .Link.

I had already labelled her as Maham-Part2, 6 months back, last year.😉 You can check this OLD link. > .Link. << Contains DETAILED info about THE ADVENTURES of MahaChuchak Begum.😉

First go through the ^^ above link, then follow the points below.



In short the story is >>>


1. Fazail Beg, the blind man is Munim Khan's brother. Initially, Munim Khan was in Kabul till 1560, then he came to Agra, and placed his son Ghani Khan in Kabul.

2. Fazail Beg was blinded by Kamran, Humayun's brother.

3. Munim's son Ghani Khan is in Kabul and majorly, he is having a heavy hand in administration, along with Fazail's son Abul Fath.

4. So, Mahachuchak will get him murdered with the help of his uncle, Fazail Beg( became Mirza Hakim's protector/caretaker/Wazir).

5. Then, Fazail Beg's son, Abul Fath will be beheaded, as he will try to gain power after Ghani's departure.

6. After Abul Fath, she will get Fazail Beg murdered.

7. In these two murders above, she will be supported by Shah Wali Atga of Ghazni,MAJORLY. ( Then, he became Mirza Hakim's protector/caretaker/Wazir). This man had strong backing from Ghazni + army. 😉

8. Then, she will get Shah Wali Atga murdered as he will try to usurp power, owing to his STRONG Central Asian roots and his clan in Ghazni.

9. In murder of Shah Wali Atga, she will be supported by Haider Qasim, with whom "SHE HAD FORGED AN ALLIANCE " .😲.😉. ( Then, he became Mirza Hakim's protector / caretaker / Wazir.😆.🤢.🥱. )

10. Then, on 28 April 1564, FINALLY, she will be murdered by her son in law Abul Maali in Kabul, along with Qasim Haider. 😉

11. Then, Abul Maali will be hanged. .Link.

Let's see who all, came and went..😉. >> Ghani Khan > Abul Fath > Fazail Beg > Shah Wali Atga > MahaChuchak > Qasim Haider > Abul Maali. 🥱

If you want the reasons, and details behind each assassination, i can give it, but slowly. BTW, interesting point is that, NONE of the Mughal Chroniclers i have read till now, recorded this ALLIANCE part. Especially, in Akbarnama, Mahachuchak Begum has been described as "Cupola of Chastity". 🤢.😲.🥱.😉. That's why i say read from MULTIPLE sources to get a better picture.😃

Will add more details in form of short updates, or as a follow up to questions here. 😊



Abhay this is fascinating information. What a bunch of sweethearts! 😲

OMG I was hoping the boy and uncle might run away at night, so there is going to be a Nikah! So along with MH even Jalal is going to get a new Abba Huzur?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad these chain link murderers all killed each other and Akbar was spared the effort also!
I guess Mahachuchak got paid by her own dear son-in-law.

Which reminds me did Jalal actually blind Abul Mali in one eye in some fighting?!


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Posted: 11 years ago
Long list of villains!!!!😲
But all of them will die in a short span of time😃
Cupola of Chastity??!! 😲🤔🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Abhay,
Thanks for all the info about Mahachuchak. May be she is the only lay in Indian history, who got killed so many of her own subordinates to save her position. And no wonder I have not read anything about her re marriage (as per yesterday's episode) when you, yourself have not read any such thing. But even if she marries him, may be she will keep it as a secret as she needs to claim Mughal taqt by using her right as Humayun's widow than some outsider.
What a clan Jalal has, a step mother ready to marry some one just to get the power, a step sister who is ready to kill her own brother just to get her right, a brother in law who is ready to snatch his wife as he lust her and think he was responsible for the victory over Amer. Let us wait and watch how Mirza will show his nature as a bad seedling in future.
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Posted: 11 years ago
interesting Abhay...

if fazl came to akbar in 1574, how they have shown him in initial episodes with Jalal??? as far as i know, Akbar knew him from childhood... then around Akbar's marriage with HK or the time of his twin kids, Fazl left Agra and came back later
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Posted: 11 years ago
Awesome info on MCB , thank you Abhay, Now understanding MCB and palatan in JA will be easier.
Edited by preeti.r - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

interesting Abhay...

if fazl came to akbar in 1574, how they have shown him in initial episodes with Jalal??? as far as i know, Akbar knew him from childhood... then around Akbar's marriage with HK or the time of his twin kids, Fazl left Agra and came back later


Diksha that was Abdul not Abul. I guess Abdul was a fictional character. Abdul and Abul Fazl aren't the same person. Abul Fazl wasn't Apahich. Was he Abhay?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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