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Posted: 16 years ago
#51

Both should say sorry. Both are wrong in some point.

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Posted: 16 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: sonu98

MITTIJALEBI & BUGGER...... i am sorry but i am not brought up to live with such an insult and I think when Gurpreet said sorry, Yash's mom also could say that she is also sorry for whatever went on between them....... if Gurpreet didnt mind it saying (even if it was just a TV thing----some may say that)..... Yash's mom could do that too...... but anyways, many people just like you two may still think that Gurpreet was wrong........... Even though I think she was not wrong.... and I think she said sorry, that was ok..... but it should have come from both sides..... RAJNI.D I agree with you.... thanks for starting this topic.........

beautifully laid down. good job!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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**Viewbie's note:Members a reminder..please don't get personal while discussing...I said this many times..again I repeat no personal attacks on any individual members of this forum..if you don't agree with certain views..just say "I don't agree with you..heres my POV" and then write your own POV...simple...learn to respect another individual's POV whether you agree to it or not..and try putting up healthy debates on the issue instead of trying to show another person down..remember this is not some war of words going on where the winner will get a trophy...this is just a forum where we all r here to present our POVS ..so lets show respect to everyone's POV and if u don't agree to it..state your own POV without getting personal with anyone..**
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

**Viewbie's note:Members a reminder..please don't get personal while discussing...I said this many times..again I repeat no personal attacks on any individual members of this forum..if you don't agree with certain views..just say "I don't agree with you..heres my POV" and then write your own POV...simple...learn to respect another individual's POV whether you agree to it or not..and try putting up healthy debates on the issue instead of trying to show another person down..remember this is not some war of words going on where the winner will get a trophy...this is just a forum where we all r here to present our POVS ..so lets show respect to everyone's POV and if u don't agree to it..state your own POV without getting personal with anyone..**

thanks Jyoti ..... :))
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Posted: 16 years ago
#55
im reposting some stuff that i had written before with a few modifications....the modifications are in color....

Originally posted by: phoenixsilver

first of all i find it really wierd when people look upon yash negatively coz he supports his mother...... as far as the promo goes it seemed to me that gurpreet said that no girl wud wanna live with a person like you.....it was directed at yash's mom.....seconly bout her bearing insults....well the only thing she has had to bear is the fact that yash's mom has said no to her as a bahu from day one......and bout the one time she called GP a ''bewakoof'' she was being harassed by three women in an extremely horrid manner....she was cornered completely....and so...just as many say that GP let out her emotions in the way she talked to Y's mom on stage .....Y's mom too similarly was in an extremely pressurised situation....her calling GP a bewakoof was a sentence in return to H's mom saying "ladki bewakoof nahin hain"...and so Y's mom said " bilkul bewakoof hain"....i.e she was trying to say that GP was bewakoof coz she was trying to get together with a boy whoz mother had made it absolutely clear that she did not look upon GP as a bahu....she had never made any diplomatic issues bout it.....like rajbeer's mom does.....at first she says jo beta chahega....and peeeche se she eggs vrinda on.....she shud realise that not just her son.....but even vrinda might get hurt by this...poor vrinda looked so confused....she didnt know what her status was with raj....yash's mom on the other hand had ALWAYS made it clear that GP was not her choice of a bahu.....and if Y's mom was such a bad person then why wud the other girls like her so much.....and its not like the other girls are namby pamby wimps who arent strong with their opinions......i remember nandita distinctly said to yash's mom that she was interested in yash.....but more than that she liked Y's mom as a person a lot.....nandita seems to me a very stong willed person.....and she seems to have no problems with Y's mom....and neither do priyanka or pooja or any of the other girls....

and as for Y's mom insulting GP......Y's mom has repeatedly refrained from enlisting any negative points bout GP on national tv.....even tho shes been egged on from all quarters.....and for some reason people seem to have a problem with this very attitude of hers and believe that she has been rejecting GP for no reason at all......why in the world wud a person reject a person withpout one shred of a reason to do so????.........i mean wud it be rational if there was this girl who was all perfect and yet you say....i dont like her ???........Y's mom has valid reasons......GP is not the kind who cud gell well in a joint family situation.....but Y's mom doesnt wanna malign a girl on national tv and so she keeps quiet......and bout the only reason she gives out ...i.e the whole chai nashta thing.....if u break down what she says bit by bit u'll get an idea of what she is trying to say.....she says....."agar koi mehmaan aaye ghar par .....aur agar main busy hun....aur agar main bahu se kahoon ke help me out a bit......the bahu shud not retort n say ke sorry mummyji mere paas time nahin hain main nahin kar sakti aap hi kar lijiye".......so first of all Y's mom isnt looking for a slave as many feel she is......she clearly says......IF i am busy only then will she ask her bahu for help.....so its Not like woh aaram se bathe rahegi and bahu will work as a slave......and her only point was that agar woh bahu se help maange toh bahu ulta muh par rudely jawaab na dede ke nahin mere paas time nahin hain.....which she might have felt that GP with her blunt attitude was capable of doing.....
as for her refusing to enter into a round table conference with GP and yash....she clearly mentioned....GP se bohot saara interaction ho gaya hain....now use the time to interact with the others girls....as it is with these new rules in the show.....barring the guys n girls from interacting with each other....and with the huge wall n all..... they dont get to interact.....so this one opportunity that yash got ....his mom wanted him to use it to meet other girls.....as it is GP had not let other girls interact with yash much.....and she herself had mentioned this in an earlier episode.....when she came upto all the girls n said she had been stopping the other girls from interacting with yash by her sayin yash mera hain n all...this was when she had yelled at amrita and said yash mera hain n all.....and that she apologised for it and wud let all interact but she continued doing the same even though she said she was open to his interacting with others she hogged all his time and he never got a chance to interact with others.....she repeatedly made complaints to him that other girls were trying to steal him from her n all....and that they were playing politics....when amrita was getting close to yash's mother....and just talking in a plain manner....GP considered it as an act of maska maroing or buttering up.....anyone who was not as blunt as her and was a bit polite in the conversation was maska maroing....she even said to priyanka ke ab tum BOW ban gayi ho toh kya hum par hukum chalaogi or smthing to that effect.....
as for yash supporting his mom over GP.....whats wrong with that......is it wrong for a guy to support his mother who has been with him all his life and not take sides with a girl whom he has known for just over three weeks.....and that too with there being NO commitment towards a marriage being mentioned at any point whatsoever.....

but yeah i agree.....all of us do have different opinions bout the same issue.....and discussions do tend to keep going round in circles.....so we can just agree to disagree.... 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Sarmita

The problem in India is that girls are supposed to keep quite and tolerate everything whatever their in-laws say. After living in the US for the past 10 years, I was thinking that things in India have changed and girls have their own say in everything as they are much more independent nowadays. After watching this show, I realised that, we are where we were before women used to be so independent.

In this case, I would say that everyone saw that Yash's mom was insulted, she shed tears but, most people fail to see what that girl would have been going through, living in the same house with a lady who misses no opportunity to tell her how bad she is. Subah uthke yeh bolna ki I am hungry doesn't make her suitable for a DIL????????????? So, may be she wants a DIL who won't feel hungry.
I don't know why Gurpreet has to go through all these. She is just 21, good looking, well-educated, she will get lots of boys who are better in every way than Yash.
Yesterday, Yash mentioned that "kata nikalne ki liye koi samajhdaar ko baithke baat karna chahiye" which he could have done but, he didn't get the opportunity. I don't think so. When Yash went with the ration, the other mothers tried to make Yash's mom, Yash and Gur seat and talk over the matter. That was a really good opportunity where they could have sorted out things. But, what did his mother do? She told Gurpreet to walk away and brought Pooja and Nandita to talk. So, Yash, you also didn't have the guts to tell your mom that no, I wanna sort out this prob and we all will talk over it.
There was another thing which surprised me was that when Yash's mom called Gurpreet to talk to her, yeh sirf tumhari life ka sawaal hai, yash to sirf meri hi baat manegi. She told her that tumhe to pata hi hai ki agar tum isse shaadi bhi kar lo to tumhe ana to mere hi ghar mein hai aur kaise nibhegi? She was correct in a way but, was that not blunt??????????
Gur was rude yesterday but, I guess these things have led her to open her mouth. Though she was rude but, what she said was right. Yash' mom never answers any question. She thinks that everyone should answer her. When she tried to do the same thing with Gurpreet's mother, she told her no more questions. Well, if we see everyone in the same level then, she was not wrong.
Also, Yash's mom likes Priyanka, Nandita and Pooja. Why? It can be because all of them are kind of focussed on other guys. Why doesn't she pick Swati or Vrinda? I don't think that she wants Yash to marry here. She has also said that Yash's brother, father and mother will choose his bride then, why bring Yash along????????? Why not all those other members?????????
Anyways, to be labelled a good DIL, you should never open your mouth and tolerate all the nonsense that comes to you.
For me though, Gur is bold and beautiful. Don't fall for Yash. Move along, make a good career and you will get lots of boys and good families who will treat you with respect. You deserve much better than this crappy family.

That's your point of view, the India I come from does not expect women to just tolerate everything, in this yashmom-gurpreet situation too, if u reverse the situation, with yash and gurpreet's mom, and had yash talked back to her the way gurpreet did to yash;s mom, and insulted her this way, many would have objected to that too, the expectation of respect is not just from the girl, the boy has to give respect to the girl's side as well......Where girls have a unique position in the family is that they come from another family and join a different one, meaning actually live with the new family, and in doing so, there are gonna be more conflicts and disagreements, that come with living together, and adjusting with people from different temparaments, so they have to be meatured enough to handle such situations, with responsibility and decency, no one expects the girls to just take the BS from anyone, no way, but the way with u can handle such delicate relations is important, unleashing a barrage of insults against ur in-laws is only gonna result in a fragmented family, and a broken home....yelling, and being disrespectful are not the only way to get your point across...
Same goes for gurpreet too, Yash's mom is living everyday with her, she might be getting cold vibes from gurpreet from day, as swati also tried to tell yash today, that since his mom is the one who lives with gurpreet, she knows her much better than yash can.....i don't think yash's mom goes out of her way to tell gurpreet how bad she isshe had kept her feelings to herself, until she was asked about her feeings for gurpreet, which is when she spoke the truth, she did not sugarcoat it, and tht's her fault, she told it like it is,
Only when she was ganged up on and forced to confront the situation did she sit down with gurpreet and told her what she feels, she has in no way tried to tell gurpreet how bad she is day in- day out...
To me too this is mind-boggling, on the one hand gurpreet says, ki any girl in the whole world would not like to be a bahu in your house, and then moments later, she is ready to go out with the same lady's son, when given an oppurtunity, why??? if tht lady insulted here sooooo much acc to her, then why is she still hung up on her son???? Wouldn't she have to marry in the same family if things went ahead with yash???
Regarding this situation, his mom did have a point, he gets very limited oppurtunity to interact with the girls, only when he or any of the girls that win a task chooses him , can they go out, and he already went out with gurpreet, so his mom wanted him to utilize that time to know some of the other girls as well, nothing wrong in that....

How is that blunt???????????omg if this is blunt, then what gurpreet said in the stage epi, is off the charts horrible, and rude, she just gave her advice, that think logically, if u can already see that we are not cozying up to each other, then later on we'll have to live together, what's gonna happen then????????I dunno how she could have said tht thing in any way mider than that....

In yesterdays show, yash's mom ,and yash for that matter, showed tremendous restraint, by asking q's yash's mom was trying to avoid coming down to gurpreet's level and avoid insulting gurpree left and right , unlike gurpreet herself, who spoke like she's got verbal diarrhea, and is unable to stop talking, they way she spoke to yash's mom was unacceptable, in my family, we can't even speak to the maid in that tone....disgusting ..i dunno what kidn of manners her parents have taught her...

To me Gurpreet is not a bad girl, she's just immature, and a little misbehaved, arrogant person, not yet ready for a serious relationship as marriage, she needs to take time to explore the world, give herself time, to find herself, become a woman, and only then enter into the sacred bond of marriage......she can certainly find any good guy out there in the real world, as can yash find any good girl outside, hope the can both figure out what's best for them soon...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I feel Yash mom is too judgemental , without thinking abt her own behaviour . in yesterdays episode also when ther was a fight , she was so rude to hitesh's mom ,saying 'aap chup rahiye '😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_jindagi

i don't understand a thing tht people here in forum keep saying tht yash's mom insulted gurpreet over and over but i never find an episode where she insulted gurpreet. Is disapproving gurpreet or calling her bewkoof is an insult? may be her way of saying things can be wrong but i don't think tht she is wrong totally.

Disaproving is not called insluting but calling a girl names, giving nasty comments on her (bevakuf hai) is actually called insluting. Today's girls dont take anything negative on themselves, this is why they flip! Im sure every girl has limited patience in them. So, hnestly the mum shud keep her comments to herself n if dislikes the girl then move on other than creating drama hun! 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Showbizz

I feel Yash mom is too judgemental , without thinking abt her own behaviour . in yesterdays episode also when ther was a fight , she was so rude to hitesh's mom ,saying 'aap chup rahiye '😕

she never said aap chup rahiye....when the boys were fighting and the mom's were trying to talk them out of their fight.....H's mom took upon herself the task of talking and advicing not just her own son but also somebody else's son....so when she interfered while yash's mom was talking to yash and started telling yash ke beta aapko aise karna chahiye ...and aise nahin karna chahiye....yash's mom said...."main bol rahi hun na".....at least give her the freedom to talk to her own son....yash's mom never tried to tell hitesh beta aap yeh karo ya woh karo....
Edited by phoenixsilver - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#60
In a way I agree and don't agree at the same point. Yash's mom told frm like 2nd or 3rd week of the show tht she doesn't see gurpreet as her bahu, so i think gurpreet should have stepped back then rather than creating drama on the 18th oct episode. I think its both's fault not just yash' s mom.

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