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Kalapi thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Funny, I guess the unmarried woman shouldn't keep the leg open as she is in 'luurveee' and then should give her man up to her sister the day after the ecstasy😉...ahhh I guess this is 21st century morality - I get it😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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When Ovi forcefully married a man who clearly is in love with someone else...what does she expect out of this relationship. The whole basis of this marriage is all wrong...she made her bed and now she must lie in it. Myself as a mother would never ever do anything to harm my child whether I have my husband's support or not...that is what a good mother does. Ovi does not even deserve to be a mother...she is too self absorbed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Funny, I guess the unmarried woman shouldn't keep the leg open as she is in 'luurveee' and then should give her man up to her sister the day after the ecstasy😉...ahhh I guess this is 21st century morality - I get it😃

this has nothing to do with married or unmarried ppl at this precise moment...the topic is about Ovi and the consequences of her actions...which is now regret and feeling burdened by her pregnancy...why avert attention somewhere else which was not the main focus in the first place...irregardless of morality or not,it comes down to maturity and responsibilities..if u know ur are not mentally,emotionally fit to deal with pregnancy and babies dont get into a situation that warrrants and will results in such responsibilities..furthermore,whether u like to hear it or not there will be ppl who are going to be immoral but that aint goint to stop ppl from assuming or shunning their responsibilities...so in ur opinion ,marriage gives u the lisence to do whatever u want whenever u feel like it ,but at the end of it all just go and ignore the consequences associated with such said behaviour...Things dont work like that..if u kno u not cut out for certain respeonsibilities then dont partake in such activities...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wouldn't say that . Constantly saying that she entered a loveless marraige so she must suffer for life is not right in my opinion . She did try her best to make the marraige work , to please him . He refused to give her a chance but ran and ran after the ex who dumped him . She is a young girl who has an unloving husband who makes ridiculous promises . Even older women would be confused about their pregnancy in such a case . Her villainous deeds like the famous deal and the party tamasha were upfront but he lied to her , projected Purvi's thoughts as his own and instead of asking for a divorce asked her for a second chance at marraige . Both the times ...after the deal and the tamasha at the party , ARVI could have shown a united front and gone for a divorce but it was their decision to continue in this marraige by giving her false hope this time .

If she does not deserve to be a mother after the terrible unhappiness her young shoulders have taken , what will one say of Purvi who is bringing a life into this world by not even informing the real father who can give it a much better standard of living ...Arjun can even send the child to Oxford later but she cannot on a meagre salary however independent she is . He may be debatable as a husband and a lover but its his baby too and he deserves to know ...the law says that issues cannot be mixed , he deserves to know , its not Purvi's decision to make ...his relation with the baby is different and his relation with Purvi is different . The two cannot be mixed . The baby desrves to know his real father , not Dr Onir Dutta according to Purvi's wish . She can even marry Onir for all i care but the baby desrves to know his real dad and if the real dad can provide better for him Purvi's nonsense of self respect should bot block his way . Purvi can be all self respecting she wants , she cannot and should not come in the way of the baby and Arjun . What do u call such a mother who knowingly brings a baby illegitimately in the world and then deprives it of everything , even its real father .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Again with the 'It's Arjuns fault' 'It's Ovi's fault' 'It's Purvi's fault'!!
Going by logic, It's is the fault of each and every person in PR.
Would you get pregnant before marriage? Nope right? (Purvi)
Would you get pregnant to a man who claims to love another? No? Thought not. (Ovi)
Would you fall into bed with a woman (or man) you resent whilst you love another? Nope you surely wouldn't. (Arjun)
Would you force your lover to marry your sister on your wedding day? No I know I wouldn't. (Purvi)
Would you hand over a wad of money to your sister stating that you would like to buy your hone wale jeeju off her? No, it's unthinkable and downright gutter material. (Ovi)
Would you marry your fiance's sister in front of said fiance because she told you to and then blame the entire fiasco on said fiance for abandoning you at the 11th hour? How spineless can one man be? Surely Arjun had the right to decline the offer and refuse to even marry Purvi until she had calmed down with her demands?
Let me tell you one thing, making a baby does not cement a shaky marriage. In fact they are damn on their way to making their marriage even more shaky, with children into the equation, Arjun and Ovi will be spending even less time with each other and more time at work and with screaming kids, so basically no romance time and no me time. To cement a shaky marriage you NEED to do things together, spend some quality time together and just be together ALONE and that requires both parties to be cooperative.
I understand Ovi's frustration I really do but she is just too immature for her age, women also have rights to divorce a man, so why is Ovi putting up with all this nonsense? WHY in the name of God would you want to shack up with a spineless gut of a man who only thinks of his nether regions, his equipment or family jewels so to speak.
I surely wouldn't want a man to give me my wife rights just because his ex told him to! No if ever I do marry and sleep with someone then I would want ALL his love. Why would you sleep with a man you know for sure is imagining the face of his EX whilst he is rolling around in the sack with you? I do wonder if Ovi wasn't put off by that notion. It's not about wether you have the rights to open or close your legs, yes you do have a right, it's a legal aspect of marriage, but the emotions that go with intercourse SHOULD be there, otherwise it would just be an empty shell of a thing, an emotionless piece of movement, something to satisfy your own needs rather than your partners needs.
A strong bond and a strong attraction needs to be forged before intercourse in a marriage.
Why is Arjun always to blame. ALL of them are. A succession of actions from ALL three led to the current situation. If Karma hits one then it should hit all THREE of them.
Some of you are so well educated on this forum and I can't believe that each one of you is pro only one character when each character of PR is and still are full of many flaws.
If Arjun did indeed sleep with Ovi then I hope to god that Purvi in actual fact will be pregnant with Dr Onir's baby. Why should Arjun be the only one to sleep around?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^^^^ Superb post Kools...Totally agree with each word..👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Wouldn't say that . Constantly saying that she entered a loveless marraige so she must suffer for life is not right in my opinion . She did try her best to make the marraige work , to please him . He refused to give her a chance but ran and ran after the ex who dumped him . She is a young girl who has an unloving husband who makes ridiculous promises . Even older women would be confused about their pregnancy in such a case . Her villainous deeds like the famous deal and the party tamasha were upfront but he lied to her , projected Purvi's thoughts as his own and instead of asking for a divorce asked her for a second chance at marraige . Both the times ...after the deal and the tamasha at the party , ARVI could have shown a united front and gone for a divorce but it was their decision to continue in this marraige by giving her false hope this time .


If she does not deserve to be a mother after the terrible unhappiness her young shoulders have taken , what will one say of Purvi who is bringing a life into this world by not even informing the real father who can give it a much better standard of living ...Arjun can even send the child to Oxford later but she cannot on a meagre salary however independent she is . He may be debatable as a husband and a lover but its his baby too and he deserves to know ...the law says that issues cannot be mixed , he deserves to know , its not Purvi's decision to make ...his relation with the baby is different and his relation with Purvi is different . The two cannot be mixed . The baby desrves to know his real father , not Dr Onir Dutta according to Purvi's wish . She can even marry Onir for all i care but the baby desrves to know his real dad and if the real dad can provide better for him Purvi's nonsense of self respect should bot block his way . Purvi can be all self respecting she wants , she cannot and should not come in the way of the baby and Arjun . What do u call such a mother who knowingly brings a baby illegitimately in the world and then deprives it of everything , even its real father .

dont confuse money,wealth and prestige school to be a better living standard for a child...what a child needs is a loving nurturing family and environment.adults to love ,protect and safeguard them from harm...could arjun really give purvi's child that??what do u call so called educated people who feels a woman's identity and sole existence depends on a man????there are advantages and disadvantages of single parenting just as with 2parents household...but seriously would it be in the bst interest of purvi's child to be with its real father when the step mother is the aunt ???stop thinking from the parents mistakes and start thinking from a child's perspective...and it is sad when it comes to educated people or people with sense to be putting money and wealth above a child's security,love and safe environment...anyone can have a child due to biology but it takes a mature loving man or woman to be a father or mother
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i'm reading some of the post here and all i can see is blame for Arjun,blame for Purvi and alot of sympaty for Ovi.

Ovi-the girl who wanted to kill herself for Arjun,the girl who put forth the deal,one person even commented the girl Arjun will send to her grave and give Purvi her child,i have zero sympaty for her if she didn't no Arjun loved another woman then but she knew.she wanted him and she got him but his heart still belongs to another woman.what she is getting she deserve and thats wat happen wen u ask for something that shouldn't be urs.
Purvi-i respect her she has made bad decisions but no one can ignore that after promising Ovi she didn't deliver,she keep pushing Arjun to Ovi and she left everything behind for her.the decision to agree to the deal was stupid but at that time she thought abt all Archana had done for her and that i respect.
Arjun-the man in love with one woman but married to another,his love for Purvi has put him in a loveless marriage but Purvi is not to blame since he agree where he could have said no.
there is another comment Purvi is denying her child the right to know his/her father and a chance at Oxford,if Purvi came to Arjun and said i'm pregnant with ur child and he decides to leave Ovi to be with her we'll blast Purvi saying she's coming between Arjun,Ovi and Ovi baby.
Purvi is not the only one at fault,some ppl would like to tink so but Ovi is equally at fault, had Purvi not let Arjun married ovi she would have been dead as he was about to commit suicide,then everyone and the whole family would've hated her.she did the best she thought in the situation if some of us would just look at it both ways.
Karma is a b***h and it is bitting Ovi,as i said earlier she deserve it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good post Sherma. Being confused about bringing a child into an unusual home environment is right, and in fact should be considered strongly. Even if arjun and ovi were a couple happily in love with each other, but both wanted to focus on their careers--it's completely ok to consider aborting a fetus rather than giving birth to the baby and then neglecting it due to career or resenting the baby for having to forgo other things like career in order to care for the baby. After all, they're both very very young and should not have even married so young, even if you for a moment forget about their convoluted story. And an unborn fetus as a mass of cells feels much less pain than a child.

And there's really no evidence that the pregnancy was planned or due to unprotected sex, since no form of protected sex is 100% reliable. Factor in the especially virile characters in TV soaps, and you have unplanned pregnancies all over the place. After all, even purvi's supposed pregnancy is the result of a one-time event-- even I who sees arjun and purvi with utter disdain will accept that they were not regularly engaging in sex before or after arjun-ovi's marriage. As for how ovi could sleep with arjun knowing that he was doing it on purvi's orders, he didn't really tell her he was doing it because purvi told him to. Instead he told ovi that he had made a mistake, apologized for it and asked her for another chance at their marriage. And she did. Looks like it's only later that she's realized the guy's gone cuckoo, and has no intention on working on anything whatsoever.

Having said that, all 3 are at fault here in the mess and equally to blame. However, I support Ovi coz whatever she is, she's upfront. And she's real! The rest are caricatures at their worst. I would have a little respect for arjun if only he showed some integrity at some point. Instead, he's giving evasive replies to his wife when she asks if he loves her and talking to purvi's bhoot about how awesome she is. Has purvi hypnotized him or something? His condition is not normal. If he would just stand up and say he's done; I will respect him even if I dont support him. What a wimp!

And am I glad that Ovi's stopped being servile to this guy and started showing her disdain. What she sees in him I have no idea-- she deserves much, much better. I'm loving her attitude and sarcasm; and I'm completely digging the acting. The girl can act and how! Wasn't impressed by any of the newcomers in the beginning, but the girl playing ovi has become very, very good in what she does. And honestly, her character has more range than any other character in the show, and it's refreshing to see that the actress can carry off all these different shades some of which are in the darker grey than light, and still make me identify and sympathize with her. I wonder how much of that is the writing, the acting or my own perception 😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well, I wanted to write a post on kids and their ability to cement parent's relationship for a while now.

So, may be this is my POV. My belief is that kids do cement parents together even to this day, as they did a century before and will do for countless centuries to come. A parent when they first have a kid, their whole perspective changes. Granted for a mom, it starts right after conception. For a dad, when he see his child for the first time (although the feeling of an unknown love start as soon as he hears of the pregnancy). But as soon as he sees the child, his world just changes, and examples are plenty that a child changes his dad. My husband who was a chain smoker quit smoking the moment he saw my toddler playing with a cigarette. That is the power of a child. We only hear divorces because it happens, whereas, there are countless examples that marriages that were doomed to begin with, started working after a child is born. Since, the power of a child is invisible; one fails to see the huge effect and changes people makes (including sacrifices) and goes through for that a few month old kid. It is the strongest and most pavitra relationship ever and never ever breaks, no matter what. And I actually agree with what Savita said today.

Now, why I wanted to Ovi to go for that Divorce after being preggo?😉 Well, can one imagine the power Ovi will have on Arjun and his empire? The custody battle will assure Ovi of draining Kirslokars of their wealth, and the Arjun who will be left will be very much conflicted, confused and demoralized (that is the outcome of a lengthy divorce which is given as the divorce will happen during Preggo state). No, country/court (under the direction of Ovi and her lawyer) anywhere in the world will let Arjun have a peaceful moment. Now, a poster post on my comment and said, that Ovi should suffer for wanting the marriage. Ovi wanted the marriage to begin with, but it was Arjun who parroted those words of 'making the marriage work' after the big tamasha. So, Arjun also opted for the same 'loveless' marriage. So, how is Ovi only responsible now? Besides, Arjun had plenty of chances to opt out of the loveless arrangement, especially after his very public declaration, so why did he not do so? What is true for the goose is true for the gander too, isn't it? So, why use different parameters?

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