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Posted: 13 years ago
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If Arjun is to be blamed of not getting out of a loveless marriage... Couldn't Ovi do the same? Both are legible to do so... What woman would stay in a marriage where the spouse is in love with another person?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Kalapi darling loved your post...The first Para is simply superb about the baby and 2nd para is perfect answer to Ovi's problem..
Divorce the dude and let him rott in misery while Ovi takes him thru the cleaners...And No court in the world would take that baby away from OVI the mother..May be then he will realize and appreciate Ovi's love and the her being mother of his child..
Sowmya superb post 👏...COmpletely agree...All 3 at fault but I understand Ovi's stand-dilemma..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Caribbeanchic: Instead of a divorce, Arjun went to Ovi and asked her for a second chance to make their marriage work. Bear in mind here that she did not know that he had gotten permission from his ex to have sex with her.
Obviously, Ovi will have sex with him. The girl believes that their marriage is being given a chance. I don't know why they didn't use precaution but it is what it is. Arjun should never have asked for that chance knowing that in his heart, he didn't want her. At the end of the day, Ovi was his friend from childhood and deserved much better than to be taken for a ride.
Arjun should have been a man and shouted at Purvi {like he did to Ovi} that he is sick of being her puppet. If she doesn't want to be with him then fine but he is divorcing Ovi because they are not happy and deserves better.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Good post Sherma. Being confused about bringing a child into an unusual home environment is right, and in fact should be considered strongly. Even if arjun and ovi were a couple happily in love with each other, but both wanted to focus on their careers--it's completely ok to consider aborting a fetus rather than giving birth to the baby and then neglecting it due to career or resenting the baby for having to forgo other things like career in order to care for the baby. After all, they're both very very young and should not have even married so young, even if you for a moment forget about their convoluted story. And an unborn fetus as a mass of cells feels much less pain than a child.

And there's really no evidence that the pregnancy was planned or due to unprotected sex, since no form of protected sex is 100% reliable. Factor in the especially virile characters in TV soaps, and you have unplanned pregnancies all over the place. After all, even purvi's supposed pregnancy is the result of a one-time event-- even I who sees arjun and purvi with utter disdain will accept that they were not regularly engaging in sex before or after arjun-ovi's marriage. As for how ovi could sleep with arjun knowing that he was doing it on purvi's orders, he didn't really tell her he was doing it because purvi told him to. Instead he told ovi that he had made a mistake, apologized for it and asked her for another chance at their marriage. And she did. Looks like it's only later that she's realized the guy's gone cuckoo, and has no intention on working on anything whatsoever.

Having said that, all 3 are at fault here in the mess and equally to blame. However, I support Ovi coz whatever she is, she's upfront. And she's real! The rest are caricatures at their worst. I would have a little respect for arjun if only he showed some integrity at some point. Instead, he's giving evasive replies to his wife when she asks if he loves her and talking to purvi's bhoot about how awesome she is. Has purvi hypnotized him or something? His condition is not normal. If he would just stand up and say he's done; I will respect him even if I dont support him. What a wimp!

And am I glad that Ovi's stopped being servile to this guy and started showing her disdain. What she sees in him I have no idea-- she deserves much, much better. I'm loving her attitude and sarcasm; and I'm completely digging the acting. The girl can act and how! Wasn't impressed by any of the newcomers in the beginning, but the girl playing ovi has become very, very good in what she does. And honestly, her character has more range than any other character in the show, and it's refreshing to see that the actress can carry off all these different shades some of which are in the darker grey than light, and still make me identify and sympathize with her. I wonder how much of that is the writing, the acting or my own perception 😳

Sowyma.👏👏

I agree with all ur post, but especially the underlined. To me, Arjun needs help both psychological and counseling more than anything.

Today, I don't blame Ovi at all for her disdain. Arjun has earned it. I totally can see where Ovi is coming from. And this girl Shruti is absolutely fab 👏👏, yes, even I wonder, my appreciation of her acting - how much of it is direction and/or my perception of the character...

Edited by Kalapi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Kalapi darling loved your post...The first Para is simply superb about the baby and 2nd para is perfect answer to Ovi's problem..

Divorce the dude and let him rott in misery while Ovi takes him thru the cleaners...And No court in the world would take that baby away from OVI the mother..May be then he will realize and appreciate Ovi's love and the her being mother of his child..

Varsha, a divorce like this will drained Arjun on all counts😆 and he will hardly have the energy to think about his past bhootni, let along talk with her😉...I really want Ovi and Cv to really show us the true 'divorce' and Custody world, it is merciless and the alimony is huge, it will be a public and full blown showdown for everyone to watch...
Edited by Kalapi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
I am not stating my opinion but merely what the law demands

No one here is saying a woman has to depend on a man

If a woman like Purvi feels she need not be married and that she has the capacity to be a single parent she does not have to be married to Arjun or any guy

Her choice entirely

but even while staying seperate from the father it is her duty to tell the father that its his child , accept his visitation rights and his wish to be part of his child's life and his wish to provide if he wishes to for his child . The child was not conceived immaculately , it takes 2 to make a baby . Whether the mother wishes it or no the father has an equal right over the child and this goes for both the women ...Purvi and Ovi .

If the mother wants the father to be out of the child's life , she must contest that in court .
Here there has been no domestic abuse or unwillingness of the father to take responsibility ...the father just does not know

That is a crime and if brought to light Purvi can lose the rights over her child .

The court does consider monetary strenght , like it or not , as an asset to the child's upbringing . If Purvi is an unwed mom , with a job or no job , Arjun is a millionaire with a family ...his father and wife r with him . He will win the case and it is Purvi who will have visitation rights . The court will consider what Purvi can give the child and if it finds that

she has not even told the father about the child's existence

she is giving the child an illegitimate status as against Arjun who is willing to make it legitimate

that Arjun's monetary capacity is higher

that he is a good provider with no record of any sort

he will get custody or at least visitation rights to the child . Whats more the court will reprimand Purvi for not telling him and concealing vital facts from him .

Regarding the loving and nurturing environment , i have other opinions . Hearing taunts of illegitimacy and growing up alone in society is hardly loving nuturing enironment . Purvi has fled from her family so the child will hardly know his families . His father he won't know due to the obstinacy of his mother who would mix the self integrity issue with his life . The child does not deserve any of this , period .






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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#38
Guys take a chill pill! I don't understand either why everyone is blaming arjun for everything. I think it's pretty much everyone's fault. First of all ovi being a mad doll that wanted to buy arjun any cost despite of knowing that he loves someone else. Love is all about freeing the person not buying them for any reason. If that's was happening why didn't mahaan maa archana didn't say anything or make her understand that whatever she was doing is wrong or give purvi the right understanding to not let arjun go because of her. Why did everyone took ovi's side just because she is the real daughter of the desmuks family. It's not only arjun to be blamed but everyone are at fault to some point. Because all of them are in a same boat, by supporting the wrong decision.

Aside from this issue of who is at fault and who is not. Guys at the end this is just a soap that entertains audience. Arman fans enjoyed them when their track was held up to be solved and we all supported them. Why don't we do the samething for Arvis. Instead of picking garbage from this track. Let Cvs show what they have stored for us. And raha sawal arjun and purvi taking the leads. I don't think that they are taking Armans place. The montage of pavitra rishta always changes with a new track. So what's the big deal if the montage is changed to ovi-arjun-purvi..? Please don't trash Arvis track. It could have happen to arman as well and I am sure all of Armans fans would have enjoyed just watching them. Lets do fair to Arvis too. We want them to be together. So lets see how wil that happen 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good post Sherma. Being confused about bringing a child into an unusual home environment is right, and in fact should be considered strongly. Even if arjun and ovi were a couple happily in love with each other, but both wanted to focus on their careers--it's completely ok to consider aborting a fetus rather than giving birth to the baby and then neglecting it due to career or resenting the baby for having to forgo other things like career in order to care for the baby. After all, they're both very very young and should not have even married so young, even if you for a moment forget about their convoluted story. And an unborn fetus as a mass of cells feels much less pain than a child.

And there's really no evidence that the pregnancy was planned or due to unprotected sex, since no form of protected sex is 100% reliable. Factor in the especially virile characters in TV soaps, and you have unplanned pregnancies all over the place. After all, even purvi's supposed pregnancy is the result of a one-time event-- even I who sees arjun and purvi with utter disdain will accept that they were not regularly engaging in sex before or after arjun-ovi's marriage. As for how ovi could sleep with arjun knowing that he was doing it on purvi's orders, he didn't really tell her he was doing it because purvi told him to. Instead he told ovi that he had made a mistake, apologized for it and asked her for another chance at their marriage. And she did. Looks like it's only later that she's realized the guy's gone cuckoo, and has no intention on working on anything whatsoever.

Having said that, all 3 are at fault here in the mess and equally to blame. However, I support Ovi coz whatever she is, she's upfront. And she's real! The rest are caricatures at their worst. I would have a little respect for arjun if only he showed some integrity at some point. Instead, he's giving evasive replies to his wife when she asks if he loves her and talking to purvi's bhoot about how awesome she is. Has purvi hypnotized him or something? His condition is not normal. If he would just stand up and say he's done; I will respect him even if I dont support him. What a wimp!

And am I glad that Ovi's stopped being servile to this guy and started showing her disdain. What she sees in him I have no idea-- she deserves much, much better. I'm loving her attitude and sarcasm; and I'm completely digging the acting. The girl can act and how! Wasn't impressed by any of the newcomers in the beginning, but the girl playing ovi has become very, very good in what she does. And honestly, her character has more range than any other character in the show, and it's refreshing to see that the actress can carry off all these different shades some of which are in the darker grey than light, and still make me identify and sympathize with her. I wonder how much of that is the writing, the acting or my own perception 😳

She knew the fellow did not love her but she , like many girls thought she could make him love her, that might have been possible had he not admitted thta he was in love with someone else. Purvi is just as bad, playing football with Arjun's emotions...she had no right to feed him that stupid line' if you love me you will...'and he's stupid for listening to eithe rone of them.as for having sex, im sure it was mutual and consensual...the guy was just trying to make his marriage work by giving her all her rights as a wife (he promised Purvi).he never promised to fall in love with her, did he?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Well, I wanted to write a post on kids and their ability to cement parent's relationship for a while now.

So, may be this is my POV. My belief is that kids do cement parents together even to this day, as they did a century before and will do for countless centuries to come. A parent when they first have a kid, their whole perspective changes. Granted for a mom, it starts right after conception. For a dad, when he see his child for the first time (although the feeling of an unknown love start as soon as he hears of the pregnancy). But as soon as he sees the child, his world just changes, and examples are plenty that a child changes his dad. My husband who was a chain smoker quit smoking the moment he saw my toddler playing with a cigarette. That is the power of a child. We only hear divorces because it happens, whereas, there are countless examples that marriages that were doomed to begin with, started working after a child is born. Since, the power of a child is invisible; one fails to see the huge effect and changes people makes (including sacrifices) and goes through for that a few month old kid. It is the strongest and most pavitra relationship ever and never ever breaks, no matter what. And I actually agree with what Savita said today.

Now, why I wanted to Ovi to go for that Divorce after being preggo?😉 Well, can one imagine the power Ovi will have on Arjun and his empire? The custody battle will assure Ovi of draining Kirslokars of their wealth, and the Arjun who will be left will be very much conflicted, confused and demoralized (that is the outcome of a lengthy divorce which is given as the divorce will happen during Preggo state). No, country/court (under the direction of Ovi and her lawyer) anywhere in the world will let Arjun have a peaceful moment. Now, a poster post on my comment and said, that Ovi should suffer for wanting the marriage. Ovi wanted the marriage to begin with, but it was Arjun who parroted those words of 'making the marriage work' after the big tamasha. So, Arjun also opted for the same 'loveless' marriage. So, how is Ovi only responsible now? Besides, Arjun had plenty of chances to opt out of the loveless arrangement, especially after his very public declaration, so why did he not do so? What is true for the goose is true for the gander too, isn't it? So, why use different parameters?

I really respect your answer but don't agree with alot of it. In the realistic world it's not all candyfloss and cream. Divorces happen and children are ripped apart from parents who don't give a damn about their childrens feelings. Yes in serials we see children cement their parents relationship but not in the real world. In the real world people hate and have affairs. It's the balancing power of this world that we live in. I don't know about india but in the UK we have a thing called Social Services and millions of children arre displaced. I know many a family who have to travel long distances to see their children.
Why should children be the people to cement someone elses marriage? Why put such a heavy load/responsibility onto small shoulders?
If a marriage is going to work then it will work no matter what, they, the two people who married have to keep working on it.
I don't understand why Ovi should have custody over the child in the first place. She doesn't want the child. So why not place it into care? Either way both Arjun and Ovi will realise the importance of the child one way or another, sooner or later.
I totally agree with all posters that a divorce should happen but I beg the question, if Ovi was really against him talking to the ghost of Purvi and generally acting mental then why does she not file for a divorce? I don't see why it should be up to a MAN to give a divorce.
I certainly wouldn't want to come into this world with parents like Ovi and Arjun. Neither of them are mature enough to understand the greatest responsibility that they are about to undertake. Becoming parents.

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