Contradictions again......

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Posted: 14 years ago
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So, another day has passed in PR land......updates and discussions have been posted......

Here I am again, with a horde of contradictions......and opinions.....(mostly all wrong)....but its free, so am generous with them😉......
There seems to be a lot of heated discussions regarding Manav-Savita-Archana.......the thrust of the arguments being about Indian values.....great Indian mother-son relationship....how Archana has to SHOW Manav the correct way to behave with his mother....the great Indian viewer not accepting it because it goes against his basic thinking etc..etc...
There was also mention of how Manav was romancing Archana.....at the cost of ignoring or not taking care of his mother......
Only love begets more love......basic and fundamental rule in life......nothing to do with Indian or any other value system.....No relationship can survive if it is one-sided.....ever heard of a one-hand taali????.....Also, Manav is a grown-up man....he earns....he has all the self-respect and ego that any normal man would have......His great fault?????....he loves his mother and wife...... Now, here I have an argument - everyone who reads this must think of their own lives - when you are in love (new relationships).....do/did you lie to your parents to meet or be with your loved one???..... did you think it was because you disrespected your parents? or was it because you simply loved that special person so much.....
Some / many may disagree/agree with me here......but GOD has made it such that a man/woman relationship is the primary relatio nship in life...... it is possibly not fair to one's parents.....but once a person gets married.....his wife and kids become his primary family....Now, I am not talking cultural here.....its human.....its GOD created..... People live/die in love.... In our Indian culture, a wife is called Ardhangini.....she is the half of the man..... it is her right and the man's responsibility to get her due respect in society and his family.....
I am not advocating that a person leave his parents and become rude/irresponsible towards them....... All I am saying, is that Manav's demand is not unreasonable......and he seems to be repeatedly trying to bridge his relationship with Savita.....If she keeps thwarting him - but naturally he will keep moving farther away.....try it with a small child..... shout at him and keep pushing him away - even if you are the mother......the child will first try to come to you, but then will find other ways/people to cry to......its natural.....
While i agree that being a patriarchical society....a man must look after his family first.....but however, doesn't one call his wife's parents mummy/daddy too?....why???..... What I am seeing is that Manav and Archana are simply keeping normal relations as anyone would with their in-laws.... calling them regularly.....inviting them/wanting to be with them on festive occasions.... being with them in their happiness/sorrows....... it possible seems to be "too much" when compared to his 'spoilt' relations with his own mother...... he also seems to correctly read his mother's reactions incase he was to call her.... when he did call her- she pushed him away......
If this had been the case under 'normal' conditions...... calling the in-laws first and then one's own parents..... then there was a point to argue/debate......under such circumstances..... I think there is nothing 'abnormal'.......
As regards the romancing bit......I think holding it against them is being petty......such 'needs' form part of mankind's "BASIC" needs alongwith food/clothing/shelter....... again it was not like they were ROMANCING.....while the mother was in the hospital or so......
I repeat.....Savita starting a business is part of her tamasha nature......to put Manav down in front of people who know and respect him.....she has no finer feelings......while he has a heart of gold still.....he is trying in his own way to help her despite her speaking ill of him publicly.....
At the end of the day......every man/woman needs love and affection and acceptance...... constant rejection can be very tiring....even when it is from one's mother.....
This is not about Indian values.....this is about mis-understandings (him helping/trying to get closer to her - her not being aware of it)......this is about a relationship gone sour because of ego and inflexibility......why can't Savita accept Archana???.....despite everything....she is the ideal wife for Manav - she is from the same community....he loves her like mad.....she is a good woman... good character.....good home-maker......
To grow old....means to be more flexible....to be more understanding of your child's needs..... simply making unreasonable demands..... ruining your own health.....putting others at risk (sachin)......ruining your son's married life..... is the real IRRESPONSIBILITY here......
We have a saying in gujarati....Raja ne gami Rani.... chhaana vinti aani..... which means - the the one the king likes is only the queen - even if she is the one selling cowdung......
Manav loves Archana..... Savita must accept her and move on....... If Archana and Manav are willing to forgive and forget......why can't she??????

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Malinn I agree with your post.. This Mother-Son track is dragging a lot.. Why cant Savita Aai compromise on this?? Any mother wants her son to be happy and so is her son with Archu.. I still cant justify her stubborness.. I know she is ill but there is a cure ready but she is not ready to take it.. I can feel sympathy but not empathy.

But the business part I thought she was doing to forget Manav.. I know she loves to create tamasha but this time they showed that she can forget Manav only if she is busy and after that she will come out with this plan.. Though I feel she had many options to be busy.. She has Sachu who is very small and needs caring.. She can dedicate her time to him and I feel being with a small kid you can forget anything and everything.. Children have the power to make you laugh and also cry.. They are special gift of God..
I also agree with you on the romance part.. I dont think people will stop living thinking of the problems.. Whats wrong if Manav spends some time with his loved one..
In the same episode we also saw Sathish consoling his wife and spending time with her though he knows his mom is not happy and angry.. He did not go to his mom to say sorry or anything.. Why are we not blaming him??
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Posted: 14 years ago
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aww..great posts..malinn and archana..😎...great job guys..i was dying to see romance..some had problem with that..i didn't knew..😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks Rachna and ArchanaManav......

I agree with you Rachna..... Again, history says that Savita was never a great mother (wrong of me to wrong a mother)...... But this is for the sake of the argument..... Savita stole from Manav and lied to him...... She used her son Sachin to patao Shravani for money..... She herself separated another mother from her son (Shravani)..... She kept Archana and Manav physically apart when they were first married..... Etc etc etc......

Again, I am not for or against any characters...... All I feel is that there seems to be a lot of mis-reading and mis-understanding of this serial and it's characters..... It is getting skewed under some exaggerated Indian value system..... In-laws v/s mother..... Romance v/s mother...... Helping v/s troubling (Manav sending customers)..... Till yesterday there were prayers for Savita to find success in her business.... Today, it's too much for her!!!!!!...... I guess there is no right path one can take.....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am also dying to see romance ...☺️
So fed up with the current track ...😵
Usha , both you and I are suckers for Arman romance .... what to do ....
Great post again Malinn....
But the only part I don't agree with is Savita doing this to put down Manav ...I think she does genuinely wants to keep busy .However she knows that by her stand she is hurting Manav a lot but that just doesn't matter to her at this point how much her son is getting hurt .At any cost she wants to do away with Archana right now ....
Manav loves Archana..... Savita must accept her and move on....... If Archana and Manav are willing to forgive and forget......why can't she??????
I can't wait to see this happen soon ....
I read somwhere that this week Archana will be going to the Deshmukh house to live ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Excellent post again. agree with everything you said. My opinion Manav has done moooooooooore than he should. He should completely ignore savita and live his life... so what if she is his mother.
she is wrong. no one should support wrong. let her suffer the pain that she is causing herself. It is so sick to watch manav's behaviour these days... stop being bacha.... act like matured man. Work on improving your life.... provide better life to your wife... she went through so much for you.
Archana should stop forcing him to go talk to his mother.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks Tanyaz..... Here I will grant that you could be right.... She is a mother and distressed about her son..... There is no doubt that she loves Manav and is making herself sick..... Possibly she is making Archana to be a huge villain in her mind over all this..... What I meant was that way she approaches all her problems is by doing tamasha.... Since it is part of her nature and who she is...... She would not not have deliberately started out to put down Manav..... But, historically, she has always attacked all problems like this.....

But then again, what I see in a situation can always be different from what you see.... And both of us can be right.... Since the truth is only known to Savita herself..... For everybody else.... It's simply a POV......
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Posted: 14 years ago
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that we are guruji..arman romance was absent for couple of weeks now..😔..finally one they decided to show..🤓..
it is hard to do both house work and outside work like that in that old age..easier said than done..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Romance seems to rule your world archanamanav...... It's cute....
malinn thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Karsari...... 😊

You made a super valid point here..... What is wrong will always be wrong..... Our entire Geeta is based on this message that Lord Krishna gave Arjun..... It doesn't matter who is opposite you.... Your relationship with that person..... You must only side what is right.....

Loving and respecting your mom is as important as loving and respecting your wife...... That relationship is also important.....

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