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Originally posted by: stillhopeful
mogga:
while we generally agree on most characters in the show I think you and I have a slightly different take on one character. feel free to correct me if I am wrong😃
dharmesh
I think he is a very good businessman - practical sharp and risk averse
I think he a very good husband - caring indulgent yet firm
I think he is a good son- in- law - he has always treated his inlaws with respect (just like Satish and Manav)
I think his intervention in the archu situation was a logical move to improve the situation
here is where I think (not absolutely sure) we might differ
as a person he is overbearing
his intervention was less well meaning (in relation to archua nd Ks) and more a strategi move for business reasons - he needs the Archana Manav issue resolved asap so that the nautanki at his workplace will cease and business can progres. this nautanki is affecting his operations and therefore his bottom line. I cannot appreciate his reasons though I can appreciate the positive impact of his actions in progressing one woman's stagnant life.
re satish I think he is an emotional fool (much as i love him - this may be his downfall on the personal and professional front) yet what he said to varsha was in my mind very sensible not emotional. Archu has to make decision herself. the family can suggest and advice but SHOULD NOT pressurize her.
anyways that is just my though.
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Hope
No Hope we don't differ . Dharmesh took this step for a variety of reasons .
1] He was in the best position to know how badnaam Archana was getting ........her closeted family who is generally within four walls of flat doesnt know how tongues r wagging at all . Neither do they see maramaris done over her as f she was Helen of Troy .
2] This time people went to hospital level . Next time they might just dIE .
3] His business was getting adversely affected , and he cud not fire both of them . He knew that it was kinda not their fault .
4] Being Practical , he paused in his busy life and for the first time tried to handle an emotional problem with his business minded razor mind . This situation is a stalemate ..he concluded . How does one break it ? The answer was get Archna married . Tongues wud stop wagging , fights over her will cease as a single divorcee is psychologically more of a candy to men than a married one .[ Im speaking strictly by serial standards .In reality men eye even married women .]
5] That said , he had his own fondness for Archu as vaishus sister and was her well wisher . Dharmu is not like Savita. He has that exceedingly fair bone in his body that does not permit him to be selfish . { see how he gave Manav his job back ] . What he cannot tolerate is emotional silly behaviour that benefits no one . Dharmu doesnt waste time as time for him is money .
6] When he spotted Jay in the pooja it was clearly SUDDEN .That shows he has nOT done this preplaned way for BUSINESS . It was while doing the poooja that he saw Jay and Archu side by side and it struck him that they looked good as a couple. Then the thought got hold of him and since he didnt waste time he immediately talked to sulochna.
7] His personal liking for JAy is because he sees efficiency , ambition and drive and practical reasoning in him ...........and he banked on this practical reasoning of his to say yES to Archu ...........he knew Jay was not the type to make an issue of the divorcee status but wud weigh the pros and cons .
And he was proven right .............See Jays reasoning and how he said yes .
All In all , I dont think Dharmesh had any ulterior motive in wanting Archu to get married at all . Archu is rather lucky to have him .
Dharmesh comes across as uptight and highhanded at times . I agree to that .But I like his hardness . He is refreshing .
He has NOTHING personal against Manav . But then he is not personally involved in Manav either .like Satish is .Satish is clearly emotional about Manav . He gives him special consideration .
As far as Sulo and Savita go , I concur with ur views there too .Thats why i said .........Sulo is fully within her rights to worry for her daughter but way out of line to talk to him this way after the history they have together and what he did for them to date . As far as Savita goes , I said She shud just shut up , she has done enough .
I'll tell u what pissed me about Sulo .
It was the way she talked to Manav .......as if she had a RIGHT of some sorts to fire him . She doesn't .Plain and simple .
AS u said she can ask Manavs help to convince her daughter ...as a mom she can go to that extent . What she doesnt have is the right to demand it .
She has no right to call him SWARTHI . Manav may be a lot of things......dumb slow .........confused , what he is most emphatically nOT is SWARTHI . Oh boy , no way .
But Sulochna at times has been pretty , pretty selfish . When she pushed for divorce ..........she had NOT bothered to sit and have a heart talk with her daughter and ask her what HER feelings were about divorcing . Not once mind u .She had not liked this rishta from the beginning and was motivated by her absolute natural dislike for it . She was to a certain extent justified there too coz she witnessed SAvitas abuse and dowry demands . My point is ...she did NOT talk to her daughter . As it happens her daughter burst out like a volcano on her engagement to Satish day and told her she wud have prefrred a NO DIVORCE situation in which something cud have been worked out .
Even NOW she is going behind her daughters back . SAME MISTAKE . If her daughter is not in her hands , under hER control , but under the thumb of another man ..........its HER problem , not that man's . Just as a saas unfairly blames the BAHU for making her son a joru ka gulaam , but NEVER her own son for ditching her and opting to do so , Sulochna is conveniently putting ALL blame on Manav . The blunt truth is ..........Archana is crazy about Manav and loves Manav much more than Manav can ever love her . She simply loves him , thats it . That kind of love is irrational , and can be the strength or weakness or both of a human being .Krishna has it in Pratigya and Archu has it in PR .
Sulochna has made all kinds of excuses for Manju's selfishness and not once called her SWARTHI to her face . In fact she purposefully overlooked her blatant greed and lied to Manohar and Archu that TUMHARI BAHU MUJHE BAHUT ACHE SE RAKHTI HAI < MERA KHAYAL KARTI HAI . And she had the gall to call Manav SWARTHI . I swear hope , I wanted to smack her chubby face at that moment .
When Archu returned after one year of being away , This Sulochna just gave the charge of the house to Archu and ran off to do Manju seva , plonking hER RESPONSIBILITIES oF HER HUSBAND [ MANOHAR} on Archus shoulders . How about
1] Wanting to spend time with a daughter u missed for a whole year
2] Being there for her when for the first time in life she is handling a new job with a high position ...........just being there for her
3] After noticing that her ex is there in same company , and knowing how sentimental her daughter is , being there to guide her how to be practical and firm and move on rather than getting re involved
4] Wondering about daughters future , looking for suitable rishtas secretly . Trying to find a nice , broad minded man .
Who needed her more ..........Punni or Archu ? Punni was fine with her parents in hER house . Sulochna was not even interested in seeing how her third daughter was doing ...who was newly married .She didnt have the etiquette to even grace her functions , uncaring about how her sasural will feel .
Without Sulos guidance , Archu , who was emotional about Manav ran totally amok when she was away . She went on getting emotionally more and more involved in Manav . Damodar consistently stands by Manavs side to guide him whether he wants his guidance or not ..........Sulo is never near Archu , only Manjus side . ALWAYS , even NOW . What Damodar does is PARENTING what SULO DOES IS USING .
She used Archu in her illness to manage the house ...later did NOT bother to send her to school so she cud give Manju readymade tiffins in the morning .
Now she used her to dump her responsibilities of looking after Manohar in old age and ran off to have a gala time with her grandkids . Neither does she love Manohar suffieciently enough nor Archu .
Ultimately a third person looked out for Archu .......and now she is putting all blame on Manav ? Manav who saved her butt countless times .
Everytime she calls him BETA when it is convenient and does a flipflop when it is NOT .She has a bloody HISTORY . On Varshas engagement day she did SAME THING .
The truth is ........she takes advantage of Manavs decency . Both Varsha and Sulo need Dharmesh as husband and damaad ..........he wud have set Varsha STRAIGHT in the bedroom , and told Sulo , Im finding it difficult to talk due to my personal emotions invested in this matter , U talk urself , its UR DUTY .
I cant stand a sWARTHI person calling a nON SWARTHI one that he is selfish . I hope Archna blasts her mother so bad this time and points out HER mistakes for a change .
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