Was this necessary?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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My POV.
I know everybody has been waiting eagerly for d tabela so some of u especially ICU people r going 2 b really angry with me. However here r my reasons for objection:
Despite being intrigued by K, R did everything in his power to hurt K for the sake of his father's stupid R-B.He betraysPrem Babu with K's father's press. K tries 2 kill him but he doesn't expose her. He gets Sohan Tauji hanged(yeh he does save K's life), implicates Mamaji in a false case so that he has to pay an exhorbitant fine. Consequently K is sold off by evil Mami to dat slimebag wolf buddha. In Buddha's house she goes thru unbearable torture( Mamiji almost seemed human) like buddha's nightly wolfish advances which she resisted, forced confinement and slavery in dat house, whip lashes, public humiliation when falsely implicated in theft, hand being burned and attempted rape by buddha's younger son. Then she escapes only 2 be betrayed by R 4 dat stupid R-Bship. Yeh he obviously knew by now dat she had been sold off to the buddha 4 money yet he does what he does.( At dis time the show had grt potential. I thought they would bring R back and he would reform on witnessing K's suffering at d hands of d buddha and may even free from d buddha.)
Anyways den K blackmails him 2 get married. And he does 2 save his family honour(& R-Bship).
Typical Indian man. No matter how well educated same cliched notions.
Then K has d upperhand. Then comes d Satnam Singh case where K gets d better of him. With d R-B gone instead of coming 2 his senses he goes bootlicking d Brits & promises Takla d hide of d KKs including dat of K so dat his father becomes a R-B even after K saves his father's life(& his 2 previously). The he saves her life and when she uses d oppurtunity 2 save d KKs he insults her & tries 2 throw her out of d house. She stays back despite d humiliaton hellbent on revenge behaving rather shrewishly.He calls her shameless.
Then she is wrongly framed 4 theft and he joins his family in all d unfair accusations despite being aware of her ideals. Then her innocence is proven and dey r sent 2 some minihoneymoon.
Here d tabela fiasco happens.
Oh did I mention his previously uttered lines like "Indian women r deir hubby's slaves etc".
Coming back 2 d tabela. Suddenly R is d very name of gentility and K d very name of confusion. How uncharacteristic. Dat 2 all in i week.
I mean was dis extreme and extraordinary fiasco necessary? And dat 2 a drunken one night stand in which behaves so uncharacteristically.
Couldn't R apologise 2 K and thank her and abandon dis bootlicking mission. He doesn't have 2 become a KK. He once enquired abt her scars. Couldn't he find out more abt her past and try and understand her.
Den if d tabela had happened I wouldn't really mind.
4 HEAVEN'S SAKE PLZ NO PREGNANCY NOW.
And creatives do some research.
In my feedback post I mentioned abt 2 grt novels with similar storyline(obnoxious hero and unimpressed heroine):
Pride and Prejudice(has a happy endinng) and Gone With The Wind(tragic ending). I hope d creatives read them up.
Plz rescue d characters.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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sevy,

I agree with you. The dreamers are dreamers. Let them enjoy. The buffoons have made huge mistakes which I have been regularly pointing out. In order to mould R's charachter, they had starting warping my kudi's character by showing her vindictive. I didn't like that. Even though our hearts may not accept it, the track will be thrust upon us. We have to try and fit this unsuitable track into a suitable perspective. That's what I am trying hard to do. Through my short and long analysis, short stories etc., I am trying to convince myself and am trying to salvage this stupid package from being thrown into a garbage heap.
Tabela has sent up everyone's pulse rates and the TRPs sky rocketing. This is how show biz works unfortunately.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yeah u are right it would have seemed sensible if raj had got about all those pains kranti went through and apologize to her, but thing is that he's so full of ego for that.....I think what happened was right till an extent, at least there had to be a turning point, at least there had to be a start for love at least from one side( Raj's)
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Sevy, Skep - I understand where you are coming from. Given the initial happenings in the show, its au naturel for K to be disturbed and heartbroken after the tabela fiasco. And one dialogue throughout the entire phase proves it. When R asks her to believe him, K simply asks him 'Yakken karron aur tumhe?'. This just shows how deep the wound has festered. Not only are they different individuals with opposite idealogies, but it's R who is mainly responsible for the ill happenings in K's life. SO instead, if they had shown him trying to understand K and respect him would things have been better.

I am also not enjoying the fact that to prop up R, they are destroying K's character totally and making this into R's journey only. While this should actually be the journey of both these people, coming home to each other.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hmmmm ......million dollar question ......was this necessary?? 😆
well i think before 15-20 episdoes it wasnt ..........but the crap they have shown after ss case ......i guess mabbe it was to change the track a bit!! as u all know wit their usual fights ......the show was bcuming quite monotonous n boring!! so to give anotehr angle to their relationship mabbe it was !!
actually .....i think it was their kinda shortcut for the damage control!! the show was actually going nowhere!! creatives highly lack in brains when they have to take teh story ahead logically keeping the nature of teh character in mind and obviously they had to use their non-existing brains which was actually saved by using this track!😆😆😆! so if we see their point of view .....trp's shot up ppl got glued ..........wat more do they want??
but personally i liked the episode.....i hav no probs wit this track!! but ya .....i guess it wud hav been better if .....they wud hav spend the nite talking to each oethr!! kranti was drunk ...so she wud have spoken her heart out to him...actually i liked the wayshe tod him kadwaa .....and rajveer cute laugh on tht statement!! so mabbe it wud hav been better if ...kranti in the drunken state ...wud hav been open to him about her life , instances tht she never told anyone ....bout her parents ,her tauji and everyone she luved........and rajveer really getting touched knowing the real soft kranti who is completly diff and innocent frm what she shows
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bugger

but personally i liked the episode.....i hav no probs wit this track!! but ya .....i guess it wud hav been better if .....they wud hav spend the nite talking to each oethr!! kranti was drunk ...so she wud have spoken her heart out to him...actually i liked the wayshe tod him kadwaa .....and rajveer cute laugh on tht statement!! so mabbe it wud hav been better if ...kranti in the drunken state ...wud hav been open to him about her life , instances tht she never told anyone ....bout her parents ,her tauji and everyone she luved........and rajveer really getting touched knowing the real soft kranti who is completly diff and innocent frm what she shows



Bugs, this would have been awesome 👏 and brilliant too. Would ahve loved to se it. 😛
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Posted: 16 years ago
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how u ppl can bring me back from dreamland with a thud....thatz not fair 😉😳
well...if R wud hv apologised and everything wud hv been fine with them and after that this tabela fiasco hapened....then it wud not hv that effect as it is hving now. i guess these long discussions that we r hving now wudnt hv hapned.
also i was slowly starting to suspect of Raj's manhood the way he did nothing despite staying in same bedroom with his beautiful young wife....so it was needed for me 😃
also this incident is a test for Kranti too. although her hatred for Raj is justified due to all the past deeds of Raj...still she has always overlooked Raj's other self. he never crossed his limits in all the nights after their marriage.
and in the tabela it was not possible for Raj (he is not suoerhuman) to resist all her provocations.....so Kranti must now be aware that Raj may hv all other faults but that night he is not to be blamed.
So, now Kranti who has always carried her own convenient POV of Raj so that she can hate him peacefully must now realise the true nature of Raj.
and last but obviously not the least I would also like to ask her about all those eyelocking scenes where she too had weak knees like Raj....can she deny her underlying feelings for him.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Raj had no moral restrictions. the women in his lap was his wife. He never crossed his limits but situation of that night was different. I posted it in one of Skepti's thread now again posting it

Whenever Kranti blamed him for anything he replied to it like a lawyer. He always defended his action He never bothered abt her hatered. Raj knew abt her past.....her pains thought not fully yet he always justified himself. Remember in Tribhuvan lals house when kranti told her that "tumhari wajah se sohan tauji ko phaasi huyi, mamaji jail gaye, mujhe ye narak mila aur muje ye sab sehana pad raha hai" .. she told him everthing but yet there was no regret in his face .. he was enjoying his victory n her defeat. But that night changed him

If our loved ones show their anger to us we do not defend us.. we dont go the question whether they were justifed or not in showing their anger. For the frist time Raj behaved like a lover n not a lawyer or a egoist.

"If you love some one because you think that he or she is really gorgeous ....
then it's not love .. it's
~* Infatuation *~......

If you love some one because you think that you shouldn't leave him because
others think that you shouldn't ... then it's not love.. it's
~*Compromise *~.......

If you love some one because you have been kissed by him ... then it's not
love.. it's
~* Inferiority complex*~......

If you love some one because you cannot leave him thinking that it would hurt
his feelings .. then it's not love .. it's
~*Charity*~....

If you love some one because you share every thing with him ... then it's not
love... it's
~*Friendship*~...

But if you feel the pain of the other person more than him/her and you cry for him/her ... that's
~*LOVE*~ =


If you get attracted to other people but stay with him without any regrets...
that's
~*LOVE*~

If you let him go knowing that he has to go but he doesn't want to ... that's
~*LOVE*~ "

He was attracted towards .. he was gentle towards her.. he did compromise....he allowed her to stay in his house ... that was charity only. He behaved like a lover for the fist time in Friday episode only. He felt her pain. He was crying inside because she was crying. Whether she was justfied or not that was not a issue for him.
This was the positive outcome of Tabela night. He was only concerned abt her.

I agree this track was not must but yet its a good twist


Edited by coolpurvi - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sevy_bvb

4 HEAVEN'S SAKE PLZ NO PREGNANCY NOW.
And creatives do some research.
In my feedback post I mentioned abt 2 grt novels with similar storyline(obnoxious hero and unimpressed heroine):
Pride and Prejudice(has a happy endinng) and Gone With The Wind(tragic ending). I hope d creatives read them up.
Plz rescue d characters.



totally agree. no pregnancy track now. creatives shud do more research
Edited by coolpurvi - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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My cool Purvi,
👏👏 👏 👏 Good arguments, Chica.
However, throughout the story she is the one who has lost and lost at his hands. He has lost nothing, instead he has made a few gains. If he has been kind enough to allow her to stay in the house, it was to save his family name. She has returned that in essence when she takes care of his parents. The equation is complete there.
What has been mortifying for her has been the fact that she has started getting attracted to this man. This man who has ruined ..... had ruined her life. For him its different. She hasn't ruined his life. His life just changes froom one phase to another. For her, the transition is far more complex and difficult. Hence my sympathy lies with her.

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