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Posted: 15 years ago
Very ineresting discussions Nandu, Sabah and Senny... I'm amazed to see so many thoughts.
Nandu... very well said....
Sabah..... what can I say?... you have given whole new meaning to the Mayank-Shilpa relationship... I truely wish CVs read your thread and carefully read all 10 steps... they will feel proud to see that they have given us such a beautiful relation to cherish on indian television....
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

@butterfly

they weren't my beautiful lines, I was blessed to have them imprinted upon my heart too!

As for "Its so sad for this show to have lost an amazinggggggg star like you." 😆😆😆
I am truly indebted to them for all the show, and continuing joy. They haven't lost anything valuable by losing me, I am not even in the trps zone!

Most definitely they still have my attention, for loyalty I won't turn my back until the end, and even then i will look upon that spot with much heartfelt love filled remembrance!


Even unrequited love, love abandoned is beautiful as it is fruitful within our hearts. I have never regretted love, and loving with all my heart. NEVER!

Love Sabah



Sabah I remember you quoted them from a poem. I will bring that old thread here again to touch upon those wonderful memories to be cherished forever.😳

Hehe Sabah but I really meant it so that then we could have discussed about the recent happenings in the show as well. Aww that is so sweet, indeed your devotion is unquestionable!

Wow so well said but love abandoned, Sabah can it be so? Doesn't it always remain in our heart possibly just goes in slumber and it is upon us if we choose to keep it awake or let it sleep.

I have never regretted loving anyone and this show, never. But at times this show has disappointed but still that hope is always there. Recently the show has MN at a very different stage of their relationship, it is beautifully enacted and acted by the actors and my love has woken up, you may want to try and it might just be up or possibly it wants to get up😆.

Much love always,

Senny.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

Butterfly...

"You rightfully deserve all the love and respect. I pray that you get alot more love than you ever give. I agree at least I try not to burn my hands, but at times I do, at least when you burn your hand once, twice, thrice, the frequency of burning would get less and less. Wisdom only comes with time, it just doesn't happen but again a sincere attempt is what is needed." Beautiful👏

I agree Shilpa aunty, when she smiles, one feels like smiling with her, she brings her own glow and share of undeniable radiance.I have never come across that poem Sabah, but would love to know more about it.Sorry honey I confused two references. The title and quote are from two different poems. 😳 In my defense it is two hours past my bedtime.
I am just going to spam my thread because I want to include the first as it is one of of my favourite poems.
Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half-light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


These last two lines, this is the essence of risking your heart. When Mayank declares his love, he lays his heart under Nupur's feet.

Looking up at the stars, I know quite well
That, for all they care, I can go to hell,
But on earth indifference is the least
We have to dread from man or beast.

How should we like it were stars to burn
With a passion for us we could not return?
If equal affection cannot be,
Let the more loving one be me.

Admirer as I think I am
Of stars that do not give a damn,
I cannot, now I see them, say
I missed one terribly all day.

Were all stars to disappear or die,
I should learn to look at an empty sky
And feel its total darkness sublime,
Though this might take me a little time.

First is by yeats and second by auden.




Sabah here is that post, i remember these were the beautiful poems you put across and shared with us.

The lines are from the second one which I can never ever forget, but Sabah please let me be the more loving one here, I would try to never let you down.😳

I hope this thread is still on track and not lost its way, because of me.😆

Much love,

Senny.




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Posted: 15 years ago
@Nandita
Yes I agree glimpses at the reflections in the mirror of Mayank's past would be quite fine, indeed. As for Shilpa Aunty's return, I keep that candle of hope lit eternally in my heart. There is so much protential and scope. FOr me Mayank's man of the house angle is very much controversial as it is endearing. Not only the whole Nupur, Mayank Shilpa Aunty reunion but the whole Nupur on Aunty's side for her right to companionship vs Mayank's inability to see his mother in such a role. Then of course the whole Mayank jealous over his mother's love with that added layer of seeing another 'man' seeing his mother as a woman not only his mother.

I must add that I too, actually fall upon Mayank's side, i just don't think Shilpa Aunty is inclined to open that door at all. She is more than content with her lot. Another quality I admired of hers, she is truly grateful at heart, never jealous or zealous of wanting more wealth but only interested in the wealth her son garnered in his heart from the beauty of this world.

I really miss her....😭

@jess. I still haven't written to the cvs. However I agree with you that I think it is important that the original creators and Vaishnavi know the impact they have made, how the wisdom they imparted has affected our very souls. Whether they intended it or not, they were the source, the means of these greats gifts. I am working on informing them.

@butterfly

Wow so well said but love abandoned, Sabah can it be so? Doesn't it always remain in our heart possibly just goes in slumber and it is upon us if we choose to keep it awake or let it sleep.Sorry, butterfly i meant 'when love abandons us, not when we abandon it in our hearts. As you pointed out, true love can not be abandoned so easily. For me I feel as though I have been abandoned as my love is interested in impressing, attracting new hearts; I am waiting for it to impress, attract, and entice hearts anew!

I have never regretted loving anyone and this show, never. But at times this show has disappointed but still that hope is always there. Recently the show has MN at a very different stage of their relationship, it is beautifully enacted and acted by the actors and my love has woken up, you may want to try and it might just be up or possibly it wants to get up
A few others also advised me to return, so I did watch last thursday and friday's episodes. I don't not back bite, nor criticize for I most definitely do not have the right, so all I will say is 'yes there has been an improvement from the previous few tracks'😃

I have returned to the beginning to enliven my soul, to rejuvenate it through viewing the fresh vim and verdant poetry of yesteryear. I hope that it gives my heart courage enough to follow all the stories to their end, as we said we don't know ourselves so I cannot say what tomorrow will bring; weakness in conviction or strength of intention.😳

To all, My heart is left glistening from your 'reflections'!😳
Sabah
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Posted: 15 years ago
@butterfly

The lines are from the second one which I can never ever forget, but Sabah please let me be the more loving one here, I would try to never let you down.😳Butterfly, it is not about 'letting' you, for you already are, I could not compete with your great heart, however as for wishing, for yearning, you cannot stop me for that, I wish you love and I yearn that I am the more loving one.

I hope this thread is still on track and not lost its way, because of me.😆I would never try to clip a butterfly's wings; for you have grace even in your meanderings.
Sabah


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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

@butterfly

The lines are from the second one which I can never ever forget, but Sabah please let me be the more loving one here, I would try to never let you down.😳Butterfly, it is not about 'letting' you, for you already are, I could not compete with your great heart, however as for wishing, for yearning, you cannot stop me for that, I wish you love and I yearn that I am the more loving one.

I hope this thread is still on track and not lost its way, because of me.😆I would never try to clip a butterfly's wings; for you have grace even in your meanderings.
Sabah




Aww Sabah, 😳, alright I would let you be the more loving one as love is not about competition Sabah, its just love. Even i were to compete I know I wouldn't have won against you ever. Grace is possibly not in my meanderings its always in your vision indeed.

Much love,

Senny.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith


@butterfly

Wow so well said but love abandoned, Sabah can it be so? Doesn't it always remain in our heart possibly just goes in slumber and it is upon us if we choose to keep it awake or let it sleep.Sorry, butterfly i meant 'when love abandons us, not when we abandon it in our hearts. As you pointed out, true love can not be abandoned so easily. For me I feel as though I have been abandoned as my love is interested in impressing, attracting new hearts; I am waiting for it to impress, attract, and entice hearts anew!

I have never regretted loving anyone and this show, never. But at times this show has disappointed but still that hope is always there. Recently the show has MN at a very different stage of their relationship, it is beautifully enacted and acted by the actors and my love has woken up, you may want to try and it might just be up or possibly it wants to get up
A few others also advised me to return, so I did watch last thursday and friday's episodes. I don't not back bite, nor criticize for I most definitely do not have the right, so all I will say is 'yes there has been an improvement from the previous few tracks'😃

I have returned to the beginning to enliven my soul, to rejuvenate it through viewing the fresh vim and verdant poetry of yesteryear. I hope that it gives my heart courage enough to follow all the stories to their end, as we said we don't know ourselves so I cannot say what tomorrow will bring; weakness in conviction or strength of intention.😳

To all, My heart is left glistening from your 'reflections'!😳
Sabah



Oh I understand now Sabah. Wow indeed thats such a courageous heart who is looking ahead rather than moaning and being all gloomy. There is no reason to moan as well, love always remains, its just the intensity keeps on varying.

Yes indeed there has been improvement and hopefully it will be doing better ahead, provided it is given a chance to breathe and grow.

Quoting you "I hope that it gives my heart courage enough to follow all the stories to their end, as we said we don't know ourselves so I cannot say what tomorrow will bring; weakness in conviction or strength of intention."👏

Wow that was so beautifully put Sabah, I am certain that as soon as you said it and started believing, the courage will already start residing in your heart.

Much love,

Senny.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

I beseech God for good results.

Step 9 ' FUN!

The most important rainbow you can give your 'child' who is now an adult is freedom of his heart, mind, body and soul. By caging them, you only inhibit their verdant growth and primrose fun!

{Lesson 9 By Mayank. Do not be deluded by the term 'free-time'. There is nothing 'free' about time. It is one of the most valuable commodities you own. It is you who decides the price at which you barter it.}

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yW82uNUCzs[/YOUTUBE]

I do not doubt that Mayank played at least 'a little' with some child hood friends, or maybe I do. However one truth remains as distinct as black and white, Shilpa Aunty has always been his best friend and his best play mate.

Unlike the majority of real and pallid mothers, Shilpa Aunty sincerely encourages blue Mayank to free himself from the shade of his house and colourfully imbue himself with others on this most golden of days. She understands the silver truth behind the blanched phrase, 'If you love something, set it free...'👏 👏 👏

Even on your days off, a mother's duty never ends. A heavy heart weighs upon a yellowing mind, echoed in what Tamana mam later advises him; that although it is advisable to speak with your mind engaged, it is essential to release your heart's gilded thoughts.

Shilpa's Aunty uses all that surrounds Mayank to initiate play; the fluid oil, the solid paper and finally the airy, ethereal colour! I love how both Shilpa Aunty's pure white actions and words freely flow through into the next scene, phase and step.

Her actions remind him that playing, having fun is an important way to express your rosy love to your loved ones. She brings citrus colour into his two-toned life, so that he may learn how to share its zest with other's too.

Her words remind him of life's important lesson, 'Nothing is impossible except living in the past!'



Hey Sabah,

I always wanted to treat myself when i come and dwell further into this wonderfully written step 9 and 10 but alas I couldn't resist I had to come and comment prematurely, I have missed you and commenting on the steps so much. 😭

Reading step 9, to begin with its title 9 "fun", I won't say that life is all about fun but life is incomplete without fun, a soul is lifeless; if he or she doesn't enjoy or know how to enjoy. Not everyone is able to live life to the fullest and live each moment. But Shilpa Aunty is one rare gem who strikes the perfect balance and just doesn't have fun, but lives life as it should be lived. She carries responsibilities with a light heart filled with love.😳

M on the other hand, lives his life differently from Mum, in his dictionary, the word fun exists but it has a limited scope. Possibly for M fun is in reading books which is no doubt a lot of fun. But his fun has a limited scope because he whole heartedly feels light, smiles and jokes around with his mum only. As you have so aptly pointed out M had his best play mate in his mother. It is a rare combination that a teenage boy has his mother as his best pal. All credit to Shilpa aunty for the development of such a beautiful relationship!😳

Now when N came in his life, Shilpa Aunty always encouraged M and his friendship with N which was for several reasons one being to be able to enjoy life as it should be. N is just like Shilpa Aunty in that respect, living life with fun and happiness.😃

The most intriguing aspect of M and his mum's relation was that Shilpa aunty had given that freedom of heart, mind ,body and soul to Mayank but he hadn't really chosen to avail it especially freedom of heart which he had limited to his mum and his goals that was it and he was content with it.

Lesson 9, free time indeed is one of the most precious times ever, all depends on how we choose to spend it, if you ask M would love to read another book and if you ask N, possibly watch a SRK movie, go in the rain, dance around as she loved dancing.

Shilpa aunty indeed has to do the opposite of what mothers typically would have to do, mothers in general would say study, you have played enough and Shilpa aunty would be like stop studying, have some fun, she encouraged him to widen the definition and scope of fun!😆

Another beautiful aspect which i totally agree with is that if you love someone so much, set them free, let them go if they want to, if they truly belong with you, they would come back. Its all emotions which lead this battle.

Much love always,

Senny.


Edited by Senny - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey Sabah, hey butterfly, as for being the 'more' loving one; my heart conceded to your love a long time ago! As for MJHT, I have set sail upon the turbulent sea but no fear as I have your support. Let us see if courage abandons me or if I am able to stay the course!

I always wanted to treat myself when i come and dwell further into this wonderfully written step 9 and 10 but alas I couldn't resist I had to come and comment prematurely, I have missed you and commenting on the steps so much. 😭We have missed reading them. I especially love our little excursions, I never know how to prepare, or guess which direction we will turn.

Reading step 9, to begin with its title 9 "fun", I won't say that life is all about fun but life is incomplete without fun, a soul is lifeless; if he or she doesn't enjoy or know how to enjoy. Not everyone is able to live life to the fullest and live each moment. But Shilpa Aunty is one rare gem who strikes the perfect balance and just doesn't have fun, but lives life as it should be lived. She carries responsibilities with a light heart filled with love.😳This was very well said. I very fitting description! She grounds us when we float too far upon that whirlwind of excitement but also lifts us high above the ground when gravity thrusts itself mercilessly upon us!

M on the other hand, lives his life differently from Mum, in his dictionary, the word fun exists but it has a limited scope. Possibly for M fun is in reading books which is no doubt a lot of fun. Mayank actully reminds us that studying, seeking knowledge is joyful and not burdensome. I loved his attitude to studying, it was very refreshing. But his fun has a limited scope because he whole heartedly feels light, smiles and jokes around with his mum only. As you have so aptly pointed out M had his best play mate in his mother. It is a rare combination that a teenage boy has his mother as his best pal. All credit to Shilpa aunty for the development of such a beautiful relationship!😳It inspired me to be more playful with my parents, who surprising took my cue and returned the act of love. This is why i say, mjht has inspired me to be a better person in so many ways, I truly am indebted to them.
Now when N came in his life, Shilpa Aunty always encouraged M and his friendship with N which was for several reasons one being to be able to enjoy life as it should be. N is just like Shilpa Aunty in that respect, living life with fun and happiness.😃Exactly. I think when Shilpa AUnty first 'knew' of Nupur it was through the dance talent parade, so she already knew that she wasn't a complete bookworm, but when she met her, Shilpa Aunty's dreams had come true, the perfect 'partner' to Mayank. The ying and the yang, complimenting each other and gaining peace.
The most intriguing aspect of M and his mum's relation was that Shilpa aunty had given that freedom of heart, mind ,body and soul to Mayank but he hadn't really chosen to avail it especially freedom of heart which he had limited to his mum and his goals that was it and he was content with it.To be honest, I don't think Mayank felt a 'deficiency' in his life by not pursuing love. Nupur did not fill an emptiness but rather she opened up new frontiers for discovery.
Lesson 9, free time indeed is one of the most precious times ever, all depends on how we choose to spend it, if you ask M would love to read another book and if you ask N, possibly watch a SRK movie, go in the rain, dance around as she loved dancing.What about you? I hate this society we have built whereby people bank roll the weekend. Trying to fit all their life's joy and fun into two days and then five days of drudgery. We need to work and we need to play BUT each day of our lives should carry weight. A person once told me that each day that you don't improve as a person, is a day wasted.
Shilpa aunty indeed has to do the opposite of what mothers typically would have to do, mothers in general would say study, you have played enough and Shilpa aunty would be like stop studying, have some fun, she encouraged him to widen the definition and scope of fun!😆She understands her son, more importantly she understands the point of life.
Another beautiful aspect which i totally agree with is that if you love someone so much, set them free, let them go if they want to, if they truly belong with you, they would come back. Its all emotions which lead this battle.Even if they don't come back, it doesn't mean they didn't love you, or love you still. Would you really want to keep a person at all costs, even if it means caging them? For ultimately we cannot cage people's hearts.

I don't think Mayank realises how blessed he is that SHilpa Aunty gives him his freedom, I am not saying he isn't grateful to her, for that he is. I am saying that he might not realise that the majority of parents are not like her.

Much love always, I know, you don't have to say...😳Much love returned...Sabah
Senny.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

Hey Sabah, hey butterfly, as for being the 'more' loving one; my heart conceded to your love a long time ago! As for MJHT, I have set sail upon the turbulent sea but no fear as I have your support. Let us see if courage abandons me or if I am able to stay the course!

I always wanted to treat myself when i come and dwell further into this wonderfully written step 9 and 10 but alas I couldn't resist I had to come and comment prematurely, I have missed you and commenting on the steps so much. 😭We have missed reading them. I especially love our little excursions, I never know how to prepare, or guess which direction we will turn.

Reading step 9, to begin with its title 9 "fun", I won't say that life is all about fun but life is incomplete without fun, a soul is lifeless; if he or she doesn't enjoy or know how to enjoy. Not everyone is able to live life to the fullest and live each moment. But Shilpa Aunty is one rare gem who strikes the perfect balance and just doesn't have fun, but lives life as it should be lived. She carries responsibilities with a light heart filled with love.😳This was very well said. I very fitting description! She grounds us when we float too far upon that whirlwind of excitement but also lifts us high above the ground when gravity thrusts itself mercilessly upon us!

M on the other hand, lives his life differently from Mum, in his dictionary, the word fun exists but it has a limited scope. Possibly for M fun is in reading books which is no doubt a lot of fun. Mayank actully reminds us that studying, seeking knowledge is joyful and not burdensome. I loved his attitude to studying, it was very refreshing. But his fun has a limited scope because he whole heartedly feels light, smiles and jokes around with his mum only. As you have so aptly pointed out M had his best play mate in his mother. It is a rare combination that a teenage boy has his mother as his best pal. All credit to Shilpa aunty for the development of such a beautiful relationship!😳It inspired me to be more playful with my parents, who surprising took my cue and returned the act of love. This is why i say, mjht has inspired me to be a better person in so many ways, I truly am indebted to them.
Now when N came in his life, Shilpa Aunty always encouraged M and his friendship with N which was for several reasons one being to be able to enjoy life as it should be. N is just like Shilpa Aunty in that respect, living life with fun and happiness.😃Exactly. I think when Shilpa AUnty first 'knew' of Nupur it was through the dance talent parade, so she already knew that she wasn't a complete bookworm, but when she met her, Shilpa Aunty's dreams had come true, the perfect 'partner' to Mayank. The ying and the yang, complimenting each other and gaining peace.
The most intriguing aspect of M and his mum's relation was that Shilpa aunty had given that freedom of heart, mind ,body and soul to Mayank but he hadn't really chosen to avail it especially freedom of heart which he had limited to his mum and his goals that was it and he was content with it.To be honest, I don't think Mayank felt a 'deficiency' in his life by not pursuing love. Nupur did not fill an emptiness but rather she opened up new frontiers for discovery.
Lesson 9, free time indeed is one of the most precious times ever, all depends on how we choose to spend it, if you ask M would love to read another book and if you ask N, possibly watch a SRK movie, go in the rain, dance around as she loved dancing.What about you? I hate this society we have built whereby people bank roll the weekend. Trying to fit all their life's joy and fun into two days and then five days of drudgery. We need to work and we need to play BUT each day of our lives should carry weight. A person once told me that each day that you don't improve as a person, is a day wasted.
Shilpa aunty indeed has to do the opposite of what mothers typically would have to do, mothers in general would say study, you have played enough and Shilpa aunty would be like stop studying, have some fun, she encouraged him to widen the definition and scope of fun!😆She understands her son, more importantly she understands the point of life.
Another beautiful aspect which i totally agree with is that if you love someone so much, set them free, let them go if they want to, if they truly belong with you, they would come back. Its all emotions which lead this battle.Even if they don't come back, it doesn't mean they didn't love you, or love you still. Would you really want to keep a person at all costs, even if it means caging them? For ultimately we cannot cage people's hearts.

I don't think Mayank realises how blessed he is that SHilpa Aunty gives him his freedom, I am not saying he isn't grateful to her, for that he is. I am saying that he might not realise that the majority of parents are not like her.

Much love always, I know, you don't have to say...😳Much love returned...Sabah
Senny.



Aww Sabah,

I can never be that, the kind of love you have for everyone, its unmatchable as I always say. You would have my support to stay and come out as a winner!

😆 my diverse excursions, always taking this thread from one extreme to another hehe.

Quoting you: "She grounds us when we float too far upon that whirlwind of excitement but also lifts us high above the ground when gravity thrusts itself mercilessly upon us!"👏 👏 👏

That was so well said and i totally agree, she strikes the perfect balance and she does so effortlessly and so easily.

I agree M and his attitude to studying was refreshing indeed, studying wasn't a task for him, it was his passion, books were a tool to aid in defining who he is. For him fun was reading and i indeed agree it is such a pleasure to read. I possibly shared this a little while back i guess that i feel the most at peace when I get a chance to sit on the beach with the warm sun and light breeze and eh a wonderful book as a companion. In my free time, I would prefer reading or listening to serene music.😳 How would you like to spent it Sabah?

Free time at many times is given a misleading interpretation, it is a very important time and which can be used for something really useful such as something for relaxing our mind.

Oh thats something new Sabah, I hadn't thought like that, yes possibly you are right. But I feel that N was someone who enabled M to discover a side to him which he didn't know he had, it was more of her helping him in discovering himself and knowing himself better.

I agree the way the whole concept of weekends is looked upon but then I don't know how can we strike that balance between work and enjoyment in our lives, is it by enjoying our work and staying positive about things Sabah?

I agree she understands the point of life. Awwwwww so well👏 said we just can't cage someone's heart or make him or her fall in love. Love is beautiful but it never works by way of compulsion ever, the compulsion being in any form at all!

Yes possibly as he hasn't been exposed to parents who don't give that freedom to their children, about bauji, the show unfortunately doesn't shed much light and thought over such matters and relations which has so much room and potential for exploration.

😆As always much love,

Senny.



Edited by Senny - 15 years ago

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