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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

I have I told you my 'theory' about how Mayank takes after his father, thereby Shilpa Aunty being Nupur to his Mayank, and therefore with Mayank and Nupur now we have histroy repeating itself. What do you think? Be honest and share your ideas too.

in that scene when Mayu was put to bed and Nupur and Aunty were sharing coffee..and talking ... well that scene to the most reflects to me your take on it...
Wish we were given bit glimpse... in form of talks too about Mayank''s Dad...
As from a near past episode when G comes to inform Nupur that she won the role in the movie...and that she doesn't think she has any idea or future in acting..to this Nupur talks of their Mom..how their Dad used to talk about their Mom acting as Madhubala infront of the mirror... this sure does help us to relate Nupur's fondness for acting..
Same I would love to get some info about Mayu's Dad...
'like father - like son'.... wish we could get to check this saying



I absolutely agree, I love how they tie in Nupur's love of acting to her mother, for it gives it a soul and strength of life. However as to Mayank, I see all his dreams and quirks, as fruits of those seeds that were sowed by Shilpa Aunty. I don't know why but I actually really like the mystery of Mayank's dad the way it is. It leaves open a door to possibilities and add enchantment to Mayank and Shilpa Aunty's relationship. I remember when he subtlety refers to this when he talks to Bauiji at the hospital, about losing a close one...I actually felt nervous, worried that he would 'reveal' too much.

I guess it depends how they use this 'locked' treasure. The keys are in the hands of thieves who are thankfully searching for a lock smith and not prying open the lid with a crowbar.

I am more interested in how Mayank sees his role as 'man' of the house to Shilpa Aunty. I always imagined future scenes where the issue of her own happiness and companionship would arise. I know this might be very controversial, please feel free to slap me in the face, but I had thoughts were Nupur's heart understands, sees something Mayank's mind would never let his heart even glance upon. The thought that after he leaves, shouldn't Shilpa Aunty too find love. However I also see that Shilpa Aunty's grateful heart is too full and overflowing already, I doubt she even notes a need for such 'frivolity'.

Maybe Mayank's loss could be replaced with the love that grandchildren bring...of course much further down the line.

Sorry, just singing out aloud despite being tone deaf! I really should have more consideration but when the melody grabs my attention I am pulled towards it magic and quite forget myself, my limits and sense!

Love Sabah
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

Hey Sabah,Hey butterfly, i have missed you...😳
Very well put, it is true that our intention behind everything is what makes immense difference. The same deed done with a pure intention can mean so much and bring great joy but if the intention is not kind, it may in the long run lead to much pain and suffering. That is so true about internet and the power of words, indeed it is well evidenced by the diverse reactions here at the forum as well. I know most will scoff, but I swear I can feel the love in simple words and the sting of bitterness in polished thoughts. People cannot hide behind well chosen words for their intentions seep through.
Its just mere words which are said about a particular character which usually gives rise to extreme anger, hurt feelings and not to forget kindness and a sense of warmth when someone whole heartedly looks at another's opinions. Sabah you have brought a new light and thought process with this statement "The words the means, our intentions the source of our results!"👏I have always believed this. People wonder why at unexpected consequences but truly it is we who are deluded to ourselves.
There is wisdom in everything but not everyone can see and it certainly is a wonderful trait which cannot be developed overnight, it evolves over time. I agree it is nearly impossible to know everything and in connection to this I would like to add that just like that for a person as well, we shouldn't judge people and have a definite opinion about them and labelling them as negative as we don't know them in totality and possibly never would be, it is inappropriate to make an opinion about someone like that.I am not the person i was ten years ago, ten months ago, ten minutes ago. I would hate someone to judge me as once was, so shouldn't I give others the same chance to redeem themselves.
Humans indeed are an enigma and we keep on discovering one thing or another about ourselves almost everyday, but generally we are so busy within our lives we don't even take out those few moments to ponder about ourselves. But the exercise of self discovery might help us in knowing ourselves better but I doubt that even this would enable us to know ourselves totally. Change is what remains constant, this is what M said a little while ago and indeed this change is what makes understanding ourselves much harder.True, but isn't this wonderful. The continued change brings a continued journey, ourselves become as vast as the universe we inhabit.
Wow so well said about costumes being imbued by their own light, i guess this is true for everyone if looked upon from a broad horizon!😳This is how I have always seen it. We won't look beautiful by acquiring cinderella's dress but by acquiring her charm and character, even in her rags we would shine out the best!
A smile can light up anyone's face, some consider it inappropriate to smile to a stranger and have forbidden me to do so, I try to share my happiness as much as possible by a simple gesture like a smile. 😃 I hope you are now 😆.Me back at you😃. Yes I have been told that I smile too much and truth be told, it has lead to trouble, but I never regret my intentions.
I agree this world is vast and beautiful, its unfortunate that the real beauty is being suppressed underneath.Yes but it also permeates through, for it will ultimately be victorious!
God bless you.You too, butterfly inabundance!
Much Love,
Senny.



Hey Sabah,

Only yesterday when I came back after a little while I realised how much I have missed coming here and talking to you but I am glad that today we have that feeling of togetherness back.😳

It really amazes me that how just mere words can be so impactful! Words indeed forms the thread which connects our hearts together, words can make that thread strong or weak depending on what we choose to do. Its just like using a knife to cut vegetables or to use it for other violent purposes.

I agree, it is us only who have become deluded to ourselves.

Thats true, every person deserves that chance. But then Sabah judging and knowing a person is there a line between the two? Judging could also a way where we try to know a person and take a relationship forward. Its only when we judge a person as being not nice there a sincere effort should be made to think again. But I am still not sure as to whether this notion of judging could be used in that context or not.

I agree, changes make life much more interesting and colourful, with different challenges to face almost every other day! Indeed life itself is one of the most beautiful adventure, there can be adventure in our daily activities as well, there is no need for going and climbing a mountain! But then much depends on how we define adventure and how we choose to look at the events in our life.

Wow very well said, charm and a beautiful character is an inherent trait and independent of such materialistic things. I find the most simple attires, the most beautiful indeed.😳

😆 even i have thats why i have been forbidden to do so, but still can't help it😆.

Much love always and always,

Senny.


Edited by Senny - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
@butterfly
Thats true, every person deserves that chance. But then Sabah judging and knowing a person is there a line between the two? Judging could also a way where we try to know a person and take a relationship forward. Its only when we judge a person as being not nice there a sincere effort should be made to think again. But I am still not sure as to whether this notion of judging could be used in that context or not.

I try never to judge only to know a person, as they are standing in front of me, not looking back on past grievances nor expecting past love or favours, for in truth we can never say we 'know' who we are let alone another.

The way forward for me, is that I never try to consciously look and thereby judge what is inside people's hearts. However I do pay heed to that general feeling, tone or aura of their presence, words or actions in order to react to theirs. If i feel hostility, i take a step back, but still remained engaged with them. If I feel love, I open the gates to my heart for them to enter through which one they feel enticed, intrigued to step through...
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

@butterfly
Thats true, every person deserves that chance. But then Sabah judging and knowing a person is there a line between the two? Judging could also a way where we try to know a person and take a relationship forward. Its only when we judge a person as being not nice there a sincere effort should be made to think again. But I am still not sure as to whether this notion of judging could be used in that context or not.

I try never to judge only to know a person, as they are standing in front of me, not looking back on past grievances nor expecting past love or favours, for in truth we can never say we 'know' who we are let alone another.

The way forward for me, is that I never try to consciously look and thereby judge what is inside people's hearts. However I do pay heed to that general feeling, tone or aura of their presence, words or actions in order to react to theirs. If i feel hostility, i take a step back, but still remained engaged with them. If I feel love, I open the gates to my heart for them to enter through which one they feel enticed, intrigued to step through...



Aww Sabah, that was sooo well said. Now the whole vision is much clear. I absolutely agree that we don't know ourselves, every other day, I discover something new about myself. So how can we label them in any way.

That was so enlightening indeed Sabah,👏 you in such simple yet strong words laid down the magic spell for building relations. I have felt and done the same, when i feel coldness and distance, i move back inevitably.

But then Sabah, love is an enigma when I love someone even if or she is going away from me, i cannot leave without making a sincere effort to make it work. At times we just feel hostility and coldness but it isn't the case, that other person is the same and feels the same, its only us who has different feelings. Then again its back to square one, trying to know ourselves better.😳

Much love,😳

Senny.
Edited by Senny - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

Congrats ! for giving us 10 useful steps!!!!!!😃

I beseech God for patience.

Step 10 - Expect the Impossible!

If your own life has not taught you this principal, then your child's adventure surely will; that nothing is impossible! This is unlike step 6, expect the unexpected, for you will be unable to maintain decorum, for even thinking of these 'impossibilities' invites trepidation to pour darkness into your heart. Your refuge from despair comes from knowing that within this unknown and uncertain darkness lay lights to guide you out; they are faith and love.

{Lesson 10 by Mayank. In quantum mechanics there is a theory commonly referenced as 'Schrodinger's cat, which surmises that things are either 0 % or 100 % likely, there are no other probabilities. It will either rain today or not; there are no other probabilities or certainties. So is life, things will happen or they will not; there is no improbable, no impossible, not even within yourself.}


I love these scenes, for Shilpa Aunty is not accosted by one impossibility but two! yeah! even a mom like shilpa aunty who knows her son too well, was surprised with mayank being drunk here .& second surprise for her was i guess Nupur's innocent heart that she is even unable to understand mayank's love for her.i think this purity of her heart was shilpa aunty's 2 nd surprise!!!!but it was such pleasure to watch Shipa aunty's face off with the two impossibility considering she proved it already how well she can handle the unexpected situations at ur step 6. 😆

Firstly, Mayank; Drunk! I guess even destiny has a mischievous side. (Hey, Mayank, bura mat man na, Holi hai!) Again, Shilpa Aunty shows us that her merciful love is grace itself whereby her anger, horror or disappointment become grace notes.

Oh! first when mayank enter the home.look at shilpa aunty there... she was sensing something is wrong.still she was calm "ha beta apnahi ghar hai,aja"& when nupur told her abt mayank being drunk,bang! comes the reaction....😆loved her almost screaming !!!! she was shocked.like anything & nupur had to calm her down by immediately saying the whole uday bhaiya story!!!!!😆

Here we are privileged to witness the graceful poetry of Vaishnavi's and Arjun's volley of visual verve.

yeah! three of them actually made this whole scene so believable....specially u notice arjun.when shilpa auty & nupur was talking.he had nothing to do but sleep.but nupur & his mom talking abt him & he is sleeping peacefully like baby in background gave the whole scene a sense completeness.i feel.

The second impossibility, Nupur; Oblivious! Some fans consider this an oversight, a goof up on the part of MJHT creators. However I see it as the wonders of the human soul. How can an acutely adept observant person as Nupur fail to notice Mayank's love? For me the answer lies back in her laughter at 'sirf mein bacha hoon!' yeah even after falling in love with him, .it was so hard for her to believe that mayank can actually love a gal like her.She used to hv her doubt abt it..which continued till they confess....If this impossibility has never crossed her mind, how could her heart conjure up such expectations!.

For me this is the moment, Shilpa Aunty's heart cemented Nupur as her daughter in law. yeah that offering her for "chugli lagana" was kind of a sas bahu thing na!😆 We all fell for her charms, let alone Mayank, against all odds. How could anyone who saw her, not do so? As Shilpa Aunty says "Ab mere samaj mein aaya, kyu aaj kal Mayank tum se...."

I ardently love the faith with which Shilpa Aunty places her faith in love! She understands the finer point of Schrodinger's cat that Mayank does not; "Nothing is real until it is observed!"

I love the optimistic end of this scene .where shilpa aunty actually didn't want to interfere or influence any part of their story as she had full faith that love will find a way on its own!!!!!

hey sabah! i replied in red for ur step 10.😃
but just referring to ur earlier reply.i don't write here becoz of loyalty .i love writing for ur topic..u remember when i first saw ur topic in the forum .i Pmed u that i can never express my thinking as good as u? well u really make me come out of my fear..now when i write for any post .i just write what i felt , not thinking abt how good or bad it is! & writing for this topic is always a pleasure for me...i was honest when i said that i got super excited abt VM making so, got late.but that never meant that i enjoy writing here any less!!!!!!
Love u sabah!!!!!!!!🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
@butterfly
But then Sabah, love is an enigma when I love someone even if or she is going away from me, i cannot leave without making a sincere effort to make it work. At times we just feel hostility and coldness but it isn't the case, that other person is the same and feels the same, its only us who has different feelings.

Two points.

One. I loved what you said at bold. I never thought about this aspect. Lovely butterfly👏. True what happens when we change and they remain with the same indifference! 'if equal love cannot be, let the more loving one be me!'

Two. When i take a step back, I don't turn my back, I always remain facing them, that way i can see immediately that moment they once again reach out their hand, so that I may once again interlock my fingers therein, and we don't lose any precious time.

Both points are pretty much my attitude with current MJHT.

Love always, Sabah.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

@butterfly
But then Sabah, love is an enigma when I love someone even if or she is going away from me, i cannot leave without making a sincere effort to make it work. At times we just feel hostility and coldness but it isn't the case, that other person is the same and feels the same, its only us who has different feelings.

Two points.

One. I loved what you said at bold. I never thought about this aspect. Lovely butterfly👏. True what happens when we change and they remain with the same indifference! 'if equal love cannot be, let the more loving one be me!'

Two. When i take a step back, I don't turn my back, I always remain facing them, that way i can see immediately that moment they once again reach out their hand, so that I may once again interlock my fingers therein, and we don't lose any precious time.

Both points are pretty much my attitude with current MJHT.

Love always, Sabah.



Hey Sabah,

Thank you so much!😳 Aww Sabah i remember those beautiful lines you said. All i wish and hope for is to able to learn them by my heart for ever and ever!

Wow that was beautiful👏, i hadn't thought like that at all. When two souls depart, usually they turn their back though they may turn but in between and not walk away without turning their back at all! In that case Sabah,I hope with all my heart that soon the hands and fingers reunite as this is where they rightly belong, together!

Its so sad for this show to have lost an amazinggggggg star like you.

God bless you always,

Senny.


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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mou.

hey sabah! i replied in red for ur step 10.😃
but just referring to ur earlier reply.i don't write here becoz of loyalty .i love writing for ur topic..u remember when i first saw ur topic in the forum .i Pmed u that i can never express my thinking as good as u? well u really make me come out of my fear..now when i write for any post .i just write what i felt , not thinking abt how good or bad it is! & writing for this topic is always a pleasure for me...i was honest when i said that i got super excited abt VM making so, got late.but that never meant that i enjoy writing here any less!!!!!!I never doubted, but only stated out of courtesy. Mou, I truly love your tangents and pathways onto new avenues of adventures for my mind and soul. Thank you in abundance, i am once again indebted!
Love u sabah!!!!!!!!🤗

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Posted: 15 years ago
@butterfly

they weren't my beautiful lines, I was blessed to have them imprinted upon my heart too!

As for "Its so sad for this show to have lost an amazinggggggg star like you." 😆😆😆
I am truly indebted to them for all the show, and continuing joy. They haven't lost anything valuable by losing me, I am not even in the trps zone!

Most definitely they still have my attention, for loyalty I won't turn my back until the end, and even then i will look upon that spot with much heartfelt love filled remembrance!


Even unrequited love, love abandoned is beautiful as it is fruitful within our hearts. I have never regretted love, and loving with all my heart. NEVER!

Love Sabah

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith



I absolutely agree, I love how they tie in Nupur's love of acting to her mother, for it gives it a soul and strength of life. However as to Mayank, I see all his dreams and quirks, as fruits of those seeds that were sowed by Shilpa Aunty. I don't know why but I actually really like the mystery of Mayank's dad the way it is. It leaves open a door to possibilities and add enchantment to Mayank and Shilpa Aunty's relationship. I remember when he subtlety refers to this when he talks to Bauiji at the hospital, about losing a close one...I actually felt nervous, worried that he would 'reveal' too much.

I guess it depends how they use this 'locked' treasure. The keys are in the hands of thieves who are thankfully searching for a lock smith and not prying open the lid with a crowbar.

I am more interested in how Mayank sees his role as 'man' of the house to Shilpa Aunty. I always imagined future scenes where the issue of her own happiness and companionship would arise. I know this might be very controversial, please feel free to slap me in the face, but I had thoughts were Nupur's heart understands, sees something Mayank's mind would never let his heart even glance upon. The thought that after he leaves, shouldn't Shilpa Aunty too find love. However I also see that Shilpa Aunty's grateful heart is too full and overflowing already, I doubt she even notes a need for such 'frivolity'.

Maybe Mayank's loss could be replaced with the love that grandchildren bring...of course much further down the line.

Sorry, just singing out aloud despite being tone deaf! I really should have more consideration but when the melody grabs my attention I am pulled towards it magic and quite forget myself, my limits and sense!

Love Sabah




well even me interested in seeing him in that role 'man of the house'...mystery factor is fine..but small bits like Nupur's mom as a subject never came into view much only thrice if my memory runs fine...first when she meets Aunty on the Diwali night , second on her wedding day over the wedding dress she wore and third when she talked to G about their mom's love for cinema/acting..
similarly i could love some talk ...small talk about his father....may be about some trait he must have picked up from his Dad...
it could have been interesting...seeing if they could get some story line moving for Aunty...

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