Mahakumbh 37-40: A triangle of an unusual kind: Episodes 42/43 on p.9 - Page 4

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thanks for the post and hope your knee gets better soon.

So she snubs Shivanand at every opportunity, in private before Rudra, or in public. At the Brahma Nisht Panth punarsthapana, she makes a cutting reference to Kuchh log amaratva ki baat karte hain.. going on to decry such self-centred swaarth and to set out her own take on amaratva achieved by sanskaars being passed on thru santati, and thru bhakti & seva. To crown it all, she calls on Rudra to blow the sacred conch, pointedly sidelining the natural choice, Shivanand. And though she does apply the tilak to Shiva's forehead, it did seem that when he bent to touch her feet, she did not bless him as she did Rudra and Sahadev immediately afterwards.

(This is what i hated the most in Daadi, how she was belittling her own son infront of so many people. So what if she is old enough, shouldnt she be the one to know where to talk about what? I didnt like this in her at all. I understand her POV but this was totally uncalled for)

Unfeeling mother: Worse, Daadi seems to presume that her son wants the amrit in order to achieve personal immortality. Paramaarthi banne se pehle nisswaarthi banna padta hai..Amrit hamara apna parivaar hai, amrit hamare Panth ki pratishtha hai.. Ek boond bacha hai, use chhod do. Usme Mahakumbh tal jayega! How can she believe that of her son if she at all knows him?

(and funnily enough she understands her Pota very well, by just looking at him, she understands his sadness and even lectures him about it. Wonder how she missed seeing what her son was going through. May be her son's eyes are not as expressive as her pota's 😆)

All this in front of Rudra. She tries to block any appeal by Shivanand to Rudra for his views, for she is not sure which way the cat will jump. But when Rudra sides with his Daadi, there is a smug smile of barely veiled triumph in her eyes, which seems to be saying Gotcha!

She does not even bother to ask Shivanand about how he had fared all these 24 years. (It doesn't matter to her, she feels the pain she had to go through, her pota had to go through were more deadly than what her son had to go through, for what her son did. I dont know, but somehow she comes across as a very narrow minded person so far.Her son shows utmost respect, she doesnt even show the motherly love he is entitled to. May be she does love him a lot, but its not visible so far. )

Stately presence: But I must say that Daadi has presence. She might be a blinkered, obstinate, uninformed ostrich, but she is a commanding one. Look at her swanning in and out of the DM's Ganga Project meeting, a tiny, fragile figure, but dominating the whole scene effortlessly. Watch her as she almost casually, but convincingly, brushes aside the timid objection raised re: Shri Santh Panth representation. Daadi, with her bright, speaking eyes, her ultra erect carriage, and her aura of unquestionable authority, is a natural scene stealer.

(Yes this i agree, she has presence and she makes people take notice of her when she is around)

Shivanand: These days, it is he who stays with me long past 8:30 pm. He is the prototype of a misunderstood prophet-cum dauntless warrior, ready to stake everything, including himself and his loved ones, for the greatest of all causes, to save the world and its inhabitants from the clutches of a murderously greedy and destructive cabal. He is the stuff of which legendary heroes are made, for all that he will be fitted into a supporting role here.

(I had enough of Rudra and his lost looks. I mean i dont get his love for Maya, i dont know it may be me, but i don't understand it at all. Shiva is the only reason for me to watch this show these days. He is the man with purpose. Even though his own are doubting his intentions, yet that doesn't deter him from going about it. Because he knows that what he is set to do, is for the greater good and he and his family are very petty things in front of what is at stake)

The perfect shishya: With his guru, Prof. APG Rao, Shivanand is the shreshtatam shishya. He is respectful in the extreme - Shishya ko dekh kar koyi utha nahin karta, shishya guru ke charanon mein jhukta hai - but in the most natural manner possible. Eager to be told what has happened - Aapki tayyaari kaise chal rahi hai? Pata hai ki aap mission ke silsile mein hi yahan aaye hain(but how? There are many things about Shivanand that we still do not know of, including his line of communication to Prof. Rao, who has somehow called on him for his help), kisi na kisi nateeje par pahunche honge! Eager to learn what he has to do to fulfil his guru's mission and his own.

( I am glad, my guess came out true. I guessed they are in together in research, at least thats what it seems like so far)

What is Rudra for Shivanand?:

Shiva has not given up on Rudra because he ditched him for Daadi and spouted half-baked justifications. This is not just because he cannot afford to do so. It is rather because his pride in his son is immense - see how his eyes light up when he speaks of him to his guru! - and he is confident that soon, very soon, Rudra will see the light and awaken to his unique responsibilities, because he has to, it is in his niyati evam prarabdha. For Shivanand too is a man of deep, if unostentatious faith, a faith which is all the stronger for having been tested on the touchstone of science and found to be sound.

(I agree with you. He is both for Shivanand and I doubt if the love Shiva has for his son wouldve been any less if Rudra was not the garud. It just so happened that his son is a garud and he needs him for the purpose of both their lives, saving amrit. I agree with rest of your comments. I always liked Charles and I doubt if Katherine is indeed a garud. She lacks the inherent goodness thats a trait found in all the garuds so far.)

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Shruthi, Could you elaborate on the important point please? Perhaps Snape's objective is personal and Shiva's for a social cause. But I admire the courage and steadfastness of both the men.

Thank you so much, my dear Swetha It is very clear here, and excellent for comparison purposes.

Shyamala Do

Originally posted by: -Swetha-

Di... 😊

Here are some of the Close-up Pics i could find of Rudra's Garuda Chin as requested by u.. 😃

Thanks a lot, Santhi

Aha, see what I have been missing because I edit out the recap in my hard drive recording before watching it, along with the ads! I must retain the recap from tonight, seeing that this is where the emotional and mental gaps are apparently going to be filled in!

But many others may be like me, skipping it thinking it is just a summary of the previous episode. But Mahakumbh is hatke with a vengeance, so a recap is not a recap but a soliloquy, and a precap is not a precap, but a sneak peek at what is to happen 8 days later!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

An innovative way of showing rudra's manasthiti!

He talks about Maya humain chor ke chali gayi...that's quite telling.

Thanks, Yuri.

As I have tried to explain in this post, I do not think Maya is a garuda at all. Katharine, after last night's revelations, is currently anti-garuda, very likely because she does not yet know that she herself is a garuda. As and when she learns about this and the Mission Amrit of the garudas, she will have to change course and join them. But she is unlikely to have any emotional weakness in her.

As for the 2 emotionally weak garudas, one is clearly Rudra himself. I do not know who will be the other one.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: yurimehta11

nice analysis as usual thanks for pm One thing came in my mind at starting of show there is a sentence by Gearson Do garud bahut kamjor honge jinhe hum apne vash mai kar sakte hai so I think Catherine is one of weak Garud and joined hand with Gearson but who is another one . Maya being a Garud, Is it possible? As she is not that strong physically

My dear Bash,

You pep me up whenever I see your id! I am glad you had fun during the Chinese (and Tibetan) New Year of the Wood Sheep/Goat. The Tibetans and the Bhutanese celebrate it as Losar. And the festival is invariably very colourful.

I am glad too that you are enjoying the endless discussions and arguments here about our unusual triangle! I also find it all great fun, and besides, it takes my mind off my aching knee. Yes, I hope to not just walk 4 kms daily but also to dance a jig for sheer joy and relief once I am really ok. Right now, I seem to have forgotten how if feels to walk normally; we take too much for granted, and then niyati teaches us a good,sharp lesson!

I am sure you are perfect daughter, even if you mom is, like Daadi here, fixated on your son. But apni daadi is something else again. She generally regards her son as if he was something the cat had brought in, and fixes him with a basilisk glare when he asks about his son's friends. I would not have wanted such a mother at all, for all her sanatana dharma credentials. Give me Maimuyi any day!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: berrysweet

Hello ! Hello! and Hello!

I am guilty of liking your post even before I had read it. Whats to say ? Except that when I see your name I know its gonna be exceptional!!!!

Its the Lunar New Year here, being celebrated with a bang , a loud one too . We' ve been been busy greeting and visiting our Chinese friends. But now, I am free... I have happily sat down to read your post and had a wonderful time reading it and all the replies you have had. I loved every ones say, opinion arguments and defense. I swear, it is most entertaining . Forget the Oscars going on... this is more interesting.

So thank you all. I enjoy this serial only because , you make it all seem so intricate... but, intricate it IS. I NEED your brilliant deciphering

Love the grandma and the dad most . They have such an air about them . Almost tangible. !!! Actually Grandmas and grandpas are just like that. They adore their grand kids way more than their very own. Tell me about this... My mum could see no wrong in my impossible son and see no right in me, the perfect daughter!!

Until next week then. Knee replacement will do wonders and lead you to a 2km walk i hope .😉 and yes , I too hope that India will do well again

Love Bash

Thanks a lot for your concern, my dear Sri. Fingers crossed, tight enough to qualify for a pretzel contest, that my knee replacement goes well come May. And I am profoundly grateful to the Almighty that this problem did not come up a decade earlier. A limping Ambassador would not have been an appealing sight!😉 But now I feel that those years were when this was building up.

Obstinate old ladies, yes, A mother who looks at her son as if he is something the cat brought it, and fixes him with a basilisk glare when he enquires after his son's friends, is something else again. And her son still touches her feet twice in 2 minutes!

Shyamala Akka

Originally posted by: jayaks02

Looks like there is one obstinate dadi in this serial, who is very opinionated. Dadis are only nightmarish and a very strong one is all the more so 😃

Just Kidding - I like obstinate dadis. They really make things work their way. It is needed at times in a complete man's world like this.

Did not follow much of other nuances as I have not come on board at all - But that is not important at all.

Please do take good care of your knees and good luck Akka.

PS: Knees start giving problems much earlier for ladies, but being focused on multiple things many ignore and it goes to next level.

You know, Shruthi, I would want that as well. Especially after seeing the way she treated Shivanand last night, looking at him as if he was something the cat had brought in, and glaring at him with evident distaste and openly voiced suspicion. Even when she gives him the prasad, she does not forget to all Ishwar tumhein sadbuddhi de, and the accompanying look makes it clear that she does not expect this to happen!

But we should not get our hopes up. I was exasperated to see Shivanand doing paanv padna to Daadi not just once but twice within 5 minutes. I was expecting him to do it a third time for the laddoo, but thankfully he did not!😉

Now, I do not think the writers, or her son and pota, are going to let her fall with a satisfactory thud. Matrubhakti is a tenacious thing!

They will all be singing hosannas to her and she will be swanning around, pretending that she was never wrong about anything, even in Episode 120, mark my words!

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Shymaladi in one word dadi is " Master of the game" in literal sense the way Sidney Sheldon has written the lead character of his famous book by the same name.

This lady cannot be broken easily. Someone has to stand upto her. Cut through her manipulation in the most defiant fashion with the same deception she uses. And as you rightly said I want to see that defeat of hers. I mean as a viewer I guess all of us are entitled to get that feeling. One episode complete I want to be dedicated for that. That fall. And fall is the most painful when it is from the height of power. I want destiny to take her to that point and then " Thud" . I will be 👏👏👏 in that moment.

Thank you so much, my dear, it is such a pleasure to hear from you! These posts of mine, and all the fascinating exchanges we have about various aspects of the show, are great fun, and keep my mind off my painful knee too!

Yes, it is an unusual show, and it does keep us on our toes. Fingers crossed for it too stay that way till the end!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: apple64

reading ur take on the awesome serial is like "Sone pe Suhaga"... thanks for all the efforts.

eagerly awaiting for this weeks shows.. the show keeps you wanting and asking for more