Mahakumbh 37-40: A triangle of an unusual kind: Episodes 42/43 on p.9 - Page 3

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Santhi,

Thank you so much for liking this one.

Of course we will have our differences! That is why I put in that disclaimer at the beginning of this post about other takes on the triangle.

My supplementary comments are in blue.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa



Shyamala ji,

Great take as usual. But I do differ on few characters.

Dadi-- She is sakt but she has some ground on which she based her anger towards Shiva. Loss of family, panth and everything can do that. Also, she asked Shiva to stop all this(very gently) but he went on.

What baffles is that she took it to the other extreme where she is rubbing it on him in front of Rudra. But like Arshi said, people do behave like that when they are used to control things and they do not stay under control.

Not just that, Santhi. She is very aloof and cold even when she sees him for the first time after 24 years. And she does not ask him even once how he had fared during this period,and what had happened to him. One's children, especially when they are sons, often do not listen to their parents. But that does not mean that one distances oneself from them emotionally. I simply could not understand her behaviour.

Plus, she assumes the worst about Shiva, then and now, without allowing him to get a word in edgeways. I have discussed this too in this post, and will not repeat myself here.


Rudra-- Rudra is going through multiple emotions and thought processes. The person who came to Prayag to find answers to Maimui and Udiya Baba's murders came into contact with his past. Initially, he was full of anger and vengeance. Then, he found his dadi and then baba. Anger n vengeance gave room to happiness and a sense of belonging. But he also came to know about the Srisanth panth and their atrocities. Again more anger and vengeance. Then came Maya's confession and knowledge of how she was manipulated. Room for sadness.

More than anything else, the knowledge of him being a Garuda and having to play a huge role in the Mahakumbh is what is shocking for him.

Rudra's thoughts are best captured in re-caps where he says 'ye hua, wo hua, phir ye hua aur phir wo hua'. mujhe sri santh Brahma Nisht panth ko punah-staapith karna hai, dadi aur baba ke beech ki dooriyan(i dont remember if he uses the words 'duur karna hai') etc. Uske saath bahut kuch 'ho raha hai'. And he has absolutely no control. He is just being swept away by the happenings. Except for a short period of control where he tried to understand Sri-santh panth and Maya and acted nice.

Where was this shown, Santhi? In one of the promos shown during the ad breaks? I seem to have missed it. It sounds like a good promo, an effort to summarise Rudra's main problem. But then, he has to try and hold on to something and try to orient himself. Thappadiya Mai or Shivanand could be good choices of supports for this purpose. But he seems content to mope about aimlessly and complain about the khalipan within him.

Its natural for anyone to get lost or go blank about the future in these circumstances. Its like a stick being subjected to alternate compression and tension. He needs time to process this. Let him at least make a start with it, Santhi!

I gave a long rope to Rudra for siding with dadi because they day before he laments that 'dadi ne abhi tak baba ko maaf nahi kiya'. He knows his baba is right but he knows dadi needs to be reigned in slowly.

I doubt it anyone can rein this Daadi in, slowly or otherwise. She will interpret everything that goes wrong with them and their Panth to Shivanand having called the wrath of the gods down upon them with his research into divine blessings.šŸ˜‰ It will be chit I win and pat you lose!


I can see that you intend to cut Rudra a lot of slack. So be it! I do feel quite so accommodating, but I do hope he starts moving in the right direction very soon, and not at 11:59 when the 'Veshes and the nagas are literally at his doorstep.šŸ˜‰

In fact, as the Mahakumbh 2013 lasted for only 55 days, and we must be already around Day 12, there is not too much time for the garudas to dawdle around!


Rudra-Maya --- Rudra has a soft corner for Maya from the beginning. He counted her as a friend and trusted her so much that he came with her to Prayag. Then doubted her. And those doubts turned false. And Maya's heart-felt confession and her departure brought a vacuum and pain. I think it doesn't have to be love at this point but its natural that you feel the importance of someone after they leave you. And you are left trying to understand the pain of separation.

Shivanand-- Shivanand is cool guy. I agree fully with you on this. He has that serene smile that I love. My favorite character of the show. He knows Rudra looks up to him and is with him though he took dadi's side. Proved when Rudra looks at him for advice when dadi nominates him to carry the panth forward. He silently advices him to give it back to her. Or that's what I understood.

You were correct in your interpretation - he gives an almost imperceptible nod of assent to Rudra- and that is exactly what I had noted in this post as well, in the section about Shivanand. He is the most impressive of them all as of now.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Swetha,

Thank you so much for liking this post, and even more so for this very convenient and useful collection of all the garuda chinnas revealed so far. I am not technically competent enough to do this kind of thing - you are so clever at it šŸ‘ - and it always delights me to see such a neat set of photos! I noted your post on the other thread as well, but I am glad you put it up here too, for I can access them more easily on my own threads. Thanks again.

If you can send me a close up shot of Rudra's chinna, showing only that, it would be very handy. Do try, my dear.

Yes, it seems to be an inevitable conclusion that last 2 chinnas will have to be on the leg(s) and ankle(s). It is really imaginative of the writers to have cooked up this extra bit of symbolism,

Shyamala Di

Di... 😊

Here are some of the Close-up Pics i could find of Rudra's Garuda Chin as requested by u.. 😃


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shymaladi in one word dadi is " Master of the game" in literal sense the way Sidney Sheldon has written the lead character of his famous book by the same name.
This lady cannot be broken easily. Someone has to stand upto her. Cut through her manipulation in the most defiant fashion with the same deception she uses. And as you rightly said I want to see that defeat of hers. I mean as a viewer I guess all of us are entitled to get that feeling. One episode complete I want to be dedicated for that. That fall. And fall is the most painful when it is from the height of power. I want destiny to take her to that point and then " Thud" . I will be šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ in that moment.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shyamala ji,
Recaps are at the beginning of the episode(for 30 sec) in Rudra's voice.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Shyamala ji,

Recaps are at the beginning of the episode(for 30 sec) in Rudra's voice.


An innovative way of showing rudra's manasthiti!

He talks about Maya humain chor ke chali gayi...that's quite telling.
Edited by Arshics - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Shiva has a strong focus I am not at all denying it. He is a master strategist, steely, direct and has no ulterior motive. It is just that he has faltered somewhere and has a very important lesson to learn. Believe me the person Shiva is he will accept that lesson because he is telling I am not able to see 7th Garud, maybe Rudra will be able to see. So he is receptive whether knowledge comes from youngster or elder if he is proven wrong. That is a gem of a quality he has which our dadi simply does not have


Perhaps he has faltered. I never expect him or any one to be perfect. (It only increases his resemblance to Snape. Snape too did by revealing the contents of prophecy to Voldemort) All of us make mistakes. It is how we rectify them or accept them or make up for them that shows what we are made of.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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nice analysis as usual thanks for pm One thing came in my mind at starting of show there is a sentence by Gearson Do garud bahut kamjor honge jinhe hum apne vash mai kar sakte hai so I think Catherine is one of weak Garud and joined hand with Gearson but who is another one . Maya being a Garud, Is it possible? As she is not that strong physically
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello ! Hello! and Hello!
I am guilty of liking your post even before I had read it. Whats to say ? Except that when I see your name I know its gonna be exceptional!!!!

Its the Lunar New Year here, being celebrated with a bang , a loud one too . We' ve been been busy greeting and visiting our Chinese friends. But now, I am free... I have happily sat down to read your post and had a wonderful time reading it and all the replies you have had. I loved every ones say, opinion arguments and defense. I swear, it is most entertaining . Forget the Oscars going on... this is more interesting.

So thank you all. I enjoy this serial only because , you make it all seem so intricate... but, intricate it IS. I NEED your brilliant deciphering

Love the grandma and the dad most . They have such an air about them . Almost tangible. !!! Actually Grandmas and grandpas are just like that. They adore their grand kids way more than their very own. Tell me about this... My mum could see no wrong in my impossible son and see no right in me, the perfect daughter!!

Until next week then. Knee replacement will do wonders and lead you to a 2km walk i hope .šŸ˜‰ and yes , I too hope that India will do well again

Love Bash

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Looks like there is one obstinate dadi in this serial, who is very opinionated. Dadis are only nightmarish and a very strong one is all the more so 😃
Just Kidding - I like obstinate dadis. They really make things work their way. It is needed at times in a complete man's world like this.
Did not follow much of other nuances as I have not come on board at all - But that is not important at all.
Please do take good care of your knees and good luck Akka.
PS: Knees start giving problems much earlier for ladies, but being focused on multiple things many ignore and it goes to next level.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: berrysweet


Its the Lunar New Year here, being celebrated with a bang , a loud one too . We' ve been been busy greeting and visiting our Chinese friends.


Berry Sweet from Malaysia???

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