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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JustMySelf

all those niyog n etc etc that they mention isnt it like surrogacy or test tube babies type?so if in that age ppl were open to surrogacy type then y kunti felt ashamed to disclose herself as single mother?infact kunti selecting d gods 2 gv birth to d wishful sons hints of selective dna designer babies so that was like modern science yet kunti cdnt admit n accept karna back?😲

Actually ..it was accepted after marriage in that yug..probably because kunti wasnt married and that was stigma thus
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JustMySelf

all those niyog n etc etc that they mention isnt it like surrogacy or test tube babies type?so if in that age ppl were open to surrogacy type then y kunti felt ashamed to disclose herself as single mother?infact kunti selecting d gods 2 gv birth to d wishful sons hints of selective dna designer babies so that was like modern science yet kunti cdnt admit n accept karna back?😲

That is y the society was extremely hypocritical.
Men could marry many times PROUDLY, but if a woman married many times, she was called a prostitute.
And there are people who give citations from Shatras to justify that. 😡
Then Caste System was another unfair system.
It was not the fault of individual characters, but the society as a whole, and all those law-makers of the society.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

Exactly. I don't know y Vastraharan is questioned. Coz, this is one incident, that happens almost in every translation.

(Based on what I read in random blog)

Actually Vyas written was a poem not story/novel and was quite small. One of the student of Vyas, Vaisampayana extend the story 10 times more.

Also people 200 year ago are quite versed in Sanskrit and can manipulate the original slok. Much time before Vaisnaiv (devotee of Vishnu) and Shivasim (devotee of shiva) had quarrel for their god supremacy. When Lord Shiva devotee consider him as 1st being in shiva puran then Lord Vishnu devotee take BG and called Krishna as the 1st being. So it is possible that Saving Draupadi was glorify by Vaisnaiv.

Even the most ancient text for MB can be challenged

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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: AnuMP



Surrogacy and single motherhood would be diff, no? Yeah Karna had great injustice done to him, but I can see where Kunti is coming from.


umm if am nt mistaken surrogacy is done when either parent fails so either d sperm or d egg is donated or a womb is rented if both parents r ok bt d mother is unable to hold d baby in d womb 😕..i cd b wrong am nt sure tho 😳
n single motherhood i guess is like u dnt reveal d man who fahers d child 😕..sorry i cd b wrong in my perceptions 😳😭

so kunti cd hv just told luk karna is my son n stop warring over a throne 🤢
n how can gandhari hv 100 sons?i hv heard of triplets bt humans r nt like hen or duck that they cd hv hd small stones like eggs hatching every day..😕
so strange 😕


also i feel kunti ws d woman of that era who suffered most..nt draupadi..coz luk at her history..hd to give up her son..then gt married..pandu brot another wifey 😡..then pandu died..nw she had to luk aftr 5 kids..i must say she was awesum else nakul n sahadev were nt her gods given gifts bt given to madri yet she brot them up all so well that thr ws unity between d bros..then to c her son karna dying b4 her..she suffered most..ok i know VH very bad..awful bt still kunti gt no peace 4m hubby n neither 4m children nah?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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i was 2yrs or so when BRC happened!!!
and thanks to some boys in my class for bullying me about my name!!
i demanded my mother the full Mb story!! poor her took almost a long 2-3 months to tell me!!
since then its my Fascination!!! Panchali and Govind is my main reason for fascination!! their bond!! n the devotion she had for him!!

the fascination continues to the story of 100 bros n Karna's Birth, Panchali's birth from fire and of course the Vh and geetha gyaan!!!
something that always reminds ppl that hold on more tightly to God in your worse times!!!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neutral2

Actually Vyas written was a poem not story/novel and was quite small. One of the student of Vyas, Vaisampayana extend the story 10 times more.

Also people 200 year ago are quite versed in Sanskrit and can manipulate the original slok. Much time before Vaisnaiv (devotee of Vishnu) and Shivasim (devotee of shiva) had quarrel for their god supremacy. When Lord Shiva devotee consider him as 1st being in shiva puran then Lord Vishnu devotee take BG and called Krishna as the 1st being. So it is possible that Saving Draupadi was glorify by Vaisnaiv.

Even the most ancient text for MB can be challenged

So, it is "how she was saved" that has been modified...
But her Vastraharan probably happened.
It is true that the text has been modified many, many times. But it is difficult to say which parts are real and which are interpolated.
Anyway, I believe that the Lord saved. But it's completely my belief.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

That is y the society was extremely hypocritical.
Men could marry many times PROUDLY, but if a woman married many times, she was called a prostitute.
And there are people who give citations from Shatras to justify that. 😡
Then Caste System was another unfair system.
It was not the fault of individual characters, but the society as a whole, and all those law-makers of the society.


my dad tells that those time population was less so if they didnt force a caste system then like nw a farmers son wd hv bcum a doc n who wd hv dun farming then?d kings surely wdnt do farming so to keep ppl away 4m progressing d caste system was introduced..dad says hw hypocrites ppl r at times they bliv in god bt then they dnt follow that god tells all r equal thr is no caste b4 him..evn nw we need a pandit to do d puja 4 us y?bcoz we feel god wnt listen to us bt only d brahmin pandits?d pandits made d ppl bliv that they r d only ones whom god responds bt nt d commoners ..hw dam wrong is that?pandit ji doing puja of god n telling god wd only listen to us if we pay him d dakshina am i to bliv god discriminates??😲😆

i agree with u totally..d society is full of hypocrites..🤢
ppl who rules n has right to frame laws alwaz designs loopholes too n women r alwaz questioned blamed n men just dnt need to give reasons 😡
in d name of religion vested interest still fools d commoners 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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anways it was nice talking to u all full day..i learnt a lot thank u every1 🤗
btw TM see we made ur post super hit ⭐️..pat our back
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JustMySelf

umm if am nt mistaken surrogacy is done when either parent fails so either d sperm or d egg is donated or a womb is rented if both parents r ok bt d mother is unable to hold d baby in d womb 😕..i cd b wrong am nt sure tho 😳
n single motherhood i guess is like u dnt reveal d man who fahers d child 😕..sorry i cd b wrong in my perceptions 😳😭

so kunti cd hv just told luk karna is my son n stop warring over a throne 🤢
n how can gandhari hv 100 sons?i hv heard of triplets bt humans r nt like hen or duck that they cd hv hd small stones like eggs hatching every day..😕
so strange 😕


also i feel kunti ws d woman of that era who suffered most..nt draupadi..coz luk at her history..hd to give up her son..then gt married..pandu brot another wifey 😡..then pandu died..nw she had to luk aftr 5 kids..i must say she was awesum else nakul n sahadev were nt her gods given gifts bt given to madri yet she brot them up all so well that thr ws unity between d bros..then to c her son karna dying b4 her..she suffered most..ok i know VH very bad..awful bt still kunti gt no peace 4m hubby n neither 4m children nah?


I don't know how Karna;s truth would have stopped the war.
And Gandhari's sons were born through invitro fertilization. Yes, this concept was that old.
And yes, Kunti suffered a lot in her life. I don't know y some people overlook Kunti's pain, just bcoz she made one mistake of abandoning her child.
She lost her husband, at a young age, had to take care of 5 children alone, one of whom was the potential heir to the throne, had the burden of abandoning a child in her heart...
Her life was indeed full of pain. However, she was not as innocent as she has been shown in this serial. She was a very shrewd woman in the epic.
However, I feel Draupadi suffered more.
Even if she wasn't disrobed, she was staked and dragged by her hair for sure, in a single piece of stained cloth, while she was in her season. Being assaulted like this, by her brother-in-law...It was just horrible.
And Draupadi too got no peace from her husbands, as all of them married many times, which is not shown in the serial, one staked her, and the others watched her getting disrobed silently. Even later when she was molested by Keechak, Yudisthir said "Endure it." Keechak kicked Draupadi in front of Yudisthir, and Yudisthir was like "Bear it. We have to maintain our anonymity."
All this has not been shown in this serial to whitewash the Pandavas. Only Bhima saved her in the epic. Arjun was not even aware of her plight.
And Draupadi lost ALL her children.
So, Kunti did have a very difficult life, but Draupadi's life was far worse, in my opinion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Of course Draupadi suffered more. But there are only a few people in this world capable of as much depth as Panchali was and sometimes it takes suffering to break down that floor if you will and discover yourself. She was brought to a point where she had nothing left to fight for. And let me quote from one of my fav books, 'Nothing left to fight for is nothing left to lose'. Then she fought, and how! 👏

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