Karna: Does He Deserve So Much Respect??[DT Note Page 15] - Page 21

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

What is so big deal of killing nagas ?

May be i am biased as i dont like snakes..😆

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

What is so big deal of killing nagas ? How is it so different from genocide of asuras ?

Arjuna killed many asuras while he was in heaven caused their genocide too. They had not personally harmed him..

May be i am biased as i dont like snakes..😆

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

He is very generous and yet enjoys to see Pandavas' plight, savours their misery. He has a great heart yet wishes to insult and mentally torture aggrieved pandavas who are now ashamed of their deeds after vh and are living quietly in exile.

He is very happy when dury sends durvaasa to pandavas to add to their woes. The citation says him to be overjoyed in this situation. He is a noble person yet takes pleasure in this subterfuge and expects pandavas to be cursed by irascible durvaasa. Why ...

I think he knows that Krishna is supreme lord, he also acknowledges that yudhi is better ruler so obviously he is spiritually highly evolved person yet displays narrowmindedness at times..

Originally posted by: varaali

There is one another character in the Mahabharata whose life mirrors that of Karna. The circumstances which were forced upon Karna were similar to what this character too had to face.

This person too, though born to a mother of royal lineage had to be abandoned by his birth parents. Nevertheless, his adopted parents showered love and affection on him.

Again, in striking similarity to Karna's life, this boy too did not get the martial education that a kshatriya prince deserved. He spent his childhood in a village amidst rural people, animals and trees.

He was able to obtain a kshatriya-worthy education only when he was sixteen years old.

His guru was not the best in Aryavarta, yet he acknowledged his Guru's efforts and offered the best dakshina his guru could have wished for. By his own perseverance he went on to become the greatest warrior of his times. He did not resort to telling bare faced lies to his guru.

This person too, at the time of his wife's swayamvar was derided by her brother because he had been brought up parents who belonged to a lower caste. He let his deeds to the talking.

Though he was a champion warrior, when the greatest battle was about to be fought, he had no qualms in dropping his bow and picking up the reins of a chariot. He willingly took up the charioteering job from which Karna so desperately wanted to avoid.

Why don't I see anyone feeling "sorry" for this guy?

BTW- I am talking about Krishna - Lord Krishna, Btw.

Originally posted by: riti4u

@smrth- when did i say he showed any remorse..😳..anyways since you pointed.. will get back to you on that🤓 it requires me to read through with my interpretation of citations 😳... right now I posted his remorse on his conduct with pandavas...please check... I do have some citations😃...(credit to Sabhyata)😳

Originally posted by: riti4u

There is one another character in the Mahabharata whose life mirrors that of Karna. The circumstances which were forced upon Karna were similar to what this character too had to face.

This person too, though born to a mother of royal lineage had to be abandoned by his birth parents. Nevertheless, his adopted parents showered love and affection on him.

Again, in striking similarity to Karna's life, this boy too did not get the martial education that a kshatriya prince deserved. He was able to obtain such an education only when he was sixteen years old.

His guru was not the best in Aryavarta, yet he acknowledged his Guru's efforts and offered the best dakshina his guru could have wished for. By his own perseverance he went on to become the greatest warrior of his times. He did not resort to telling bare faced lies to his guru.

This person too, at the time of his wife's swayamvar was derided by her brother because he had been brought up parents who belonged to a lower caste. He let his deeds to the talking.

Though he was a champion warrior, when the greatest battle was about to be fought, he had no qualms in dropping his bow and picking up the reins of a chariot. He willingly took up the charioteering job from which Karna so desperately wanted to avoid.

Why don't I see anyone feeling "sorry" for this guy?

BTW- I am talking about Krishna - Lord Krishna, Btw.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

because pandavas were his enemies sworn enemies of course he will be happy when they are not doing well

the same goes for pandavs would they be sad to see karna's plight?I dont think so and why should they be he was their enemy.Weren't panadavs overjoyed when they came to know about karna's KK daan.Of course they were

Panadavs and karna had been enemies for long so certainly when your enemy is not doing well you will be happy

Regarding his narrow mindedness at times yes definitely there were times when he was wrong when he gave into emotions like jealousy and bitterness and acted out of it.That is why he isnt a perfect hero.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

well now that karna and krishna ji's circumstances are being compared i want to know

How many years did krishna ji spent not knowing his true idnetity and how many years did karna spent not knowing his real identity

how many years did krishna ji spent as a son of a cowherd and how many years did karna spend as a son of a suta

There is a lot of difference in their circumstances

not to mention we are comparing god to human

Originally posted by: riti4u

Quotation you provided -

1.First bold sentence of yours -please read carefully it talks about duryodhana Accompanied by all these he set out with a heavy heart.

2.Second bold line again generalises and not talk of Karna alone...

3. I dont think Karna would address Dritrashtra as father...😊