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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MercuryVenus

Actually breaking a marriage is not so easy for anyone be it man or wife in our larger Indian society. Its always easier said than done not because you are married or unmarried. Its all about not being in a particular situation or not experiencing that particular situation in life. Even married women or men wont understand the plight unless they themselves go through it. Showing resilience to adversities and fighting for the dignity by staying firm and not running away is what makes Indian women more strong. I personally believe in fighting with the situation and not running away from it. Unless you are sure and confirmed that you have dried up all your options of saving your marriage, you shouldn't stop your efforts.


I especially like your point: Even married women or men wont understand the plight unless they themselves go through it.

That makes a lot of sense. You cannot understand the situation unless you are going through it yourself.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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SOMETIMES ONE HAS TO FIGHT FOR THINGS WHICH ARE WORTH AND NOT GIVE IN - EVEN SELF RESPECT TAKES A BEATING
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4ever4love


"However, imperfections r ok not verbal abuse, physical abuse and insulting each other at all times"

Point made! 👏

what is your opinion on madhu slapping rk then? Isnt tht physical abuse? Wasnt he subjected to verbal abuse a lot of times while the wife quietly took the humiliations towards her husband with a smile?
I will def. Comment and share my views , as i'm married and this is quite an interesting topic.but for tht, someone needs to put up a balanced perspective of the entire situation till now..
what all rk did for madhu..
what madhu did for rk
their past
their characteristics
in short. Why do they love each other.
you will then know why madhu is trying to save this marriage..u dun have to be married to understand this, you have to be in love to understand this..
@betterrose, loved ur reply..thx..shruti, mamatha, swan, wonderful replies.
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: 4ever4love


Brilliant! I feel the same as you. A few other posts have made me look at the matter differently bit you have brought up excellent points.

Yes this is a drama and we should expect the extreme actions. But I truly hope that RK stops raising his hand against Madhu (I have not seen today's episode yet).

For me the two things that would make me lose all hope and would make me DESPISE RK are if he hits her or her cheats on her.

I am tired of the humiliation too but the above two points are my deal breakers.


I agree with this viewpoint. I've read this thread, I agree with others too, that said you work at a relationship, give it your best shot because you don't want to keep thinking back did I give up on it too soon, did I do everything possible to make sure we were together... until you reach that breaking point, here you've pointed out what your limit would be physical violence and actual committing adultery and I have to say for me too I wouldn't like Madhu to carry on working on a relationship after these two things.


With regards to other people mentioning physical abuse Madhu gave to RK when she slaps him, I just think it's ludicrous 😆 A woman's physical strength does not leave any black eyes, if he looks at himself in the mirror he won't see any lasting effect but a woman when beaten up you look at yourself you've got a split lip, black eye, that is the lasting imprint of a man hitting a woman. That's why in any relationship a man and a woman should rather talk, what's on your mind make the other person realise how you felt when they said such and such to you, so communication is key, you may curse at each other in the heat of the moment but better to sleep on it and come back with the right words rather then speak in that moment when you are angry and you resort to abusive words, Madhu is good here I can't recall her abusing RK, and definitely she has never smiled when people abuse her husband verbally, with Mehul Chopra when he started she immediately stopped him saying that, the reporters the same thing she defends her man always..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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No.. Any woman won't tolerate this crap.. But RK has made it clear that their is nothing romantic between him n that psycho bitch..And she knows that he only loves her.. Else he won't be upset about her presence in a place where he was dancing with that bitch. Then his genuine intent of spending time with her on her birthday.. Madhu knows he is not unfaithful..
RK was completely wrong in spending time with Ria.. But he clearly stated that she is not more important than his wife but her company gives him solace..
So madhu did the right thing by making him realize how it feels.. A relationship will never survive if both people stop working on it.. She waited for RK to turn around, and once he started working on their relationship, she made her hurt and pain obvious to him.

This way she saved her relationship and also made RK realize his mistakes.. If she was convinced that RK had an emotional or physical connect with Ria, her leaving him would be the most dignified thing.. But as long as he is not cheating on her, it's not a good idea to give up on relationships.. And she should have left him, when he accused her of that abortion.. Not for a mistake, he hasn't even committed




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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice! So as long as there are no red or black marks, it doesnt qualify as physical abuse . So when rk handcuffed madhu with the bed, tht was not abuse either bec madhu wasnt hurt..and in future if rk raises his hand on madhu and she's not hurt, or there arent any marks of abuse, it's okay b/w husband wife..
I beg to disagree, slapping, whether a husband does it or wife, is humiliating. Hitting a handicap person is equally preposterous no matter how big his mistake was..
show me one man who doesnt react to the slaps of his wife..i'm not arguing on right and wrong here..both deserve each other..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: punam2712

SOMETIMES ONE HAS TO FIGHT FOR THINGS WHICH ARE WORTH AND NOT GIVE IN - EVEN SELF RESPECT TAKES A BEATING


I think that is one of the main reasons that viewers are not liking this story line because - again - it is Madhu's self respect that is taking a beating AND BY EVERYONE!!! Now even 'the other woman" has started putting Madhu down.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

what is your opinion on madhu slapping rk then? Isnt tht physical abuse? Wasnt he subjected to verbal abuse a lot of times while the wife quietly took the humiliations towards her husband with a smile?
I will def. Comment and share my views , as i'm married and this is quite an interesting topic.but for tht, someone needs to put up a balanced perspective of the entire situation till now..
what all rk did for madhu..
what madhu did for rk
their past
their characteristics
in short. Why do they love each other.
you will then know why madhu is trying to save this marriage..u dun have to be married to understand this, you have to be in love to understand this..
@betterrose, loved ur reply..thx..shruti, mamatha, swan, wonderful replies.


I am going to make a comment on your line: "what is your opinion on madhu slapping rk then? Isnt tht physical abuse?"

No the two matters are completely different for me. Madhu never slapped Rk to control him. Let's look at some of those slaps.

Honestly, I should be able to remember them all but let's go with the famous 4 slaps, the slap for when RK spoke about abortion ... I know there were more ...

Ok and let's look at the two times that RK has raised his hand.

RK's slaps were about control. He knows Madhu was right and his ego could not take it and he lashed out. First he was lashing out verbally and then he almost turned it to physical.

Madhu's slaps. Every single slap RK got was because he crossed a line. You do not tell a pregnant woman to get an abortion because the timing is not right. Hurt. Betrayal. You do not attack her father and then call to gloat. Her father was dying and you want to add to the pain? Those slaps were deserved.

Even in real life, if any one dared to insult my father, be it my brother, an elder or a boyfriend of mine, that person can go to hell. And if I needed to get physical, then God help the other person!

back to the slaps. RK has always wanted to control Madhu. He forced her to marry him. He humiliated her. He tried to break her. he broke her trust. But every time Madhu got back on her feet and RK could not stand this.

But as bad as RK has been, i NEVER imagined him raising his hand to hit Madhu. NEVER. The CV's should not have gone there. That was out of character. RK is manipulative but physical abuse??? CV's screwed up.

Sadly RK's loss of control showed an ugly side to him.

So ... back to my conclusion. Infidelity and physical abuse would be the end.

(I hope my post was clear. It has been a looong day!)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: .Nafisa.


I agree with this viewpoint. I've read this thread, I agree with others too, that said you work at a relationship, give it your best shot because you don't want to keep thinking back did I give up on it too soon, did I do everything possible to make sure we were together... until you reach that breaking point, here you've pointed out what your limit would be physical violence and actual committing adultery and I have to say for me too I wouldn't like Madhu to carry on working on a relationship after these two things.


With regards to other people mentioning physical abuse Madhu gave to RK when she slaps him, I just think it's ludicrous 😆 A woman's physical strength does not leave any black eyes, if he looks at himself in the mirror he won't see any lasting effect but a woman when beaten up you look at yourself you've got a split lip, black eye, that is the lasting imprint of a man hitting a woman. That's why in any relationship a man and a woman should rather talk, what's on your mind make the other person realise how you felt when they said such and such to you, so communication is key, you may curse at each other in the heat of the moment but better to sleep on it and come back with the right words rather then speak in that moment when you are angry and you resort to abusive words, Madhu is good here I can't recall her abusing RK, and definitely she has never smiled when people abuse her husband verbally, with Mehul Chopra when he started she immediately stopped him saying that, the reporters the same thing she defends her man always..



the part i bolded: well said!!!! 👏

Madhu's slaps hit RK's ego. But if RK was to slap Madhu ... then sadly he is no different than Balraj. I know that is a bold statement to make but what would be the difference? That RK would repent later? That he would feel bad? Too late.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21

No.. Any woman won't tolerate this crap.. But RK has made it clear that their is nothing romantic between him n that psycho bitch..And she knows that he only loves her.. Else he won't be upset about her presence in a place where he was dancing with that bitch. Then his genuine intent of spending time with her on her birthday.. Madhu knows he is not unfaithful..

RK was completely wrong in spending time with Ria.. But he clearly stated that she is not more important than his wife but her company gives him solace..
So madhu did the right thing by making him realize how it feels.. A relationship will never survive if both people stop working on it.. She waited for RK to turn around, and once he started working on their relationship, she made her hurt and pain obvious to him.

This way she saved her relationship and also made RK realize his mistakes.. If she was convinced that RK had an emotional or physical connect with Ria, her leaving him would be the most dignified thing.. But as long as he is not cheating on her, it's not a good idea to give up on relationships.. And she should have left him, when he accused her of that abortion.. Not for a mistake, he hasn't even committed


Your last paragraph: brilliant observation. You are right.

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